Thread: Eating late...

Yeah most definately.

If it fits into your caloric needs and you aren't competition cutting then by all means.

Although, you should rethink your sleep schedule and try to get 6-8 hours solid sleep.

Myth.....
Eat 6 small meals every 3 hours..

Depends how many carbs

Originally Posted by Jodi

Yeah most definately.

If it fits into your caloric needs and you aren't competition cutting then by all means.

Although, you should rethink your sleep schedule and try to get 6-8 hours solid sleep.

i've realized, atleast with HIT where you can't be social, its best to go at night an hour before closing time where very few people are there so thats the sleeping schedule i've adopted for a while.

arn't you in school? How can you go to bed at 2am? People these days..crazy schedules

i stay up that late reading the forums, i stay up that late doing work, i stay up that late watching tv - whatever im doing, i always end up staying awake that late.

so i choose to nap after school to get my sufficient 7-8 hours of rest per day.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

i stay up that late reading the forums, i stay up that late doing work, i stay up that late watching tv - whatever im doing, i always end up staying awake that late.

so i choose to nap after school to get my sufficient 7-8 hours of rest per day.

It is not just the hours that are important - it is the depth/quality of sleep that is important. Getting 2 short sleeps is really not the same thing as you miss out on that really deep sleep that is so vital to your health AND your BB goals...

Why not get your sleep at night and surf the forums/work in the afternoon?

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

arn't you in school? How can you go to bed at 2am? People these days..crazy schedules

I go to school, then i work til 1 am, and sleep at 2.

I eat dinner around 10PM. 65g (dry) brown rice, 1 cup veggies, 5 oz chicken breast.

Thought u were in the forced Jeep?

forces even^

There is quite a bit of information on biphasic sleep patterns over at anabolicminds if you care to dig it up. I think the concensus was that it is far better to get your 7-8 hours at once rather than to split it up.

I tend to do the same thing though anytime I have to get up at 7. I think it is best not to fight it. If you are a night person, try to find a schedule to accomodate that to where you can sleep in until at least 9 most days.

Originally Posted by thajeepster

I go to school, then i work til 1 am, and sleep at 2.

I eat dinner around 10PM. 65g (dry) brown rice, 1 cup veggies, 5 oz chicken breast.

I know this is extremely off topic but im gonna say it anyway, How do you prepare the chicken breasts? I don't imagine you have the time or patience to cook one at a time. So do you cook 5 or so at one time and keep them in the fridge?? Do you use a bbq? Conventional oven? Microwave?

Out of all my protein sources chicken is the biggest pain in the ass to prepare.

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

It is not just the hours that are important - it is the depth/quality of sleep that is important. Getting 2 short sleeps is really not the same thing as you miss out on that really deep sleep that is so vital to your health AND your BB goals...

Why not get your sleep at night and surf the forums/work in the afternoon?

i've never really needed much sleep. i've always gone to bed late. basically i nap after school just for the sake of getting more rested, but i don't really need it...

i understand what your saying, but it just fits my schedule right now to do what im doing. you don't think im getting into a deep sleep when im getting 5+ hours of sleep?

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

i understand what your saying, but it just fits my schedule right now to do what im doing. you don't think im getting into a deep sleep when im getting 5+ hours of sleep?

Probably not.

Originally Posted by leg_press

Thought u were in the forced Jeep?

Im out now, my 5 years is up. Now im going to school... i guess 5 years of slavery for 4 years of free college aint so bad .

Originally Posted by ST240

I know this is extremely off topic but im gonna say it anyway, How do you prepare the chicken breasts? I don't imagine you have the time or patience to cook one at a time. So do you cook 5 or so at one time and keep them in the fridge?? Do you use a bbq? Conventional oven? Microwave?

Out of all my protein sources chicken is the biggest pain in the ass to prepare.

I always chop mine up and stir fry it with veggies and brown rice. I never bake it.

