How bad is beer

Celtic Bhoy · 02-12-2005, 10:21 AM

Everyone knows beer is a major NO for bodybuilders because it sets you back and basically makes your training futile.But I was wondering if anyone knows(roughly) how bad it sets you back.For example, how many workouts would it take to "recover" or how many previous workouts would be lost from a night out on the town?

silencer · 02-12-2005, 10:34 AM

LOL, your Irish, I can see why the question has arisen. ...I go out on the town a reasonable bit and I still see good gains, but I am quite the beginner, furthermore, I will never know how much I potentially could have gained if I didn't go...I Suppose its up to you, The Body WILL adapt to the strain you put on it after intense training, but since beer has empty calories as well as helping the production of Estrogen..your recovery wont be as effective...I mean, if your taking Ph's though, drinking altogether is not very clever. I suppose you just have to realise what you want to gain from your workouts, by drinking you will not achieve your full potential in as quick a time as you could (or maybe even ever) But gains should still come no matter, unless you are generally quite an advanced lifter, then I don't know..

TopProducer · 02-12-2005, 12:05 PM

I don't know how to give your an exact rating on how bad it is, but it's bad. If I have 2 drinks I feel weaker the next day i'm in the gym and it screws my appetite up. I can't eat anything until late afternoon, which isn't good for gains.

Scentifically - Alcohol slows protein synthesis in your body for at least 24hrs.

Either way im in college and still have to booze it up on occasion.

thajeepster · 02-12-2005, 12:12 PM

I know a lot of guys who really down some beers on the weekends and it seems to be actually helping their gains, I myself, dont drink, but Im pretty confused on that one.

**I Are Baboon** · 02-12-2005, 12:24 PM

Mmmm....beer...my favorite cheat food.

A beer once in a while won't hurt you.

Archangel · 02-12-2005, 01:18 PM

I believe back in the day, BB'ers used to open a beer in the gym, set it in the corner, workout and let it go flat. Then afterwards drink it for the protein. Thats what an old school BBer told me a while back. Not sure if he was pullin my leg or not.

Du · 02-12-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel

I believe back in the day, BB'ers used to open a beer in the gym, set it in the corner, workout and let it go flat. Then afterwards drink it for the protein. Thats what an old school BBer told me a while back. Not sure if he was pullin my leg or not.

For the protein?

LAM · 02-12-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Celtic Bhoy

Everyone knows beer is a major NO for bodybuilders because it sets you back and basically makes your training futile.But I was wondering if anyone knows(roughly) how bad it sets you back.For example, how many workouts would it take to "recover" or how many previous workouts would be lost from a night out on the town?

alochol will not effect strength gains as much as it will muscle building. a good night out on the town can shut down muscle protein synthesis for several days. so for those looking to gain maximum amounts of LBM drinking alcohol on a regular basis is the worst thing you can do

Archangel · 02-12-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by du510

For the protein?

Thats what he said

soxmuscle · 02-12-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Thats what he said

You would have to drink a case of beer for the protein to have any effect, and by that point your throwing up everything you ate, and your in a loop for days.

LAM · 02-12-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

You would have to drink a case of beer for the protein to have any effect, and by that point your throwing up everything you ate, and your in a loop for days.

alcohol impairs protein digestion. then you have have to factor in that the protein in alcohol is derived from plants which means any protein found in alcohol has a very poor BV to begin with. better off eating a snickers bar for protein than beer

soxmuscle · 02-12-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

alcohol impairs protein digestion. then you have have to factor in that the protein in alcohol is derived from plants which means any protein found in alcohol has a very poor BV to begin with. better off eating a snickers bar for protein than beer

Heh, good point.

Celtic Bhoy · 02-12-2005, 05:00 PM

Well im a college student so we would go out, but not alot.Maybe once or twice a month for class parties or whatever.I know ya shouldnt,but the girls are to hot to resist.Personally i dont really notice any decrease in my ability to bench the weight i was doing the day before and my abs dont lose definition or anything.Its just a psychological thing,like it makes ya not want to bother workout the next day because ya think its a waste of time otr something.

[quote=silencer]LOL, your Irish, I can see why the question has arisen.
Ha!yeah right!Ive been out with Scottish lads a few times and they really know how to paint the town red

Cold Iron · 02-12-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

alochol will not effect strength gains as much as it will muscle building. a good night out on the town can shut down muscle protein synthesis for several days. so for those looking to gain maximum amounts of LBM drinking alcohol on a regular basis is the worst thing you can do

Interesting, I never thought of it like this ...but that describes my first two years working out to a tee.

TopProducer · 02-12-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thajeepster

I know a lot of guys who really down some beers on the weekends and it seems to be actually helping their gains, I myself, dont drink, but Im pretty confused on that one.

They are definitly gaining fat and not muscle. There is no way beer is going to translate to positive gains.

Heftysmurf · 02-12-2005, 10:56 PM

My self I have had some of my best workouts after a heavy night of drinking, spend half the day in hang over recovery mode. Then hitting the gym having a killer work out and walking out feeling like godzilla

not sure how much it's hindering my gains.... but as far as hindering my workout not at all!!

musclepump · 02-13-2005, 12:17 AM

I'm cutting for a show right now... NO BEER!

KarlW · 02-14-2005, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel

I believe back in the day, BB'ers used to open a beer in the gym, set it in the corner, workout and let it go flat. Then afterwards drink it for the protein. Thats what an old school BBer told me a while back. Not sure if he was pullin my leg or not.

warm flat beer right after a workout? ......mmmmmmmmmmmmm.......NOT!

maze · 02-14-2005, 12:51 PM

Many Olympia class bodybuilders like Franco Colombu and Arnold drinked beer weekly ... And some have beer in their recommended meals.

