Cheap Nutrition

BigDyl · 11-28-2005, 09:15 PM

My problem seems to be, no matter how much expensive food I buy from the health food store, I go through it very quickly. I need to find some inexpensive ways of making healthy food. I know tuna is cheap, but I don't want to eat too much of it because of mercury concerns. Chicken seems to be too expensive.

Mainly I'm looking for cheaper protien sources, and I already supplement with whey. Any ideas?

aceshigh · 11-28-2005, 09:49 PM

oats ,,eggs,,,go fishing,,,,,or hunting,,,,,,,eat your neighbours dog,,,,,,,,rats are a good protien source,,,,,as are cockroaches,,,,,,,drink your own urine to recycle your supplements,,,,,,,,eat grass from your yard,,,,,,set a small animal trap in your yard,,,,,,,if your in canada go shoot a bear theres enough meat for a year

**Emma-Leigh** · 11-28-2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Mainly I'm looking for cheaper protien sources, and I already supplement with whey. Any ideas?

Complete stuff:
FF dairy - milk is cheap as chips... ff/sf yoghurt or cottage cheese is also cheap.

Poultry - bulk buy chicken breast and it is cheap... Eggs are REALLY cheap and a great source of protein

Seafood - Don't worry about the mercury, having 1 can of tuna/day is fine. But other cheap sources are tins of salmon or sardines. If you bulk buy frozen fish (such as dory) then it is cheap too.

Other sources of cheap proteins are things like:
Legumes - Go for kidney beans, chick-peas and lentils. These are all really high in protein
Nuts - eg: almonds, peanuts, walnuts. All good for protein. Buy in bulk and they are cheap.

Hlanderr · 11-28-2005, 11:37 PM

i have heard about the mercury concerns, but numerous people say that this is only an issue to children and elderly people...
something someone told me: CHUNK tuna is smaller fishes added together, and the smaller fish retain less mercury. SOLID WHITE ALBACORE tuna is a larger fish and apparently holds more mercury. the truthfullness of this im not sure of, but the person who told me this has lifted over 25 years

one thing thats fairly cheap is natural peanut butter...
i add this to almost every shake.... its cheap and gives 8g protein with some good calories and fats.... of course its bad if your dieting

PreMier · 11-28-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aceshigh

oats ,,eggs,,,go fishing,,,,,or hunting,,,,,,,eat your neighbours dog,,,,,,,,rats are a good protien source,,,,,as are cockroaches,,,,,,,drink your own urine to recycle your supplements,,,,,,,,eat grass from your yard,,,,,,set a small animal trap in your yard,,,,,,,if your in canada go shoot a bear theres enough meat for a year

You should keep stupid bullshit posts in open chat.

garethhe · 11-29-2005, 08:50 AM

Of course eggs cost a different amount in different places, but by me I can buy 18 eggs for 99 cents. That's five and a half cents per egg, and 3.5g of protein per egg (if eating only the egg white). <busting out the calculator> That's 1.4g of protein per penny.

If anybody can come up with a cheaper source of protein (not counting bodily fluids), I'd love to hear it.

alexvega · 11-29-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PreMier

You should keep stupid bullshit posts in open chat.

PREMIER be quiet sounds better or look nice

Hlanderr · 11-29-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by garethhe

Of course eggs cost a different amount in different places, but by me I can buy 18 eggs for 99 cents. That's five and a half cents per egg, and 3.5g of protein per egg (if eating only the egg white). <busting out the calculator> That's 1.4g of protein per penny.

If anybody can come up with a cheaper source of protein (not counting bodily fluids), I'd love to hear it.

so if you take out the yolk its only 3.5 grams of protein left?!?!?!

garethhe · 11-29-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hlanderr

so if you take out the yolk its only 3.5 grams of protein left?!?!?!

well, here's what the stats in fitday.com told me.

