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    Could you guys help me cut up? I'm getting frustrated..

    Ok, so I started cutting in late december, after a bulking phase that lasted from July 04' - Dec 04'. During that time I was eating 4500 or so calories per day.

    Lemmie' give MY stats, and my problem:

    20 years old
    5' 10" , at about 175lbs.

    I have a great amount of strength for my size, but not HUGE bulging muscles.
    I've done ONE cycle of M1t, and am currently wrapping that up by doing a proper PCT.

    Anyway, I can't seem to get the fat off of my abs, and "love handles" that cover my lower obliques. How the hell can I cut this fat off? I'm REALLY lean in ALL areas BUT here. It looks dis-proportionate.

    Here's my workout schedule:

    Mon: Back & Bi's
    Tues: Chest & Tri's
    Wed: Legs
    Thurs: Shoulders & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
    Friday: Abs & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
    Every *other* Sat: Cardio, 1 hour.
    Sun: OFF

    How I've been eating:

    8:00am: bowl of cereal, and a Protein Shake ( 2 scoops of ON's).
    10:00am: A low-fat yogurt or a piece or two of fruit
    12:00pm: A sandwich w/ 100% whole grain wheat bread. Either Natural Peanut Butter, & strawberry jelly or a Tuna & Lettuce sandwich. Some fruit, a granola bar, and some veggies.

    2:30pm: A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

    3:00pm: Workout

    5:30pm A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

    6:30pm: Dinner: Usually, boneless / skinless chicken, some potatoes, veggies, or some form of "lighter" fish (halibut, etc). Or I'll do Egg-Sandwiches on wheat bread. If it's Red-Meat, it's LEAN, and in small quantities with small amounts of veggies on the side and maybe some fruit.


    In between those times given, I'm usually snacking on some nuts here & there, or some sort of either veggies (baby carrots) or fruit. I really like yogurt a lot, so sometimes I'll grab some yogurt. I've been using ONLY skim-milk, and skim-milk in my protein shakes.

    Is this still too many calories?

    I'm mostly an ecto-morph, so I'm "skinny" but not TONED in the mid-section. I have like 2 "rolls" to get rid of, and they look FUNNY because my abs are BIG under there . My mid-section feels firm, and I can see my top 4 abs in the morning, but they fade quickly throughout the day as I eat.

    I really don't want to resort to thermogenics, and I feel that I'm doing PLENTY of cardio. I don't want to eat-up my hard-earned biceps & back either.


    PLEASE help. I'm VERY willing to listen, as I'm getting frustrated with crappy results. None of my friends seem to help, as none of them understand that I'm ALWAYS hungry but can't for the life of me tone up my mid-section.

    Thanks in advance, and I look forward to hearing back from you guys.

    -Matt
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionNine
    Ok, so I started cutting in late december, after a bulking phase that lasted from July 04' - Dec 04'. During that time I was eating 4500 or so calories per day.

    Lemmie' give MY stats, and my problem:

    20 years old
    5' 10" , at about 175lbs.

    I have a great amount of strength for my size, but not HUGE bulging muscles.
    I've done ONE cycle of M1t, and am currently wrapping that up by doing a proper PCT.

    Anyway, I can't seem to get the fat off of my abs, and "love handles" that cover my lower obliques. How the hell can I cut this fat off? I'm REALLY lean in ALL areas BUT here. It looks dis-proportionate.

    Here's my workout schedule:

    Mon: Back & Bi's
    Tues: Chest & Tri's
    Wed: Legs
    Thurs: Shoulders & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
    Friday: Abs & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
    Every *other* Sat: Cardio, 1 hour.
    Sun: OFF

    How I've been eating:

    8:00am: bowl of cereal, and a Protein Shake ( 2 scoops of ON's).
    10:00am: A low-fat yogurt or a piece or two of fruit
    12:00pm: A sandwich w/ 100% whole grain wheat bread. Either Natural Peanut Butter, & strawberry jelly or a Tuna & Lettuce sandwich. Some fruit, a granola bar, and some veggies.