You just need to drink an equally amount of water in the next 30minutes. And not over do it.

VicVega · 02-16-2005, 01:45 AM

I lift hard, on friday and saturday nights and then i go out and have a good 10-15 keg cups. I can see now why i got fat quick, those pre and post shakes did me in.

BigDyl · 02-16-2005, 06:45 AM

What about a small glass of red whine before bed. It has alot of anti-oxidants, and helps you goto sleep. But, will it fux up your gains?

KarlW · 02-16-2005, 06:55 AM

Hey Maze.......that's Vince ain't it.....

maze · 02-16-2005, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlW

Hey Maze.......that's Vince ain't it.....

Just a guy · 02-16-2005, 10:16 AM

I heard another BB'er talking about he drinks 2 glasses of wine before he goes to bed and that its supposed to be good for you. So drink up

**I Are Baboon** · 06-09-2006, 06:36 AM

I LIKE beer.

**I Are Baboon** · 06-09-2006, 07:16 AM

"Only a hundred a twenty five calories? BRILLIANT!"

luke69duke69 · 06-09-2006, 01:46 PM

I tend to go out way too often and I still manage to see gains. It definitely helps to have a few stay in nights. I am the weirdo in my group with a cooler downing protein shakes in between bars.

**Jodi** · 06-09-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I LIKE beer.

Me too

VanessaNicole · 06-09-2006, 04:00 PM

Drinking alcohol can lower your testoterone for up to 48 hours after you drink it. That means less muscle growth and more body fat storage.

And acetate, which is the energy derived from alcohol is preferentially burned for energy over all other forms of energy (carbs, fats). So you will absolutely store more of the calories you consume while drinking in the form of body fat.

And, alcohol contains 7 empty calories (no protein or fat) per gram.

It's bad for bodybuilding.
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02-12-2005, 10:21 AM	#1
Celtic Bhoy Youll Never Walk Alone Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 215 Photos: 1	How bad is beer Everyone knows beer is a major NO for bodybuilders because it sets you back and basically makes your training futile.But I was wondering if anyone knows(roughly) how bad it sets you back.For example, how many workouts would it take to "recover" or how many previous workouts would be lost from a night out on the town?

02-12-2005, 01:18 PM	#6
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VicVega Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 62	I lift hard, on friday and saturday nights and then i go out and have a good 10-15 keg cups. I can see now why i got fat quick, those pre and post shakes did me in.
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02-16-2005, 06:55 AM	#22
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02-12-2005, 10:34 AM	#2
silencer Ascendo tuum Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 659	LOL, your Irish, I can see why the question has arisen. ...I go out on the town a reasonable bit and I still see good gains, but I am quite the beginner, furthermore, I will never know how much I potentially could have gained if I didn't go...I Suppose its up to you, The Body WILL adapt to the strain you put on it after intense training, but since beer has empty calories as well as helping the production of Estrogen..your recovery wont be as effective...I mean, if your taking Ph's though, drinking altogether is not very clever. I suppose you just have to realise what you want to gain from your workouts, by drinking you will not achieve your full potential in as quick a time as you could (or maybe even ever) But gains should still come no matter, unless you are generally quite an advanced lifter, then I don't know..

02-12-2005, 12:05 PM	#3
TopProducer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 70	I don't know how to give your an exact rating on how bad it is, but it's bad. If I have 2 drinks I feel weaker the next day i'm in the gym and it screws my appetite up. I can't eat anything until late afternoon, which isn't good for gains. Scentifically - Alcohol slows protein synthesis in your body for at least 24hrs. Either way im in college and still have to booze it up on occasion.

02-12-2005, 12:12 PM	#4
thajeepster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 759 Photos: 7	I know a lot of guys who really down some beers on the weekends and it seems to be actually helping their gains, I myself, dont drink, but Im pretty confused on that one.

02-12-2005, 12:24 PM	#5
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 10,985 Photos: 10	Mmmm....beer...my favorite cheat food. A beer once in a while won't hurt you.

02-12-2005, 05:00 PM	#13
Celtic Bhoy Youll Never Walk Alone Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 215 Photos: 1	Well im a college student so we would go out, but not alot.Maybe once or twice a month for class parties or whatever.I know ya shouldnt,but the girls are to hot to resist.Personally i dont really notice any decrease in my ability to bench the weight i was doing the day before and my abs dont lose definition or anything.Its just a psychological thing,like it makes ya not want to bother workout the next day because ya think its a waste of time otr something. [quote=silencer]LOL, your Irish, I can see why the question has arisen. Ha!yeah right!Ive been out with Scottish lads a few times and they really know how to paint the town red

02-12-2005, 10:56 PM	#16
Heftysmurf Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2	My self I have had some of my best workouts after a heavy night of drinking, spend half the day in hang over recovery mode. Then hitting the gym having a killer work out and walking out feeling like godzilla not sure how much it's hindering my gains.... but as far as hindering my workout not at all!!

02-14-2005, 12:51 PM	#19
maze Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 368	Many Olympia class bodybuilders like Franco Colombu and Arnold drinked beer weekly ... And some have beer in their recommended meals. You just need to drink an equally amount of water in the next 30minutes. And not over do it.

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Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	I heard another BB'er talking about he drinks 2 glasses of wine before he goes to bed and that its supposed to be good for you. So drink up
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I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 10,985 Photos: 10	I LIKE beer.

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luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	I tend to go out way too often and I still manage to see gains. It definitely helps to have a few stay in nights. I am the weirdo in my group with a cooler downing protein shakes in between bars.
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