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Old 02-24-2005, 09:20 AM   #1
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Water with your meal. Bad?????????

Tell me this isn't true. My mother is all into vitamins and nutrition now and me being an ex. science major i often notice that shes been told something untrue. The latest thing is this:

If you drink fluids while you are eating it will disorganize the digestive system from its normal state so you should wait 15-20 minutes. Please tell me this is hogwash.
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Tell me this isn't true. My mother is all into vitamins and nutrition now and me being an ex. science major i often notice that shes been told something untrue. The latest thing is this:

If you drink fluids while you are eating it will disorganize the digestive system from its normal state so you should wait 15-20 minutes. Please tell me this is hogwash.
Hmmm... I remember reading a book about this topic a few years back, it was very specific as to when you should and shouldn't consume your water.
I have no idea if it has any merit. For me personally it's more important to make sure I drink enough of the stuff rather than worry about the timing of it.



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Old 02-24-2005, 11:37 AM   #3
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Your body has to have a lot of moisture to facilitate digestion. If you don't drink water with your food, your body will pull moisture from the rest of your body to make it work, thus dehydrating you.



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I know if the water is very cold it has to be heated before it can be absorbed properly - therefore drinking water that is room temperature gets absorbed faster and won't cause any problems. Maybe this is what she heard.

Water is good for you period. Drink lots of it and don't worry about when and how long it takes to absorb. Just get it in ya.



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Tell me this isn't true. My mother is all into vitamins and nutrition now and me being an ex. science major i often notice that shes been told something untrue. The latest thing is this:

If you drink fluids while you are eating it will disorganize the digestive system from its normal state so you should wait 15-20 minutes. Please tell me this is hogwash.
Definetly not true. It takes the stomach longer than 20 minutes to digest most any kind of food, so waiting 20 minutes makes absolutely no difference at all. She's wasting her time.
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If you drink fluids while you are eating it will disorganize the digestive system from its normal state so you should wait 15-20 minutes. Please tell me this is hogwash.
The more fluids you drink, the more you dilute digestive juices causing a strain on the digestive system altogether. This is the same reasoning behind not mixing food types, that require alkali to digest while eating foods that require acidic digestion.

Makes high calorie diets damn near impossible, then again the only way science knows how to greatly extend lifespan as of yet is caloric restriction. One doctor explained on his 100th birthday he got there by treating his digestive system with respect.



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So Mudge do you agree with zebra's statement?

It's not worth being a little skinny guy just to live a few years longer is it?



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The more fluids you drink, the more you dilute digestive juices causing a strain on the digestive system altogether. This is the same reasoning behind not mixing food types, that require alkali to digest while eating foods that require acidic digestion.

Makes high calorie diets damn near impossible, then again the only way science knows how to greatly extend lifespan as of yet is caloric restriction. One doctor explained on his 100th birthday he got there by treating his digestive system with respect.
This I have heard as well,
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It's not worth being a little skinny guy just to live a few years longer is it?
Another doc doing an experiment is around 130 pounds, I think he is on 1200 calories a day. He looks like a skeleton, and I dont really want to look like that personally.

I am fine having a balance in my life, but I am probably not going to be 50 years old and 300 pounds of beef either, so I will be somewhere in the middle. Lots of things determine longevity

I should have added, when you have digestion problems either from dilution or mixture of food types (if you are gassy you probably have this problem) you end up causing bacterial buildup which then overworks your immune system. So its a chain reaction of events. You can read about health issues related to irregular bowel movements too, all kinds of things to read about that are "killing you slowly."



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I should have added, when you have digestion problems either from dilution or mixture of food types (if you are gassy you probably have this problem) you end up causing bacterial buildup which then overworks your immune system. So its a chain reaction of events. You can read about health issues related to irregular bowel movements too, all kinds of things to read about that are "killing you slowly."
This would only come into effect if you spaced out your meals by 6 or 7 hours. Anything closer than that, and the food is all gonna get mixed together in your gut anyway. Some stuff sits in the gut for over 12 hours (lettuce). So the only way to avoid this is to eat only one type of food per day, or eat like two - three meals per day and one type food per meal.
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I think its o.k to drink some water with your meal, but not a whole lot or you'll cause significant dilution, I remember reading something about acid reflux if you have too much liquid in your stomach while it's trying to digest even slightly bending over or lounging back in a chair will cause it to go up the esophagus, same is true if you over eat.



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I drink water all day long, with meals and without. Love my H20



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Old 02-24-2005, 07:34 PM   #14
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I always have fluids with my meal, my whole life. As for trying to do "everything right to live forever," it isn't going to happen anyway.



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This would only come into effect if you spaced out your meals by 6 or 7 hours. Anything closer than that, and the food is all gonna get mixed together in your gut anyway. Some stuff sits in the gut for over 12 hours (lettuce). So the only way to avoid this is to eat only one type of food per day, or eat like two - three meals per day and one type food per meal.
Raw vegetables like tomatos, lettuces, cucumber, celery, red or green pepper all take roughly 30 to 40 min. for complete digestion



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Raw vegetables like tomatos, lettuces, cucumber, celery, red or green pepper all take roughly 30 to 40 min. for complete digestion
Sorry to disagree with you, but I have personally seen it with my own eyes. I used to have to seriously reduce to make weight as a professional athlete. Kind of ashamed to say it, but part of that was sometimes eating and heaving. It was 20 years ago and I was young and dumb, but that was one way to stay light...... Trust me when I say, lettuce does not completely digest in 40 minutes... and neither does any other food. (Not unless you only eat a very,very tiny amount on a totally empty stomach). You eat any kind of a meal at all and most of it is still in your belly for quite awhile. I can recall that lettuce was even known to show up the next day.
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Sorry to disagree with you, but I have personally seen it with my own eyes. I used to have to seriously reduce to make weight as a professional athlete. Kind of ashamed to say it, but part of that was sometimes eating and heaving. It was 20 years ago and I was young and dumb, but that was one way to stay light...... Trust me when I say, lettuce does not completely digest in 40 minutes... and neither does any other food. (Not unless you only eat a very,very tiny amount on a totally empty stomach). You eat any kind of a meal at all and most of it is still in your belly for quite awhile. I can recall that lettuce was even known to show up the next day.
you are not disagreeing with me but with science. bulimia not only causes a loss of stomach contents but also acid secretions that are needed for digestion. It leads to changes in body chemistry, so you caused yourself digestion problems...



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I always have fluids with my meal, my whole life. As for trying to do "everything right to live forever," it isn't going to happen anyway.
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you are not disagreeing with me but with science. bulimia not only causes a loss of stomach contents but also acid secretions that are needed for digestion. It leads to changes in body chemistry, so you caused yourself digestion problems...
You've helped me a bunch in the past and I respect your opinions very much, but you got this one wrong. I wasn't bulimic... it wasn't an everyday occurance, so it wasn't caused by that. I'm sure you've read a study that says different, but I'm telling you first hand experience - food does not digest in 40 minutes. Whatever study you've read is wrong. Even liquid things like milkshakes can take a little while to digest... and they come back up just as cold as there were when they went down. The only time something would be digested that fast was if your stomach was totally empty beforehand, and you ate a relatively small amount. Believe it or not, doesn't matter to me.
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When I had really bad digestive problems I know that drinking water agrivated my stomach. However not warm water.
And my Dr always told me to make sure not to drink cold water with meals (only 30 min before a meal or 1 hr after).
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