Helo me with the coconut oil, please!

GoalGetter · 10-17-2005, 06:06 PM

I would like to introduce coconut oil into my diet. I've been reading up on the many health/diet benefits, and want to experiment. However, I'd like to know how you all who use it implement it into your meals...

I will probably NOT use it to cook my chicken or fish or as a stir fry for my veggies because I just use water for that. Yes, I like my chicken dry.

Is it ok to put in shakes, for example? Make a protein piña colada or something like that? Does it taste ok if I just eat a teaspoon of it straight out of the jar?

Is there a "best" time of the day in which to take it as opposed to another fat source, because of the high concentration of MCTs?

What else should I know?

**calalily1972** · 10-17-2005, 09:56 PM

You be the judge. I use to use Coconut oil alot and one day during a chat with Lyle McDonald and Elzi Volk, I asked them both about it. They both claimed that you would have to injest ALOT of coconut oil to make it worthwhile and seeing it's pure saturated fat you would have enough calories for healthier more important fats such as N3's. IMO, at the amount you are looking to take you are not going to get any benefit out of it and you will be wasting calories on a saturated fat.

GoalGetter · 10-17-2005, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

You be the judge. I use to use Coconut oil alot and one day during a chat with Lyle McDonald and Elzi Volk, I asked them both about it. They both claimed that you would have to injest ALOT of coconut oil to make it worthwhile and seeing it's pure saturated fat you would have enough calories for healthier more important fats such as N3's. IMO, at the amount you are looking to take you are not going to get any benefit out of it and you will be wasting calories on a saturated fat.

Can you quantify "A LOT"? I mean if i take say 1 tbsp a day total (summing up a teaspoon in each of 3 meals), is that not enough to benefit? Is that a small amount, and as such, doing more harm than good in that case?

**calalily1972** · 10-17-2005, 10:04 PM

5-6 Tablespoons a day

1 T a day won't do much from what I've heard. You can try it and see if it works for you though. Make sure you get Virgin coconut oil.

The Monkey Man · 10-17-2005, 10:08 PM

I know a pretty good recipe for Luau Chicken using coconut milk -

(Highly Fatty)

aggies1ut · 10-17-2005, 10:48 PM

I could never get with the whole coconut oil deal myself. The same goes for flax oil. I just stick with fish, walnuts, olive oil, fish oil caps, and Sesathin.

lnvanry · 10-17-2005, 11:27 PM

Flaxseed isn't so bad in 1g capsules....I take 10-20 a day.

**calalily1972** · 10-17-2005, 11:29 PM

No it's good for you but it's not as good for as fish oil is. Flax oil has a very small conversion of EPA/DHA where as fish oil IS EPA/DHA and no conversion is necessary.

lnvanry · 10-17-2005, 11:46 PM

perhaps in lay terms Jodi.

EPA?

**calalily1972** · 10-18-2005, 12:10 AM

EPA/DHA = eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid. Its the EFA - omega 3 fatty acid found in fish oils.

thajeepster · 10-18-2005, 05:51 AM

cant you buy mct oil pills as a supplement? As opposed to trying to get them from coconut oil?

FishOrCutBait · 10-18-2005, 06:12 PM

You can buy them as a liquid, I know that

GoalGetter · 10-18-2005, 06:24 PM

Yeah i suppose i can buy MCTs as caps or liquid, but that defeats the purpose. I wanted it for the taste in foods. If i'm gonna swallow pills i might as well just keep doing nothing but fish oils.

**P-funk** · 10-18-2005, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

You be the judge. I use to use Coconut oil alot and one day during a chat with Lyle McDonald and Elzi Volk, I asked them both about it. They both claimed that you would have to injest ALOT of coconut oil to make it worthwhile and seeing it's pure saturated fat you would have enough calories for healthier more important fats such as N3's. IMO, at the amount you are looking to take you are not going to get any benefit out of it and you will be wasting calories on a saturated fat.

I don't get where they are going with that? Why would eating a lot of it be any different then eating a little of it?

if you eat a little bit of it you are doing nothing but wasting calories on saturated fat? So....if you eat a lot of it you are doing nothing but wasting MORE calories on saturated fat?? The MCTs don't work unless you injest a whole bunch. When injested in small quantities they are just saturated fats but in larger quantities you can gain the benefit of the medium chain?

