brollickby06

hi everyone. After reading and researching all week, I have decided that the carb cycling diet is for me. Let me give you some background info:
I am a 17 yr old male, 165 pounds. Im not sure of my bodyfat % but im guessing 30ish. I dont really look fat, but i got some meat on me.
Anyway, my goal is to bulk up with keeping fat gains minimal

To do a bulking carb-cycle diet, I chose to have 2 high carb days, 3 low carb days, and 2 no carb days. Basically on my high carb days, i eat about as much as my low carb days..i dont have much of an apetite. I wasnt strict about carb calculations on high carb days, which is why i added a + to the carbs...i mean Twin Peak said im supposed to eat all the carbs i want right?

So here is my diet along with my workout schedule...please feel free to make any comments/suggestions

by the way, my cereal is fiberone all bran cereal.
my protein shake is isopure 0 carb protein 50g pure protein


Here we go



MON = HIGH CARB (afternoon workout)

8: eggs or protein shake + fruit + cereal (50g/5g/50g+)
11: 6 slices turkey breast (18g/1g/0g...90 cal)
1-2: pre wo protein shake + 4 strawberry + oats (50g/5g/30g+)
workout chest/back
4: post wo protein shake + fruit + oats (50g/5g/30g+)
7-8: 1 can chunk light tuna + some salad greens (33g/1.5g/0g...150 cal)
11: 6 oz chicken breast (50g/5g/0g...300 cal)



TUES = NO CARB DAY (morning workout)

6-7: 5 eggs (30g/5g/0g)
workout arms (triceps/biceps)
9: post wo shake (50g/0g/0g)
12: chicken breast + salad greens (50g/5g/0g...300 cal)
4: tuna + salad greens (33g/1.5g/0g...150 cal) 4 n 7 can be switched
7: protein shake (50g/0g/0g)
9: 6 slices turkey breast (18g/1g/0g...90 cal)
run @ some point if possible


WED = LOW CARB DAY (afternoon workout) 85 carbs

8: 6 eggs + 1/2 cup cereal (35g/7g/25g)
11: 6 slices turkey breast (18g/1g/0g...90 cal)
1-2: pre wo shake + 1/2 cup oats (50g/5g/30g)
workout legs & shoulders
4: post wo shake + 1/2 cup oats (50g/5g/30g)
7-8: tuna + salad greens (33g/1.5g/0g...150 cal)
11: chicken breast (50g/5g/0g...300 cal)



THURS = LOW CARB DAY (morning workout) 80 carbs

6-7: eggs + oats (30g/5g/30g)
workout chest/back
9: post wo shake + 1 cup cereal (50g/2g/50g)
12: chicken breast (50g/5g/0g...300 cal)
4: tuna (33g/1.5g/0g...150 cal)
7: protein shake (50g/0g/0g)
9: 6 slices turkey breast (18g/1g/0g...90 cal)
12: 1 cup 1% milkfat cottage cheese (28g/1.5g/5g...180 cal(20 from fat))



FRI = HIGH CARB DAY

11: eggs + fruit + cereal/oats (30g/5g/50g+)
2: pre wo shake + fruit + oats (50g/5g/50g+)
workout arms (triceps/biceps)
4-5: post wo shake + fruit + oats (50g/5g/50g+)
8-9: turkay/tuna/cottage cheese
12: chicken breast/cottage cheese
cheat a little bit (it is a bulking diet..isnt it)

SAT=NO CARB (follow tradition low carb day)
SUN=LOW CARB (follow traditional low carb day..maybe a little less carbs than usual)

take 1 fish oil with every protein shake



so what do you guys this of the diet?
I want to bulk, but really dont want to gain fat. I have some excess fat, and am not the strongest guy in the gym..if you know what i mean. But I am serious about this and really aim to work hard. Leave any comments/advice

thanks everyone

Emma-Leigh

Ok - Honestly. I would stop right there.

Firstly - If you were 30% BF you would probably know it! And to be 165 pounds and 30% would mean that you must either be: a. VERY short or b. Have hollow bones.

Secondly - If you some how ARE 30% BF then bulking is a stupid idea. Your carb sensivity is likely to be pretty compromised and you will get poor results (much more fat gains).


Also - if you are new to dieting and training then you are probably better off just sticking to a simple, good linear diet and training hard (plus adding a few days of cardio as well). If you sit your calories at about maintainence you will probably find that your age + lack of training will mean you can build muscle tissue reasonably quickly and you will get good results quickly.


With that said:

On looking at your diet outline it doesn't look too bad. You certainly want more fats - especially on your lower carb days (one fish oil capsule is nothing) and you may also want to increase green vegetables for your low/no carb days. You should also consider replacing the shakes with real food where you can - they are not only more satisfying and give you more nutrients they are also more thermogenic = greater calorie loss (sure, effect is minimal, but it all helps right?).

Also - if you are doing TPs plan then you want more carbs in your high carb days (carbs in 4 meals each with a peice of fruit) and on your low carb days too (carbs in 3 meals + fruit). Your low carb days are way too low in carbs - you should be having 1g per pound of carbs...

Why not just stick to something simple to start with?

brollickby06

hmmm..maybe im not 30%..i just never really checked.
Anyway, maybe i am not advanced enough for the cycling yet..youre right. Let me try to devise a good balanced meal plan and repost.
Thanks for the advice