    2:30pm: A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

    3:00pm: Workout

    5:30pm A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

    6:30pm: Dinner: Usually, boneless / skinless chicken, some potatoes, veggies, or some form of "lighter" fish (halibut, etc). Or I'll do Egg-Sandwiches on wheat bread. If it's Red-Meat, it's LEAN, and in small quantities with small amounts of veggies on the side and maybe some fruit.


    In between those times given, I'm usually snacking on some nuts here & there, or some sort of either veggies (baby carrots) or fruit. I really like yogurt a lot, so sometimes I'll grab some yogurt. I've been using ONLY skim-milk, and skim-milk in my protein shakes.

    Is this still too many calories?

    I'm mostly an ecto-morph, so I'm "skinny" but not TONED in the mid-section. I have like 2 "rolls" to get rid of, and they look FUNNY because my abs are BIG under there . My mid-section feels firm, and I can see my top 4 abs in the morning, but they fade quickly throughout the day as I eat.

    I really don't want to resort to thermogenics, and I feel that I'm doing PLENTY of cardio. I don't want to eat-up my hard-earned biceps & back either.


    PLEASE help. I'm VERY willing to listen, as I'm getting frustrated with crappy results. None of my friends seem to help, as none of them understand that I'm ALWAYS hungry but can't for the life of me tone up my mid-section.

    Thanks in advance, and I look forward to hearing back from you guys.

    -Matt
    For many people, dairy is off the list during cutting, but it really does depend on how ur body reacts to it...U might wanna cut out any refined sugars like the ones found in granola bars, b-fast cereal and such...And I was just thinking, u w/o at 3pm but only have ur next meal at 5:30, do u train for 2 and 1/2 hours?? U should replenish ur body soon after a w/o...

    Have a look at the stickies on cutting and nutrition...but dont worry, a lot more people will probably answer with much more detail and advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_enough
    For many people, dairy is off the list during cutting, but it really does depend on how ur body reacts to it...U might wanna cut out any refined sugars like the ones found in granola bars, b-fast cereal and such...And I was just thinking, u w/o at 3pm but only have ur next meal at 5:30, do u train for 2 and 1/2 hours?? U should replenish ur body soon after a w/o...

    Have a look at the stickies on cutting and nutrition...but dont worry, a lot more people will probably answer with much more detail and advice!
    I usually workout for about an hour & 45 mins, to right at 2 hours. I try to come home and slam a protein shake RIGHT after I get done working out.

    I'm moving out of my house next month, so I'll actually have my OWN time & schedule on eating dinner. At the moment Mom & Dad want dinner @ that time, so I try to get home a little later / close to dinner so I'm eating right after working out. It's really annoying the way their schedule is, simply because it doesn't make sense health-wise. (I'm the health-nut in our family. Our cabinets are full of shit-food, junk, and crapola I'll never eat). They don't "understand" my ways, and my logic... but they're the ones that are heavily over-weight. (I can't get them on a treadmill, or to the gym either. I've been trying for YEARS). Anyway, so I try to time my meals as best as possible, while putting up with "THEIR" dinner...

    If it was my dinner, it'd be food right as I walked in the door, and then just snack before I go to bed... etc.


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    Curl: 145lbs (bar-style)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionNine
    Ok, so I started cutting in late december, after a bulking phase that lasted from July 04' - Dec 04'. During that time I was eating 4500 or so calories per day.

    Lemmie' give MY stats, and my problem:

    20 years old
    5' 10" , at about 175lbs.

    I have a great amount of strength for my size, but not HUGE bulging muscles.
    I've done ONE cycle of M1t, and am currently wrapping that up by doing a proper PCT.

    Anyway, I can't seem to get the fat off of my abs, and "love handles" that cover my lower obliques. How the hell can I cut this fat off? I'm REALLY lean in ALL areas BUT here. It looks dis-proportionate.

    This is typical male pattern fat storage. You may want to look into using some Absolved by Avant.