1 large egg, yolk=2.85g protein
1 large egg, white=3.47g protein
1 large egg, whole=6.24g protein (that doesn't quite add up, but pretty close)

garethhe · 11-29-2005, 12:19 PM

sorry, my arithmetic was totally wrong, by the way (i shouldn't attempt math first thing in the morning). starting from the beginning, 18 medium eggs for 99 cents and 3.4g of protein per egg white makes 61g of protein per dollar, rounding...so, it's really 0.61g of protein per penny.

taking it a bit further...let's say your goal was to eat 300g of protein per day. you could (i'm not recommending this, but you could) eat only egg whites, and that would cost you a bit under $5.00 a day for your protein needs in total.

i guess if you don't really care about eating a buttload of cholesterol, you can get even more protein per penny out of eggs...if you ate the whole egg, you'd get 112g of protein per dollar, or 1.12g of protein per penny. 300g of protein would cost you less than $2.70.

how's that for bang for your buck?

Gordo · 11-29-2005, 12:23 PM

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Nuts - eg: almonds, peanuts, walnuts. All good for protein. Buy in bulk and they are cheap.

Calorie dense though....actually....wouldn't nuts really be better used as a fat source with the available protein as sort of a bonus by-product? Or protein is protein, and it all adds up at the end of the day?

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Owning a standalone freezer is a good investment....it allows you to buy bulk chicken, turkey, steaks etc... that way when there's bulk sales....you can load up that day. Even if all you can get is a small chest freezer...it's worth it for the cost savings of buying bulk.

NeilPearson · 11-29-2005, 12:26 PM

If you buy in bulk at Costco or other large bulk places you can get a lot for relatively cheap

garethhe · 11-29-2005, 12:43 PM

i've always looked at nuts as a good source of healthy fats, and the protein as a bonus thrown in.

**Emma-Leigh** · 11-29-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordo

Calorie dense though....actually....wouldn't nuts really be better used as a fat source with the available protein as sort of a bonus by-product? Or protein is protein, and it all adds up at the end of the day?

Yes - nuts are primarily a fat source, just as beans are primarily a carb source - but at the end of the day they will also give you amino acids which will all 'add up' to help boost your overall protein intake.

Gordo · 11-29-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

Yes - nuts are primarily a fat source, just as beans are primarily a carb source - but at the end of the day they will also give you amino acids which will all 'add up' to help boost your overall protein intake.

m'kay

dougnukem · 11-29-2005, 04:15 PM

Fishing or hunting wouldn't be a bad idea. After all, if you are a ninja, you should have no problem catching animals. But consumer wise, bulk shopping is the way to go. It's just like your supplements, the larger quantity, ends up being cheaper per/serving.

boilermaker · 11-29-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dougnukem

Fishing or hunting wouldn't be a bad idea. After all, if you are a ninja, you should have no problem catching animals. But consumer wise, bulk shopping is the way to go. It's just like your supplements, the larger quantity, ends up being cheaper per/serving.

I'm always looking for people to fish with me in July and August. Here are a couple of productive mornings that yielded LOTS of protein. It's more fun than shopping too.

bigss75 · 11-29-2005, 05:40 PM

Yeah fishing is always good, Just dont be those people they take every fish they catch no matter the size. Plus depending where you live you might not want to eat any fish near there.

thajeepster · 11-29-2005, 08:07 PM

When anything is on sale buy big time in bulk. Whenever chicken is on sale at the local grocery, i get like 20lbs... my freezer is always stocked. Same goes for lean beef.

luke69duke69 · 11-29-2005, 10:36 PM

Man, I better have some venison by the end of the week or I'm gonna be pissed. First week this week in PA for Deer. Going to bed now to get up for it. Venison is one of the leanest red meats out there. Also a good idea is to get a crock pot. You can cook up a lot of food and keep it warm throughout the day for your meals. Chilli with lean ground beef, just stay away from a lot of salty seasoning. I like throwing an entire chicken in and then picking at it all day. It really depends on how often you can eat the same thing. I am slowly learning to eat the same thing for a week at a time, then switching it up to something else I can eat for a week at a time.

