Thread: 6 daily meals makes me feel like my stomach will explode?

It's all about control brother. I'm 240lbs and eat about 4500-5000 calories ED. I do this with a stomach that only holds 6-10oz of food per meal. If I can do it anyone can!

I guess like with anything there's going to be some kind of adjustment period. I'll stick with it.

Originally Posted by NipsMG

I guess like with anything there's going to be some kind of adjustment period. I'll stick with it.

It'll pay off I promise!

Originally Posted by largepkg

It'll pay off I promise!

Of course there are no guarantees, refunds, or exchanges with this promise.

what kind of meals are you eating ?

What you need to do is start off slow. Don't just jump right into it or you will hate it and most people fail. Not saying you would, but most people do because it's too hard to eat all those meals. Instead this is what you should do.

Week 1: Figure out HOW much you should be eating. Divide the calories in half and eat 5 meals with these amounts. This way you are introducing the 5 meals a day into your body but doing it with very small meals to help pick up your metabolism.
Week 2: Take that original number of how much you should be eating and figure out what 3/4 of those cals are. This week eat that new figure that equates 3/4 of calories and eat 5 meals.
Week 3: Take your original number and eat 5 meals a day. By the third week your metabolism should be roaring and you will be so hungry that you will have no issue eating.

good call Jodi...

How bare are your meals? When eating 5-6 meals a day, and apple and a protein shake qualifies a one meal. A can of tuna and a bannana can be another. You should be eating 5-6 small meals/day. I work in IT also and know how it can be sitting at a desk all day. Personally in know that it makes a huge difference when my first meal is within 30 minutes of waking up. If I wait until I get to my office for the first meal, it really throws me off. Today is a great example of that. I was runnig late this mornng so I didn't eat my first meal at home. Right now I'm 2 meal behind and not even hungry.

Jodi gives great advice - listen to her. Just start off slow, come up with a plan, and stick with it. You'll begin to see results and all of that planning and effort will have been worth it.

Bah.....no excuses for any of you

I work in IT also and sit on my ass all day as well and I've been doing this for several years now.

Originally Posted by Jodi

What you need to do is start off slow. Don't just jump right into it or you will hate it and most people fail. Not saying you would, but most people do because it's too hard to eat all those meals. Instead this is what you should do.

Week 1: Figure out HOW much you should be eating. Divide the calories in half and eat 5 meals with these amounts. This way you are introducing the 5 meals a day into your body but doing it with very small meals to help pick up your metabolism.
Week 2: Take that original number of how much you should be eating and figure out what 3/4 of those cals are. This week eat that new figure that equates 3/4 of calories and eat 5 meals.
Week 3: Take your original number and eat 5 meals a day. By the third week your metabolism should be roaring and you will be so hungry that you will have no issue eating.

That sounds like a good idea.

I think I'm going to try to split the calories again and throw in the 6th meal, that should also help to some extent.

I figure I should be able to handle eating at 7AM, 10AM, 1PM, 4PM, 7PM, and 10PM.

Thanks again for the advice!


Thanks!

IMHO, and according to recent studies, there doesn't seem to be much edvidence to promote that eating "alot of small meals throughout the day" does anything special.
I've found that it doesn't make a difference if I eat say 3 instead of 6 on a cut--but of course overall kcals do. Just my thoughts.


...not that I'd attempt it on a bulk though.

Could you post those studies please because everything I;ve ever read contradicts that statement.

Ok, granted I'm just a beginner, but still..

Common sense would tell me, especially in someone with a slow metabolism, that eating small meals would force your metabolism to be constantly stimulated, and would eventually raise your metabolism. Also, since you're not scarfing a ton of calories in one meal, the'll be more efficiently burned instead of having the excess from the 3 meals stored as fat.

Originally Posted by sentricyphen

IMHO, and according to recent studies, there doesn't seem to be much edvidence to promote that eating "alot of small meals throughout the day" does anything special.
I've found that it doesn't make a difference if I eat say 3 instead of 6 on a cut--but of course overall kcals do. Just my thoughts.


...not that I'd attempt it on a bulk though.

Well that works for you...but not everyone else. I know if I go to eating just 3 big meals a day over an extended period of time my metabolism does slow down some.

I would love to see these studies that you talk about as well.

Originally Posted by sentricyphen

IMHO, and according to recent studies, there doesn't seem to be much edvidence to promote that eating "alot of small meals throughout the day" does anything special.
I've found that it doesn't make a difference if I eat say 3 instead of 6 on a cut--but of course overall kcals do. Just my thoughts.


