carbs at bedtime?

Tha Don · 10-18-2005, 07:57 PM

is this a definate

even when bulking? or is it more of a cutting thing?

wouldn't a small amount of carbs at bedtime be a good thing? just to keep the body in an anabolic state and allow protein to go towards growth and recovery, as opposed to burning some of it for energy whilst sleeping, or will the energy requirements whilst sleeping be so small that it will have little effect on this? (especially if you've consumed plenty of low GI carbs throughout the day)

myCATpowerlifts · 10-18-2005, 08:08 PM

I eat a fibrous, non-simple-carb along with slow protein and fat before I go to sleep, even while cutting.

You're not going to eat for 7-10 hours, so you definently need to eat a slow-absorbing carb.

**Emma-Leigh** · 10-18-2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by young d

is this a definate

even when bulking? or is it more of a cutting thing?

wouldn't a small amount of carbs at bedtime be a good thing? just to keep the body in an anabolic state and allow protein to go towards growth and recovery, as opposed to burning some of it for energy whilst sleeping, or will the energy requirements whilst sleeping be so small that it will have little effect on this? (especially if you've consumed plenty of low GI carbs throughout the day)

There have been lots of posts about this in the past: And, as I have said before, yes - a small amount of carbs at night can be a good thing! It helps to 'top up' your energy levels which can be very anabolic. And carbs will also helps prevent lean tissue loss when you are cutting...

So they can be helpful in either case.

This is my general opinion (as copied from another thread because I am lazy today)

Quote:

The whole 'no carbs after xpm' thing is a myth (sometimes it is 3pm.. sometimes 5pm.... sometimes 6pm... That should say enough about the legitimacy of the 'rule'!).

The concept was originally developed to help restrict peoples night-times snacking habits (popcorn and chips in front of the evening TV) which can results in a whole heap of 'mindless' calories!

Well, because decreasing overall daily calorie intake helped the weight loss - people assumed that the weight loss was the magical effects of not "eating carbs at night"! So the myth has stuck.

Generally, I suggest people focus most of their carbs around when they are most active - which for most is earlier in the day and around workouts. So if you are active later in the day then there is no reason to avoid carbs and if you workout later in the evening then carbs are pretty essential to help with performance and recovery.

But some people will also do best on diets where they space their carbs, protein and fats evenly over the course of the day (esp. for those people who have blood glucose instability issues) so they are also fine with carbs later in the evening.

And although some people argue that 'insulin sensitivity is decreased at night' the level of decrease is basically insignificant - and if you are eating healthy foods and you need the carbs/energy then your body is not just going to store it all away!

There have also been studies to show that when given a large meal before bed, those on a calorie restricted diet actually lost less lean body mass than those who ate a small evening meal.

If your overall daily calorie intake is on track, if you are getting enough protein and essential fats and if your food choices are 98% healthy, then carbs at night is not going to prove a problem at all.

From this thread:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh....php?p=1039773 (carbs past 6pm?)

But other threads:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=41988 (Fruit before bed)
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=44577 (carbs)
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=49568 (carbs past 6pm?)
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=52230 (Bedtime Meal calories -- too many?)
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=52673 (Carbs before bed for my bodytype?)

The13ig13adWolf · 10-19-2005, 05:17 AM

IMO, you should work your meals around your training regardless of time but i subscribe to the p/f and p/c method of dieting (whether cutting or bulking). if i trained in the pm, my last couple meals would be p/c...doesn't matter how late.

BigDyl · 10-19-2005, 06:39 AM

whats a slow card that I should eat?

FishOrCutBait · 10-19-2005, 07:56 AM

... oats, brown rice, sweet potatoes...

10-18-2005, 07:57 PM	#1
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	carbs at bedtime? is this a definate even when bulking? or is it more of a cutting thing? wouldn't a small amount of carbs at bedtime be a good thing? just to keep the body in an anabolic state and allow protein to go towards growth and recovery, as opposed to burning some of it for energy whilst sleeping, or will the energy requirements whilst sleeping be so small that it will have little effect on this? (especially if you've consumed plenty of low GI carbs throughout the day)

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myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	I eat a fibrous, non-simple-carb along with slow protein and fat before I go to sleep, even while cutting. You're not going to eat for 7-10 hours, so you definently need to eat a slow-absorbing carb.

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