    Here's my workout schedule:

    Mon: Back & Bi's
    Tues: Chest & Tri's
    Wed: Legs
    Thurs: Shoulders & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
    Friday: Abs & 45 mins of cardio (elliptical & treadmill)
    Every *other* Sat: Cardio, 1 hour.
    Sun: OFF

    How I've been eating:

    8:00am: bowl of cereal, and a Protein Shake ( 2 scoops of ON's).

    Replace the cereal with Oats instead.

    10:00am: A low-fat yogurt or a piece or two of fruit

    This is not a meal. You need protein. Also, limit your fruit and yogurt intake. You want to limit all fruit and dairy while cutting

    12:00pm: A sandwich w/ 100% whole grain wheat bread. Either Natural Peanut Butter, & strawberry jelly or a Tuna & Lettuce sandwich. Some fruit, a granola bar, and some veggies.

    Jelly I hope that's sugar free jelly. Again the fruit, you are eating too much of it. Get rid of the granola bar and if you need more carbs then have some oat, brown rice or sweet potatoes. Really you a PBJ sandwich is not a meal and you should stick to the tuna.

    2:30pm: A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

    You need to add some EFA's here like Fish oil

    3:00pm: Workout

    5:30pm A protein shake, 2 scoops of ON's Whey.

    Where's the Carb PWO?

    6:30pm: Dinner: Usually, boneless / skinless chicken, some potatoes, veggies, or some form of "lighter" fish (halibut, etc). Or I'll do Egg-Sandwiches on wheat bread. If it's Red-Meat, it's LEAN, and in small quantities with small amounts of veggies on the side and maybe some fruit.
    OMG way too much fruit and bread in your diet. Make the potato a sweet potato. No white potatoes on a cut


    In between those times given, I'm usually snacking on some nuts here & there, or some sort of either veggies (baby carrots) or fruit. I really like yogurt a lot, so sometimes I'll grab some yogurt. I've been using ONLY skim-milk, and skim-milk in my protein shakes.

    [b]Limit the dairy and fruit. Carrots are not good for snacking. Actually you shoudn't be eating carrots on a cut period. Celery or cucumber would be better [/b}

    Is this still too many calories?

    No, but you aren't eating the right foods. Where is your bedtime meal? You should be eating some Cottage cheese and EFA's at bedtime. Your diet lacks green veggies, healthy complex carbs and EFA's. You eat too much dairy and fruit.

    I'm mostly an ecto-morph, so I'm "skinny" but not TONED in the mid-section. I have like 2 "rolls" to get rid of, and they look FUNNY because my abs are BIG under there . My mid-section feels firm, and I can see my top 4 abs in the morning, but they fade quickly throughout the day as I eat.

    I really don't want to resort to thermogenics, and I feel that I'm doing PLENTY of cardio. I don't want to eat-up my hard-earned biceps & back either.


    PLEASE help. I'm VERY willing to listen, as I'm getting frustrated with crappy results. None of my friends seem to help, as none of them understand that I'm ALWAYS hungry but can't for the life of me tone up my mid-section.

    Thanks in advance, and I look forward to hearing back from you guys.

    -Matt
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    Thanks Jodi.

    I do take Fish Oil, a multi-vitamin, and Glucosamine.

    I guess it's time to cut out the dairy & fruit.

    The hardest part of it all is that's like ALL there is in my house... My parents have NO CLUE *and I constantly ask them to buy other stuff* what to get, and why not to eat certain foods.

    Could you suggest a better lunch-time meal for me?

    (so I dont eat tuna EVERY day @ lunch, that gets OLD).


    thanks.

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    Some fruit and dairy is ok, just not at every meal.

    Take chicken mixed in a salad. There are lots of possiblities. Who says a sandwich is required for lunch? That's like saying eggs are only for breakfast.



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    Hmmmm.... very true.

    The varieties of healthy foods in my house are SLIM.

    I guess it's time for me to do some of my own food shopping, and stock up my mini fridge.

    Thanks!

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    Bro??? I know I don't look like a guy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodi
    Bro??? I know I don't look like a guy.
    I haven't seen your photo gallery, and just NOW clicked on it.

    MA' BAD! I apologize MISS. Jodi...




    I fixed my "response" in my last post too.

    Again, thanks.
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