My days actually pretty easy to prepare. I eat oats 2 times a day, so first thing in the morning i cook the oats im gonna eat for breakfast along with the oats i have later in the day. I toss in a cup of cottage cheese and some walnuts with the one im having later and store in the fridge. When breakfast is over i cook up 1 cup dry of brown rice, 4 cups veggies, and 2 chicken breasts in 1 tbsp olive oil. I divide this in two meals. and store those in tupperware. Then i mix up a shake with some dry milk and protein powder along with a little baggie of almonds. Bam, thats 4 meals ready to go, an hour or two later im out the door and set for the day.

Hey Jeepster - you're out?! Woo hoo! Congrates!

So - If you don't mind me asking - what are you studying now??

Originally Posted by thajeepster

My days actually pretty easy to prepare. I eat oats 2 times a day, so first thing in the morning i cook the oats im gonna eat for breakfast along with the oats i have later in the day. I toss in a cup of cottage cheese and some walnuts with the one im having later and store in the fridge. When breakfast is over i cook up 1 cup dry of brown rice, 4 cups veggies, and 2 chicken breasts in 1 tbsp olive oil. I divide this in two meals. and store those in tupperware. Then i mix up a shake with some dry milk and protein powder along with a little baggie of almonds. Bam, thats 4 meals ready to go, an hour or two later im out the door and set for the day.

Very good plan... I like it.

But I hope you get a little fruit with those meals too... You know - for the healthy-stuff...

Originally Posted by thajeepster

I always chop mine up and stir fry it with veggies and brown rice. I never bake it.

My days actually pretty easy to prepare. I eat oats 2 times a day, so first thing in the morning i cook the oats im gonna eat for breakfast along with the oats i have later in the day. I toss in a cup of cottage cheese and some walnuts with the one im having later and store in the fridge. When breakfast is over i cook up 1 cup dry of brown rice, 4 cups veggies, and 2 chicken breasts in 1 tbsp olive oil. I divide this in two meals. and store those in tupperware. Then i mix up a shake with some dry milk and protein powder along with a little baggie of almonds. Bam, thats 4 meals ready to go, an hour or two later im out the door and set for the day.

So what you just fast fry the breast up? I should try that...

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

Hey Jeepster - you're out?! Woo hoo! Congrates!

So - If you don't mind me asking - what are you studying now??

Im going for a major in engineering... not sure which one yet... either civil or structural.

I get fruit with my shake and i have a cup of blueberries with my oats in the morning.

Originally Posted by ST240

So what you just fast fry the breast up? I should try that...

dump the chicken in a frying pan with 1 tbsp oil.. after that cooks a while and the chicken is no longer pink dump in a bag of veggies... add whatever seasonings you like... i love curry powder, but i go for a little soy/ginger sometimes. cook it up... easy as can be... eat over the rice you made.

on a side note, if youve got the money, invest in a good rice maker. It makes everything so easy, perfect rice every time. Just make a big batch and scoop out what you need.

Zojirushi is a great brand. Heres what i have (perfect for one person)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...lance&n=284507

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

My sleep schedule is completely in a funk, so i have really enjoyed what i've been doing as of late.

i'll go to bed at 2, get up at 730, and then take a nap from 4-6 equalling 7.5 hours per day.

i'm just curious if its alright to eat my dinner at about 9 or 9:30 when im going to bed so late. people always say no carbs after six, but if im going to bed so late, can i bump it up to limited carbs after 10 instead?

Dragging this back to topic..

The 'no carbs after 3pm' rule doesn't apply to everyone. This dude is 17yo - when I was that age, the only way I could gain weight at all was to eat a ton of pasta for supper. My metabolism ran so high that it burned off everything I ate.

My advice is, if you are quite lean AND quite young, or trying to bulk, you can eat carbs late. Otherwise, generally ease off them in the last 9 hours of your day, and don't have any in the last 3-4 hours

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Myth.....
Eat 6 small meals every 3 hours..

Originally Posted by GreenMan

Dragging this back to topic..

my bad....

Originally Posted by GreenMan

The 'no carbs after 3pm' rule doesn't apply to everyone.