...not that I'd attempt it on a bulk though.

WHAAAATTTTTTTTTT?

Originally Posted by sentricyphen

IMHO, and according to recent studies, there doesn't seem to be much edvidence to promote that eating "alot of small meals throughout the day" does anything special.
I've found that it doesn't make a difference if I eat say 3 instead of 6 on a cut--but of course overall kcals do.

Actually, I just read that, too. I want to say it was in one of the girlie fitness magazines (where I saw it, not calling sentricyphen a girl)....maybe Self? Shape? Wherever it was, I completely disregarded it because a)it was in a magazine not a journal and b) no documentation on which studies they were referring to. I did a pubmed search and came up empty. If I can find the article again, I'll post it for your viewing pleasure, but not logical IMO

Just a thought here guys, I dont know if you have them, But I have several friends that eat all the time (kind of small meals) and are skinny, and have alot of trouble ganing weight. While I on the other hand used to eat 2-3 times a day, big big meals, and I am significantly overweight.

Don't worry about it. Your body will adjust. When I first started eating more frequently I felt stuffed a lot. I began with 5 meals a day just like you. I now eat 8 meals a day and I still get hungry in between them sometimes. My metabolism has gone insane ever since I began working a physically intensive job in addition to my workouts and clean diet.

Originally Posted by qwertyuiop753

Just a thought here guys, I dont know if you have them, But I have several friends that eat all the time (kind of small meals) and are skinny, and have alot of trouble ganing weight. While I on the other hand used to eat 2-3 times a day, big big meals, and I am significantly overweight.

They are probably ecto's where as you are more of an endo meso....ectos have a hard time gaining weight period. Me being and endo meso if I don't eat frequently my metabolism shuts down and my fat storage picks up.

No, No...not from a girlie magazine, that is, unless Lyle Mcdonald is a girl.


1) Here is a thread regarding meal frequency (and the lower of the frequency):

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/for...tein+frequency

2)Another

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/for...meal+frequency

3) Another, that makes reference to the above threads.

http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/...=ST;f=12;t=976


That is a start, something to check out Jodi. I realize it goes against everything typically written.(But remember it's Lyle.) I appologize for only having the thread links, although they make reference to specific research.

I will post the research in a moment.

While it flies in the face of almost everything that is prescribed on this board (and hence I'm not sure about the wisdom of posting this, certainly no interest in online arguments in general, they're a pointless time-waster ), I just don't see the evidence backing the claim that eating more, smaller meals will increase metabolic rate vs. the same caloric intake eaten as fewer, larger meals.

What is the mechanism that is proposed here? Assuming the same macros, TEF does not change between the two scenarios - this whole idea of "stoking the metabolic fire through regular feeding" just doesn't stand up.


I can absolutely agee that smaller and more frequent meals may avoid extreme hunger and in this way reduce food intake at later meals ('eat too little during the day and over-eat at night' syndrome will ensure you spin your wheels, sure) ... but that's not what is at issue here. What I don't see is the metabolic magic to eating six times a day?

Originally Posted by Novo

While it flies in the face of almost everything that is prescribed on this board (and hence I'm not sure about the wisdom of posting this, certainly no interest in online arguments in general, they're a pointless time-waster ), I just don't see the evidence backing the claim that eating more, smaller meals will increase metabolic rate vs. the same caloric intake eaten as fewer, larger meals.

What is the mechanism that is proposed here? Assuming the same macros, TEF does not change between the two scenarios - this whole idea of "stoking the metabolic fire through regular feeding" just doesn't stand up.


I can absolutely agee that smaller and more frequent meals may avoid extreme hunger and in this way reduce food intake at later meals ('eat too little during the day and over-eat at night' syndrome will ensure you spin your wheels, sure) ... but that's not what is at issue here. What I don't see is the metabolic magic to eating six times a day?

True it was not wise to post it here, if only concerned about my own image.
Simply, I had not seen anyone even aware of the other side, and the differing oppinions. So check it out if you have the time. No need for an argument, at least I don't think so.

Why are you going to let your precious LBM get risked because you let yourself fall into a catabolic state for countless consecutive hours? There was even a link in there from Lyle that mentioned a study where boxers were cutting, and the one eating 2 meals a day lost more LBM than the one eating 6 meals a day at the same total number of calories and grams of protein.

Also, I do believe eating smaller meals has some bearing on your metabolism. If your body senses starvation on the horizon, it has all kinds of mechanisms to prepare for this. One being that it slows down one's metabolism and begins to pack away fat in the event of an extended fast.