Thread: Protein shakes to help gain mass

I'd also try getting alot of simple carbs right after lifting to make sure you are not going catabolic. If i am not getting carbs after lifting I won't gain. I like to use like 30g of dextrose before i lift, and about 45g right after.

Ok. thank you for your input. I will also try consuming simple carbs like that before and after lifting.
I am also wondering...is ground beef and broccoli a good meal to have often if I wish to gain??

Originally Posted by Ramathorn

I am going to wait until I reach my desired weight and then try and work what fat there is into muscle.

I don't think you can turn the fat into muscle..

Well I mean the mass I gain...I am sure I can keep most of the weight and get cut again ...Ill just have to work the abs back in most likely
I only wish to gain about 10-15 more lbs...if anyone has better tips or links it would be greatly appreciated ;

yah.. dont think u can turn fat into muscle... u can gain muscle and gain fat.... or lose muscle and lose fat.... thers no direct conversion tho

Originally Posted by Ramathorn

I am also wondering...is ground beef and broccoli a good meal to have often if I wish to gain??

As long as you are getting what you need in your other meals (enough essential fats, enough proteins and enough carbs - starchy, sugary and fibrous) then this is a perfectly acceptable meal.

There is no real secret to gaining - it is just a matter of eating more energy than you put out. So it is calories that matter most. However, a good combination of all the macronutrients (carbs, proteins and fats) will make those gains easier and will alter the type of tissue that you form (eg: you have to get adequate protein for muscle growth as well as adequate essential fats for health.... Some carbs will help supply you with a good energy source and will keep your brain 'happy').

And in terms of converting fats to muscle - well, as it was stated, you can't do this. Muscle tissue is muscle tissue. Fat tissue is fat tissue. It is like trying to convert one to the other is impossible (like trying to turn an apple into an orange).

However, you can decrease your fat mass and increase your muscle mass at the same time (but the degree to which you can do this is dependant on your fat%, your energy intake, your hormone status and a number of other factors).

Originally Posted by Ramathorn

the only section I lack in is fibre (incase this has any relavance to my situation)

This normally wouldnt be a problem, but most people dont come near 6 scoops of whey a day . You are going to have some crazy gas

okay, thanks guys

and just for the record you dont need any whey to gain mass in case your wondering about that since no one said it. real food is always better.

Originally Posted by Kracin

and just for the record you dont need any whey to gain mass in case your wondering about that since no one said it. real food is always better.

Except for PWO! Whey and water PWO is a must IMHO.

true, the quick absorbtion is great, but technically you can eat a high GI food like white rice after a workout and some chicken and keep from going catabolic with the carbs

What is PWO? And yes I still eat tons of food containing proteins as well as my whey Isolate. I have to focus on the carbs now...I must admit I have been neglecting to keep track of what my carb intake has been..I just sort of go with the flow!

post work out

Originally Posted by Kracin

and just for the record you dont need any whey to gain mass in case your wondering about that since no one said it. real food is always better.

This is my dilemma. Or maybe it isn't. Because of where I live I no longer have access to Whey. The only Whey available is an overpriced rippoff.

So, I will try my PWO1 with hard boiled egg white and a simple or complext carb.

cook up some fried rice for pwo!

Originally Posted by Kracin

cook up some fried rice for pwo!

Careful with the fat PWO. This will slow absorption.

So fried rice and a pwo shake would be a good idea right after a workout?---Soy sauce won't hurt if you add a bit to the rice will it?? and how much rice are we talking about here?

Originally Posted by Ramathorn

So fried rice and a pwo shake would be a good idea right after a workout?---Soy sauce won't hurt if you add a bit to the rice will it?? and how much rice are we talking about here?

As largepkg stated, rice PWO isn't very smart; the idea behind a PWO shake is to flood your body with the protein/supplements in the shake. The rice will slow that process.

Originally Posted by Ramathorn

So fried rice and a pwo shake would be a good idea right after a workout?---Soy sauce won't hurt if you add a bit to the rice will it?? and how much rice are we talking about here?

Some steamed white rice with some soy sauce would be fine. As would 'fried' white rice - as long as you did it without any added oils/fats.

If you were going to do the 'higher GI' foods then you could also do white potato (steamed, baked, microwaved, mashed etc) as long as you didn't add fats.

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

Some steamed white rice with some soy sauce would be fine. As would 'fried' white rice - as long as you did it without any added oils/fats.

If you were going to do the 'higher GI' foods then you could also do white potato (steamed, baked, microwaved, mashed etc) as long as you didn't add fats.

Why thank you

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

Some steamed white rice with some soy sauce would be fine. As would 'fried' white rice - as long as you did it without any added oils/fats.

If you were going to do the 'higher GI' foods then you could also do white potato (steamed, baked, microwaved, mashed etc) as long as you didn't add fats.

exactly, and my staement with the fried rice was just a partial joke comment (combining the eggs and rice so it wasnt so bland). and if anyone fries anything in a pan in this forum, theyd better be using olive oil and only a little of it. and that would be egg whites, no yolks if avoidable.

Thanks for the responses Emma and Kracin, and others. The supplement store in Saigon is a rip-off.

Hi GI simple carb (even a rice cake at 125 GI), and enough hard boiled egg whites to give me 45 gms. of protein.

Sound good?

Thanks, again.

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu

Thanks for the responses Emma and Kracin, and others. The supplement store in Saigon is a rip-off.

Hi GI simple carb (even a rice cake at 125 GI), and enough hard boiled egg whites to give me 45 gms. of protein.

Sound good?

Thanks, again.

If that is what you want to do then that is fine.

^ Well I do think the glycemic spike is not really necesarry. I think I got too excited. Rice will be fine, and even complex carbs for PWO1 occasionally.

Cant your body only "handle" 40 grams of protein in one sitting? Doesnt all excess protein go out your butt?