Even if you are intaking a varitey of different fats through out the day wouldn't this be just one more thing to add to it? Is a little saturated fat that bad?

I would love to hear their reasoning for their claim.

**calalily1972** · 10-18-2005, 09:59 PM

I gather it's because you don't get the benefits of MCT's unless it's in higher doses.

So IOW getting in a small of amount of MCT's isn't going to do much so therefore the calories you consume in the coconut oil could be used for something else such as n3's or n6's etc.....

GG - Coconut Oil is a sat fat so therefore it's a solid form. You can't really pour a teaspoon in your shake because it's solid. Also it doesn't taste very good unless you pan fry with it. I still have some and sometimes I use it but that's only when I'm out of pam or olive oil

Emma-Leigh · 10-18-2005, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

I gather it's because you don't get the benefits of MCT's unless it's in higher doses.

So IOW getting in a small of amount of MCT's isn't going to do much so therefore the calories you consume in the coconut oil could be used for something else such as n3's or n6's etc.....

That and the fact that the metabolic benefits of the coconut oil (MCT) are only really seen for a few weeks - after this the liver 'adjusts' and it is not worth it anymore.

Tricia87 · 10-20-2005, 02:30 PM

Sort of off topic: It makes a great hair oil, one of the few that actually penetrates the hair shaft, and washes out much better than other oils I've used.

Tricia

Double D · 01-28-2007, 06:05 PM

I did a search on coconut oil. And from what I gather it is ok to cook with it? Is this like a cook once a day with it? Or is it more like now and again? Just looking for something to make the chicken not taste so blah. I am on a cut so what about that? I know if it fits into your caloric daily intake, but if you fit brownies into your daily intake your fine. But all in all, a good deal or not?

**P-funk** · 01-28-2007, 08:17 PM

lots of saturated fat in it. Good source of medium chain triglycerides. But, I think you have to be taking so much of them a day to get the full effect (or it was something like that. can't friggin' remeber).

I think it tastes good when you cook shrimp in it. I don't use it very often though.

Double D · 01-28-2007, 08:27 PM

I can remember Iain saying to cook with it rather than Olive oil because it can be heated and not affect it.

Freighter · 01-28-2007, 08:34 PM

I use coconut oil as a substitute for butter. It tastes great if used appropriately. I like it melted over yams/sweet potatos with some cinnamon. You can add it to oatmeal, put it on toast, and cook your meats in it. It makes fish taste really good. You could add it to a shake, but it will solidify into hard crystals. I think it melts at around 75 degrees farenheit. So, if you live in a warm area, it will probably stay melted in your cupboard.

You need saturated fats in your diet, so you might as well get them from coconut oil, which is mostly MCTs, insted of from animal sources. Remember, its the long chain saturated fatty acids that are associated with heart disease. The coconut oil does not have this problem. Plus, it is easier for your body to use MCTs as energy than other fats.

Some say it gives a boost to your thyroid, which regulates your metabolism, thus helping you lose weight. This might be where the high doses discussed above are neccessary in order to see a benifit.

Double D · 01-28-2007, 08:37 PM

Thanks, much appreciated!

10-17-2005, 06:06 PM	#1
GoalGetter is still around... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,103	Helo me with the coconut oil, please! I would like to introduce coconut oil into my diet. I've been reading up on the many health/diet benefits, and want to experiment. However, I'd like to know how you all who use it implement it into your meals... I will probably NOT use it to cook my chicken or fish or as a stir fry for my veggies because I just use water for that. Yes, I like my chicken dry. Is it ok to put in shakes, for example? Make a protein piña colada or something like that? Does it taste ok if I just eat a teaspoon of it straight out of the jar? Is there a "best" time of the day in which to take it as opposed to another fat source, because of the high concentration of MCTs? What else should I know?

10-17-2005, 10:08 PM	#5
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 14,393 Photos: 57	I know a pretty good recipe for Luau Chicken using coconut milk - (Highly Fatty) Have Problems?... Chances are its due to overpopulation Save The Oceans, Save the Planet, Save Your Family, Save Yourself!