Hlanderr · 11-30-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by garethhe

sorry, my arithmetic was totally wrong, by the way (i shouldn't attempt math first thing in the morning). starting from the beginning, 18 medium eggs for 99 cents and 3.4g of protein per egg white makes 61g of protein per dollar, rounding...so, it's really 0.61g of protein per penny.

taking it a bit further...let's say your goal was to eat 300g of protein per day. you could (i'm not recommending this, but you could) eat only egg whites, and that would cost you a bit under $5.00 a day for your protein needs in total.

i guess if you don't really care about eating a buttload of cholesterol, you can get even more protein per penny out of eggs...if you ate the whole egg, you'd get 112g of protein per dollar, or 1.12g of protein per penny. 300g of protein would cost you less than $2.70.

how's that for bang for your buck?

that is crazy man
for some reason though i didnt come to realize that there is protein in the yolk of the egg.... i always toss the yolk out....

i think we got a winna here for cheap methods of getting protein.... WOW under 3 dollars... crazy!

garethhe · 11-30-2005, 12:43 PM

seriously...although to be fair, i should mention that the flip side to eating 46 whole eggs is that you'd be eating TEN THOUSAND mg of cholesterol...or about 33 times the recommended daily amount!

luke69duke69 · 12-01-2005, 11:23 AM

Um yeah. That is pretty bad. An update on the Venison... I got two deer yesterday and am having them butchered. Due to a few years in the military and jobs working out of town, and simply bad luck, I got my first buck in 13 years yesterday. Not my first deer but first buck in 13 years. Last buck I got was when I was fourteen. 5points but almost the size of the 18 and 3/4 inch inside spread of the 8 i got years ago. This one was 16 inches across on the inside, and the deer weighed just 5lbs less field dressed than my eight as well at 165lbs. Second was a doe that was about 80lbs. Lots of lean red meat there!! Emma, or anyone else that knows, is there protein and fat numbers on venison anywhere? I've seen ones for sirloin and prime rib and the likes with beef but never with venison. Just told it's one of the leanest cuts of red meat there is. I know there's more of an art to seasoning it right.

I second the notion on the eggs. Way too much cholesterol to eat 3 dozen yolks.

dougnukem · 12-01-2005, 11:31 AM

Doesn't sound like too bad of a hunting trip. Gratz!

boilermaker · 12-01-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dougnukem

Doesn't sound like too bad of a hunting trip. Gratz!

I second this. Nice job on the buck

luke69duke69 · 12-01-2005, 12:46 PM

Thanks. I ran into a friend of mine last night that's got some jerkey recipe I'm trying once i get the meat back.

camarosuper6 · 12-01-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aceshigh

oats ,,eggs,,,go fishing,,,,,or hunting,,,,,,,eat your neighbours dog,,,,,,,,rats are a good protien source,,,,,as are cockroaches,,,,,,,drink your own urine to recycle your supplements,,,,,,,,eat grass from your yard,,,,,,set a small animal trap in your yard,,,,,,,if your in canada go shoot a bear theres enough meat for a year

LOL... i seriously dont know why but I laughed hard when I read this

11-28-2005, 09:49 PM	#2
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11-28-2005, 11:37 PM	#4
Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774	i have heard about the mercury concerns, but numerous people say that this is only an issue to children and elderly people... something someone told me: CHUNK tuna is smaller fishes added together, and the smaller fish retain less mercury. SOLID WHITE ALBACORE tuna is a larger fish and apparently holds more mercury. the truthfullness of this im not sure of, but the person who told me this has lifted over 25 years one thing thats fairly cheap is natural peanut butter... i add this to almost every shake.... its cheap and gives 8g protein with some good calories and fats.... of course its bad if your dieting
Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774

11-29-2005, 10:36 PM	#20
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	Man, I better have some venison by the end of the week or I'm gonna be pissed. First week this week in PA for Deer. Going to bed now to get up for it. Venison is one of the leanest red meats out there. Also a good idea is to get a crock pot. You can cook up a lot of food and keep it warm throughout the day for your meals. Chilli with lean ground beef, just stay away from a lot of salty seasoning. I like throwing an entire chicken in and then picking at it all day. It really depends on how often you can eat the same thing. I am slowly learning to eat the same thing for a week at a time, then switching it up to something else I can eat for a week at a time.
	"I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

