Thread: Is it genes or 'roids???

MesoMorph

Originally Posted by crimsondestinyx

An associate of mine is the second strongest in the school. There's a coach that's stronger than him but that's beside the point. He benches well over 330lbs but eats like shit! Everyone keeps saying you gotta eat right to get and stay strong, but he's told me what he eats and it doesn't sound like he has heard about that eat right stuff. He claims he doesn't take roids and I don't wanna say that he does cuz thas not totally fair. He has been lifting for a while though. What do you guys think?

P.S. He's my only rival and I'm training my hardest to be ready for him next football season!!!

how much does he weigh ?

And how tall is he along with his weight. Just trying to get an idea if his physique is naturally possible. Basically tell more about the guy.

If he is a carnivore that eats crap but a lot of crap it may not hurt his goals at all. Keep in mind a lot of guys that are mesos also have insane cns stimulation naturally. On a few of the strength boards I visit, I see about 1/4th the guys are tiny ectos that don't eat near enough and the other 3/4 eat like slobs and are borderline chunky. All seem to be strong as all hell.

Pressin 330lbs and not eating right means theres a chance you take roids? Pfft..some guys are just stronger than others no matter ones diet.

id have to say its genes, and if you dont have the genes, its roids

i dont eat like a slob, i eat right, but i dont eat a shitload either. and i can put up 300 with almost no problems, and i have just been like this a lot of my life

you don't have to eat right to be strong, you just have to eat enough.

Originally Posted by Yanick

you don't have to eat right to be strong, you just have to eat enough.

lol.......george? or yanick? or george? or yanick? who is that?

Originally Posted by P-funk

lol.......george? or yanick? or george? or yanick? who is that?

all of george's fat, none of his strength/smarts

Originally Posted by Warren[BigW]

Pressin 330lbs and not eating right means theres a chance you take roids? Pfft..some guys are just stronger than others no matter ones diet.

I agree. He may be on, he may not, some people are just strong.

there are three 17 year old kids in my school BP 300+. i know ppl say theres no "magic pill" for muscle building, but these kids dont hardly eat, they took this shit and in a matter or months blew up. it seem to me (from what ive seen) that steroids have a way bigger effect on teenagers because they seem to work better, (but i also have no idea of the pice they may have had to pay to get there muscle) just as how 1-ad worked better for me then ive seen in most adults

it's not hard for those big offensive and defensive lineman to bench over 330, and they all eat like shit anyways. need some stats on this kid (weight, height etc..) to know about the roids or not.

they don't even have to be that big. I had several friends in high school that were barely over 200 and benching 315 for reps.

these kids took steroids, there big.. ripped.. they dont really eat much, and they dont play sports. not only that but they got there muscle pretty quickly as well. besides that i know they took steroids anyways because they are my friends.

Originally Posted by DDan16

it seem to me (from what ive seen) that steroids have a way bigger effect on teenagers because they seem to work better

steroids do not work better in teens it is simply that they are in their highest untrained state so the effects of supraphysiologic doses of steroids seem "incredible". Over time they could have obtained the exact same physique. give

a teen who has barely worked out a 10 week cycle of test @ 500 mg/wk and even with a half-assed diet he would most likely gain 20 lbs of LBM. give the same exact cycle to a guy who has been training for 15-20 years he may only gain 3-5 lbs of LBM.

i see, that makes a lot of sense, thanks for the info

Originally Posted by LAM

give the same exact cycle to a guy who has been training for 15-20 years he may only gain 3-5 lbs of LBM.

damm that sucks! but i guess i can see your point, although only 3lbs from a test cycle? surely your exaggerating that just a little!

i gained 20 lbs off my first 1ad cycle

Originally Posted by DDan16

i gained 20 lbs off my first 1ad cycle

What part of your cycle did you make the most gains? (I mean like, 1st week, 2nd week, etc?)

Originally Posted by young d

surely your exaggerating that just a little!

not at all.

I think I gained 4 lbs off my first cycle @ 500 mg/wk for 10 weeks. for advanced trainers you just won't see gains of 20 lbs of LBM off a single cycle, it just doesn't happen. steroids or not the more advanced you are the slower gains come unless you decide to use super high doses which IMO for someone who does not compete it is just asinine to do so. but this is exactly why you don't see IFBB pro's coming in heavier and heavier year after year. It takes some of those guys several years just to increase their contest weight by 8-10 lbs

and to be honest I wouldn't want to gain 20 lbs of LBM of a single cycle, it is living hell on your tendons, ligaments and connecting tissues

Im only 17 and I put up 295. I only weigh 165 pounds though so for someone a little bigger it could def be natural.