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Old 03-17-2006, 11:16 PM   #1
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lowering protein intake

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Has anyone experienced this? Getting more cut by lowering protein

I am 70-71 kg.
I usually eat every 2.5-3 hours having 40 grams of protein food in every meal... Im not that big , but i am well cut... I noticed something though.... My fat intake used to be small... Now i try to have just one piece of chicken (instead of 1.5-2 chicken) in each meal....and substitute these calories with fat....Either virgin oil or lean beef steak......(smaller piece-lower protein),or some almonds....
It looks to me , (pretty sure , one change in my diet allows me to see more veins in my lower abs in 2-3 days) my body cannot hold to utilize so much protein each day.I mean....come on i am just 70 kg....do I need 200 grams of protein every day? i was probably doing 60% protein 30% carbs 10% fats..... changing to 45% protein 30% carbs 25% fat would be wiser wouldnt it?

notice my carb intake.... i usually take 2 carbohydrate meals pre and post workout.......and a high carbohydrate dayl every 5-6 days if i need I have to.... ( 30% protein 60% healthy carbs 10% fats)
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:13 AM   #2
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I think the caloric intake is more of the key.

But I will say this: I used to get more than 1.5 gram of protein per pound.

For me, I think it lead to gout, which I have had a predisposition to get (genes, diet, whatever).

When I cut the protein way down, and still lifted the same way (heavy) I looked a lot better and I think I kept almost all (of course I lost some) of my muscle.

I the think our genetics also play a part.

The others on here know a lot more about me than this, though.

Over to them....



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Old 03-18-2006, 03:00 AM   #3
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I used to eat 370-350 grams of protein a day but now i only eat 200. I also used to have bad constipation from this. Your body only needs 1 to 1.5 grams of protein(Unless you take steroids). On another thought the fat not protein probably raised ur testosterone levels. When you eat fat your body sees it's not gonna starve but if you don't eat fat your body will hold onto the fat. Fat also retards the absorption rate of carbs and lowers the insulin levels in one's body, all good things. Just my two cents Fish oil capsules work wonders on body recomposition.



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Old 03-18-2006, 06:07 AM   #4
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Your body only needs 1 to 1.5 grams of protein(Unless you take steroids).
that depends on so many variables, its impossible to say
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True but do you think it's fair to say that he probably isn't active enough(running marathons so on) or taking drugs to require more?



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Old 03-18-2006, 08:25 AM   #6
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. changing to 45% protein 30% carbs 25% fat would be wiser wouldnt it?
Dont go below 20% fats or above 30%. fats are a hormore transporter. You need fats. Just make sure that they are healthy fats and split them 50% mono, 25% poly and rest sat/others.

Protein 1-1.2g per LBM is fine. No need to feed the fat in your body.

Rest of your cals come from good carb sources.
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Has anyone experienced this? Getting more cut by lowering protein.
Makes sense. Carbohydrates are protein sparring. Everyone is individual, so you'd have to fine tune the balance.

Check out what Dave Tate was eating to become a worlds class PL.....

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=971737

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Oh. My. God. Dave ate around 10,500 calories today with around 450g of fat (38%), around 1450g of carbs (54%), and around 190g of protein (7%). And this was a "good" day.
Not a great example because it's quite possibly the most artery cloggin diet I've ever heard of, but the point is, he's building huge amounts of muscle on 7% total dietary protein.
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his best lifts being a 935 squat, a 610 bench press, a 740 deadlift, and a 2205 total
He's not lean by any stretch.....so a large adjustment to his dietary balance is coming, but you definitely can get leaner on higher carbs.....look at marathoners (different physical stress and muscle fiber target mind you).
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