10-17-2005, 10:48 PM	#6
aggies1ut NorCal Elite Member* Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 3,580 Photos: 19	I could never get with the whole coconut oil deal myself. The same goes for flax oil. I just stick with fish, walnuts, olive oil, fish oil caps, and Sesathin. http://www.brightroom.com/view_user_...0&BIB=679&PWD=

10-18-2005, 06:12 PM	#12
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01-28-2007, 08:17 PM	#19
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,700	lots of saturated fat in it. Good source of medium chain triglycerides. But, I think you have to be taking so much of them a day to get the full effect (or it was something like that. can't friggin' remeber). I think it tastes good when you cook shrimp in it. I don't use it very often though. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

10-17-2005, 09:56 PM	#2
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	You be the judge. I use to use Coconut oil alot and one day during a chat with Lyle McDonald and Elzi Volk, I asked them both about it. They both claimed that you would have to injest ALOT of coconut oil to make it worthwhile and seeing it's pure saturated fat you would have enough calories for healthier more important fats such as N3's. IMO, at the amount you are looking to take you are not going to get any benefit out of it and you will be wasting calories on a saturated fat.

10-17-2005, 10:04 PM	#4
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	5-6 Tablespoons a day 1 T a day won't do much from what I've heard. You can try it and see if it works for you though. Make sure you get Virgin coconut oil.

10-17-2005, 11:27 PM	#7
lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tucson Posts: 3,437 Photos: 16	Flaxseed isn't so bad in 1g capsules....I take 10-20 a day.

10-17-2005, 11:29 PM	#8
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	No it's good for you but it's not as good for as fish oil is. Flax oil has a very small conversion of EPA/DHA where as fish oil IS EPA/DHA and no conversion is necessary.

10-17-2005, 11:46 PM	#9
lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tucson Posts: 3,437 Photos: 16	perhaps in lay terms Jodi. EPA?

10-18-2005, 12:10 AM	#10
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	EPA/DHA = eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid. Its the EFA - omega 3 fatty acid found in fish oils.

10-18-2005, 05:51 AM	#11
thajeepster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 759 Photos: 7	cant you buy mct oil pills as a supplement? As opposed to trying to get them from coconut oil?

10-18-2005, 06:24 PM	#13
GoalGetter is still around... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,103	Yeah i suppose i can buy MCTs as caps or liquid, but that defeats the purpose. I wanted it for the taste in foods. If i'm gonna swallow pills i might as well just keep doing nothing but fish oils.

10-18-2005, 09:59 PM	#15
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	I gather it's because you don't get the benefits of MCT's unless it's in higher doses. So IOW getting in a small of amount of MCT's isn't going to do much so therefore the calories you consume in the coconut oil could be used for something else such as n3's or n6's etc..... GG - Coconut Oil is a sat fat so therefore it's a solid form. You can't really pour a teaspoon in your shake because it's solid. Also it doesn't taste very good unless you pan fry with it. I still have some and sometimes I use it but that's only when I'm out of pam or olive oil

10-20-2005, 02:30 PM	#17
Tricia87 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Az Posts: 3	Sort of off topic: It makes a great hair oil, one of the few that actually penetrates the hair shaft, and washes out much better than other oils I've used. Tricia

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01-28-2007, 06:05 PM	#18
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	I did a search on coconut oil. And from what I gather it is ok to cook with it? Is this like a cook once a day with it? Or is it more like now and again? Just looking for something to make the chicken not taste so blah. I am on a cut so what about that? I know if it fits into your caloric daily intake, but if you fit brownies into your daily intake your fine. But all in all, a good deal or not?

01-28-2007, 08:27 PM	#20
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	I can remember Iain saying to cook with it rather than Olive oil because it can be heated and not affect it.

01-28-2007, 08:34 PM	#21
Freighter Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26	I use coconut oil as a substitute for butter. It tastes great if used appropriately. I like it melted over yams/sweet potatos with some cinnamon. You can add it to oatmeal, put it on toast, and cook your meats in it. It makes fish taste really good. You could add it to a shake, but it will solidify into hard crystals. I think it melts at around 75 degrees farenheit. So, if you live in a warm area, it will probably stay melted in your cupboard. You need saturated fats in your diet, so you might as well get them from coconut oil, which is mostly MCTs, insted of from animal sources. Remember, its the long chain saturated fatty acids that are associated with heart disease. The coconut oil does not have this problem. Plus, it is easier for your body to use MCTs as energy than other fats. Some say it gives a boost to your thyroid, which regulates your metabolism, thus helping you lose weight. This might be where the high doses discussed above are neccessary in order to see a benifit.

01-28-2007, 08:37 PM	#22
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	Thanks, much appreciated!

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