You shouldn't take weight gainer, it's mostly simple sugars. When I bulk I go for 1.5 grams of protein 2-3 grams of carbs.
when bulking do any of you follow the " 1 gram of pro and 1 gram of carb per every pound of body weight" or do you throw those out the dorr to achieve the 3-4k calorie intake.
im havin a hard time tryin to achieve my 3-4k calories a say without exceedin that rule, should you follow this moto and if so.. would it be acceptable to just take wieght gainer??


You shouldn't take weight gainer, it's mostly simple sugars. When I bulk I go for 1.5 grams of protein 2-3 grams of carbs.
damn man, first thing in the morning and post work out I have to have weight gainer or something doesn't feel right. I find it hard to put on weight, so I couldn't give a shit
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When you are bulking, you aim for as much as you can get. I am probably taking in over 2g of protein per pound of body weight and taking in a ton of carbs. As far as carbs, you want to try to take in good, complex carbs throughout the day like oatmeal, brown rice, whole grain breads, whole grain pastas, whole grain cereals, and veggies. You want make sure you get plenty of simple sugars (60-100g) in your post workout meal. I usually use a banana and some honey to achieve that. I also go for as many calories as I can get. I havn't taken the time to add them all up, but I am sure that I am getting at least 4-5k a day. You need to throw in random junk too. You are bulking, have fun with it. I randomly throw in an entire frozen pizza with a meal as an extra or a grilled PB sandwich. Try eating PB & jelly sandwiches between meals too. Eat a decent amount of cottage cheese right before bed and/or another PB sandwich.
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Banana's and honey are poor choice for spiking, both low on the GI. Although very ripe banana's are an acceptable throw in. Fructose refills liver glycogen, PWO you need muscle glycogen filled. Go with a combination of dextrose and maltoOriginally Posted by Purdue Power
He never said he wanted to spike his insulin though...those are just carbs that he chose post w/o. Liver glycogen is used in the muscles as soon as they are depleted. Depending on your activities depends on how fast those stores are depleted. Once the muscle glycogen is gone it search's for more and the liver is what stores it....this is because the msucles can't produce enough fast enough for our bodies so they need to have a surplus somewhere else. I always liked complex carbs and whey...always worked great for me.Originally Posted by Cold Iron
I wouldn't recomend a spike if you don't know your body well enough to see if it helps or not.
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The rule actualy says at least those values. I've been on a bulking diet for almost a month now. I've been eating 2.2g carbs/lbs, 1.6g prot/lbs, 0.43g fat/lbs, totaling 3.2k kal/day. I am very happy with the results so far, gaining 8lbs in a month. Even thou I am on 1-AD cycle @ 300mg/day.
Also for your information, you should have at least 0.4g fat/body lbs.
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Your bulking bro just eat!!!
If you want keep it clean to minimize fat gains but just be sure to take in plenty of cals to grow. Last bulk I was on I managed 7k calories a day clean....I was only bout 165lbs or so(worse mistake of my life!!). Start slow and icrease your cals by a few hundred every week or when you stop see'ing gains.
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What was, eating that much or being 165lbs?worse mistake of my life
What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)
Yea...I put on to much fat...the surplus of cals was just to much lol and it opened up my stomach so much I could eat a horse lol.Originally Posted by KarlW
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lol.. when bulking... i take it you dont follow the eat every 3 hours rule for metabolism purposes.. u just shove it in whenever you possibly can??
Not all weight gainers are like this...Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt
Negative....you still follow the same rules as always simply add more calories. Some people prefere eating every 2 hours some 3 and some every 4. Its all personal preference.Originally Posted by j rizz
My first bulk I ate what ever and when ever I wanted all day long...just ate like an animal. I enjoyed it while it lasted but I didn't like the fat I put on...from now on its clean strict bulks with bulks.
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I have been eating every 1 1/2- 2 hours. It does help to keep your metabolism going, but it makes it easier to get everything in. If you only eat 3 big meals every day, you can't get in all of the food that you can with a ton of smaller meals.
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Theres no need to eat every 1.5 thats just pointless. Your body can't digest food that fast so there is no reason to eat that often.Originally Posted by Purdue Power
6 smaller meals is better then 3 large ones but it doesn't mean you can't eat the same amount of calories for the day. That depends on the person...I know I could eat the same amount of calories whether it be in 3 or 6 meals.
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How bad is it to eat around 5 meals a day, but one of them is a massive meal? Like example: first 2 meals are around 400 cals meal 3 is like 2000 and then meals 4 and 5 are like 400.
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i like that idea..
Why the hell would you do that? Just make them all even or your metabolism is gonna be all outta wack bc its not use to all those calories.Originally Posted by kvyd
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I dont know why I do it I just get hungry after a workout and eat alot.
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