Thread: Arguing with my dad about protein

well your dad is kind of right, you can get a full range of amino acids by combining incomplete protien sources. for example combining lentils and nuts would prodive you with a full range, although i still feel its beneficial to have a complete source in each meal.

your dads full of shit ,,,,and i dont think he is your real father ,,,get a dna test

Yeah! I'm a Dad and I'm never right...
Just ask my two sons.

Originally Posted by ST240

that protein sources like beans/nuts/soy become complete when mixed with complex carbs, veggies and other "non-poultry" items.

He is right. You can get a complete protein by mixing different non-animal proteins. But, as a BBer, you are better off with a more complete source with each meal.

This was recently discussed. See responses from Jodi and Emma here .

Originally Posted by ST240

protein sources like beans/nuts/soy become complete when mixed with complex carbs, veggies and other "non-poultry" items.

Not all complex carbs have protein. But I dont know, incomplete protein are completed with complete proteins or with other incomplete proteins as well?

It depends on what incomplete proteins you are combining and what amino acids each one is missing. These combinations are all complete proteins:

Rice and beans
Corn and beans
Corn and lima beans
Corn tortillas and refried beans
Pasta and bean soup
Soybeans and seeds

- this was taken from "Power Eating" by Susan M Kleiner

tell your dad he should be happy that you are involved in a healthy activity and are concerned about nutrition...would he rather you eat fast food and get drunk every weekend?

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

tell your dad he should be happy that you are involved in a healthy activity and are concerned about nutrition...would he rather you eat fast food and get drunk every weekend?

The best answer so far.

honestly don't worry about it so much you should fight with your dad about your moms distaste in your pick of women.....Not Protien come, on man.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

tell your dad he should be happy that you are involved in a healthy activity and are concerned about nutrition...would he rather you eat fast food and get drunk every weekend?

rob to the rescue^^^ ..ur father is right in the aspect that mixing certain carbs together provide a more complete protein source then straight up protein by it self..but as a bb u need more protein to build muscle so u want the best source possible..i remember awhile seeing a chart about the best digestible protein listing whey, egg whites and then chicken/turkey breast for as close to 100% protein absorption

obey your father and quit arguing with him. You ungrateful kids make me sick!!!!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

obey your father and quit arguing with him. You ungrateful kids make me sick!!!!

Fuck you dad!`

I hate when I argue with my dad and he is correct. Sorry bro, your dad is right, mixing beans and rice or other incomplete proteins will form complete proteins. BUT, they just don't taste the same as steak. That right there is enough to argue about!

Although I generally try to consume a complete source of protein at every meal, it is probably fine to mix two incomplete sources. Your muscles aren't going to atrophy if you lack a complete protein source one meal out of every few days.

However, I would ask my dad why he gives a shit? As long as you eat what was cooked in addition to the supplemental complete protein source you whip up, then what's the problem?

Thanks for the responses. Ill have to tell him he was right.

But most of you guys got the wrong idea about the mood of the argument. It wasn't a fight, dishes being thrown, holes in walls being punched etc. over protein. It was a friendly conversational disagreement at the dinner table.

Originally Posted by ST240

Thanks for the responses. Ill have to tell him he was right.

But most of you guys got the wrong idea about the mood of the argument. It wasn't a fight, dishes being thrown, holes in walls being punched etc. over protein. It was a friendly conversational disagreement at the dinner table.

Well you better start practicing then! You have to hit him with a dish to the face before he has a chance to wallow in your admittance of inaccurate knowledge.

Originally Posted by ST240

Thanks for the responses. Ill have to tell him he was right.

But most of you guys got the wrong idea about the mood of the argument. It wasn't a fight, dishes being thrown, holes in walls being punched etc. over protein. It was a friendly conversational disagreement at the dinner table.

Oh, well in that case, tell him to go fuck himself.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Oh, well in that case, tell him to go fuck himself.

That should get the dishes flying!

Don't let your dad tell you not to take supplemental protein. Whey protein supplements are so much more pure and better quality protein and its formulated with amino acids and other compounds so its the most effective protein source for building muscle. If you eat a big meal of protein mixed with carbs, your body starts the process of turning all the carbs to sugar and most of the protein does not get absorbed.

Originally Posted by brentls49

Don't let your dad tell you not to take supplemental protein. Whey protein supplements are so much more pure and better quality protein and its formulated with amino acids and other compounds so its the most effective protein source for building muscle. If you eat a big meal of protein mixed with carbs, your body starts the process of turning all the carbs to sugar and most of the protein does not get absorbed.

Says the guy with a sup supplier in his sig. Protein from food is better than whey.

Originally Posted by brentls49

Whey protein supplements are so much more pure and better quality protein and its formulated with amino acids and other compounds so its the most effective protein source for building muscle.

Bullshit.

your dad cooks? what a fag. Make that wine sucking bitch-ho get off her fat fucking ass and cook the fucking food!

Originally Posted by juggernaut

your dad cooks? what a fag. Make that wine sucking bitch-ho get off her fat fucking ass and cook the fucking food!

Originally Posted by ST240

Food is "whey" better than supliments(ha ha haaa i am a comedic genious) your body absorbs up to 50% more nutrients from food sources than supliment sources. Anyway I noticed you are from edmonton so that means your canadian and shouldn't you ridding at whistler not working out??? I would be anyway. Oh yeah if your dad is a hippy vegan than you will never ever ever win A. he is your dad and B. never start a fight with a vegan they don't even make sense when they talk.....You brain just won't work right with out a steak in the mix.

Originally Posted by slider

Food is "whey" better than supliments(ha ha haaa i am a comedic genious) your body absorbs up to 50% more nutrients from food sources than supliment sources. Anyway I noticed you are from edmonton so that means your canadian and shouldn't you ridding at whistler not working out??? I would be anyway. Oh yeah if your dad is a hippy vegan than you will never ever ever win A. he is your dad and B. never start a fight with a vegan they don't even make sense when they talk.....You brain just won't work right with out a steak in the mix.

I am not sure Edmonton is much closer to Whistler than Idaho is

dad is right but the BV of incomplete proteins is crap stick to whole food animal proteins

Originally Posted by slider

Food is "whey" better than supliments(ha ha haaa i am a comedic genious) your body absorbs up to 50% more nutrients from food sources than supliment sources. Anyway I noticed you are from edmonton so that means your canadian and shouldn't you ridding at whistler not working out??? I would be anyway. Oh yeah if your dad is a hippy vegan than you will never ever ever win A. he is your dad and B. never start a fight with a vegan they don't even make sense when they talk.....You brain just won't work right with out a steak in the mix.

1. I meant I'd supplement with tuna, "supplement" being a verb, not a noun.

2. Just cuz im canadian doesn't mean i have a world class ski resort in my back yard. I bet the percent of time Canadians spend "ridding" is just the same as you fellow Americans. Yes, I do enjoy snowboarding and i try to get out to the mountains once every year.

3. Where did you get the idea that my dad is a hippy vegan? Please re-read my original post and notice that i said, "sometimes the main source is something incomplete..." ie. once a week.

Anything else?