There is no such thing as a 'no carbs after x pm' rule. It is a myth that WILL NOT DIE no matter how hard I try to stomp on it (worse than a damn cockroach!!).

It is just like the 'no fruit' myth and the 'no dairy' myth and the 'don't eat fat with carbs' myth...

Nothing but voodoo nutrition...

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Myth.....
Eat 6 small meals every 3 hours..

Why ?
it keeps your body from going into starvation mode and conserving fat

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

There is no such thing as a 'no carbs after x pm' rule. It is a myth that WILL NOT DIE no matter how hard I try to stomp on it (worse than a damn cockroach!!).

It is just like the 'no fruit' myth and the 'no dairy' myth and the 'don't eat fat with carbs' myth...

Nothing but voodoo nutrition...

Rule.. wash my mouth out. I meant to say 'principle'.

The low carbs after 3 principle is basically good - the body handles carbs better if consumed in the morning than at night, because if you go to sleep with a bellyfull of carbs, the body has nothing better to do with it than turn it into lard.

My wife & I are both getting good results using this principle - but we don't treat it as a hard-and-fast rule. We just have a nice carb rich breakfast, a normal lunch, and try to keep carbs under about 30g for the evening meal.

Nothing voodoo about it - unlike the others you mention - no fruit, no dairy, no dat & carb together - these ARE all bollocks.

A youngster with a fast metabolism trying to put on a few pounds would be well advised to chow down pasta for supper.

Originally Posted by GreenMan

The low carbs after 3 principle is basically good - the body handles carbs better if consumed in the morning than at night, because if you go to sleep with a bellyfull of carbs, the body has nothing better to do with it than turn it into lard.

Actually it is the excess CALORIES that are turned into lard... Carbohydrates, believe it or not, unless consumed in massivo-doses over a long period of time, have a very low rate of de-novo lipogenesis... Rather, they usually result in an increase in thermogenesis/NEAT and other things (this is why you get really warm after eating a big carb meal).

Yes - carbs are better consumed around exercise/active times but the hormonal changes that occur in your body during the day (in regards to your ability to cope with carbohydrates) is not as extremee as everyone thinks it is... and it certainly doesn't mean that what you eat will turn to 'lard'... Especially if you are more active towards the end of the day...

Your body doesn't have that 'exact' type clock attached to it...


And, interestingly, when dieting, studies have actually shown that those who eat a larger, balanced meal in the evening retain more lean mass when dieting...

Just something to think about...

My wife & I are both getting good results using this principle - but we don't treat it as a hard-and-fast rule. We just have a nice carb rich breakfast, a normal lunch, and try to keep carbs under about 30g for the evening meal.


Nothing voodoo about it....

The principle works because it decreases your overall calorie intake for the day... People tend to 'snack' at night - and they will snack on lots of higher calorie foods (chips, cookies, ice-cream).... Heavy carb meals are also calorie dense (pasta, pizza, lasange etc etc)...

So if you tell them to 'cut the carbs' at night then they usually end up dropping a substantial amount of calories from their day as well.. So "just like magic" they start to lose weight!!!

To them it looks like they have lost because they cut carbs... In the real world - it is because their calorie intake decreased as a result of the nutrition shift.

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

... and it certainly doesn't mean that what you eat will turn to 'lard'... Especially if you are more active towards the end of the day...

I base the princlipe on whether those carbs are going to be burned off - or if a demand has been placed on the body which is going to soak up those carbs. A post or pre-workout meal should have carbs regardless of the time.

Low carbs in the evening works for me because I train at 7am on an empty stomach, work all day, then most evenings come home, eat my dinner & veg out in front of the telly. If I was training after work, I'd probably eat differently.

So if you tell them to 'cut the carbs' at night then they usually end up dropping a substantial amount of calories from their day as well.. So "just like magic" they start to lose weight!!!

Can't argue with that.

But it doesn't alter my belief that low carbs in the late pm are one of several useful weapons against fat, along with aerobics, reducing 'dead' fat (as opposed to the bio-active fats in fish & nuts) in the diet, and sensible use of supplements.