12-01-2005, 11:23 AM	#23
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	Um yeah. That is pretty bad. An update on the Venison... I got two deer yesterday and am having them butchered. Due to a few years in the military and jobs working out of town, and simply bad luck, I got my first buck in 13 years yesterday. Not my first deer but first buck in 13 years. Last buck I got was when I was fourteen. 5points but almost the size of the 18 and 3/4 inch inside spread of the 8 i got years ago. This one was 16 inches across on the inside, and the deer weighed just 5lbs less field dressed than my eight as well at 165lbs. Second was a doe that was about 80lbs. Lots of lean red meat there!! Emma, or anyone else that knows, is there protein and fat numbers on venison anywhere? I've seen ones for sirloin and prime rib and the likes with beef but never with venison. Just told it's one of the leanest cuts of red meat there is. I know there's more of an art to seasoning it right. I second the notion on the eggs. Way too much cholesterol to eat 3 dozen yolks.
	"I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

12-01-2005, 12:46 PM	#26
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	Thanks. I ran into a friend of mine last night that's got some jerkey recipe I'm trying once i get the meat back.
	"I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-29-2005, 08:50 AM	#6
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	Of course eggs cost a different amount in different places, but by me I can buy 18 eggs for 99 cents. That's five and a half cents per egg, and 3.5g of protein per egg (if eating only the egg white). <busting out the calculator> That's 1.4g of protein per penny. If anybody can come up with a cheaper source of protein (not counting bodily fluids), I'd love to hear it.

11-29-2005, 12:19 PM	#10
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	sorry, my arithmetic was totally wrong, by the way (i shouldn't attempt math first thing in the morning). starting from the beginning, 18 medium eggs for 99 cents and 3.4g of protein per egg white makes 61g of protein per dollar, rounding...so, it's really 0.61g of protein per penny. taking it a bit further...let's say your goal was to eat 300g of protein per day. you could (i'm not recommending this, but you could) eat only egg whites, and that would cost you a bit under $5.00 a day for your protein needs in total. i guess if you don't really care about eating a buttload of cholesterol, you can get even more protein per penny out of eggs...if you ate the whole egg, you'd get 112g of protein per dollar, or 1.12g of protein per penny. 300g of protein would cost you less than $2.70. how's that for bang for your buck?

11-29-2005, 12:26 PM	#12
NeilPearson Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,328	If you buy in bulk at Costco or other large bulk places you can get a lot for relatively cheap

11-29-2005, 12:43 PM	#13
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	i've always looked at nuts as a good source of healthy fats, and the protein as a bonus thrown in.

11-29-2005, 04:15 PM	#16
dougnukem The American Dream Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL Posts: 1,802 Photos: 6	Fishing or hunting wouldn't be a bad idea. After all, if you are a ninja, you should have no problem catching animals. But consumer wise, bulk shopping is the way to go. It's just like your supplements, the larger quantity, ends up being cheaper per/serving.

11-29-2005, 05:40 PM	#18
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,123	Yeah fishing is always good, Just dont be those people they take every fish they catch no matter the size. Plus depending where you live you might not want to eat any fish near there.

11-29-2005, 08:07 PM	#19
thajeepster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 759 Photos: 7	When anything is on sale buy big time in bulk. Whenever chicken is on sale at the local grocery, i get like 20lbs... my freezer is always stocked. Same goes for lean beef.

11-30-2005, 12:43 PM	#22
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	seriously...although to be fair, i should mention that the flip side to eating 46 whole eggs is that you'd be eating TEN THOUSAND mg of cholesterol...or about 33 times the recommended daily amount!

12-01-2005, 11:31 AM	#24
dougnukem The American Dream Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL Posts: 1,802 Photos: 6	Doesn't sound like too bad of a hunting trip. Gratz!

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