Thread: how much protein

You need between 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight. (2.2lbs=1kg).

It's best to split it up as evenly as you can throughout the day.

Goodluck.

VanessaNicole

Read this cool diet article, it explains exactly how much protein you should eat every day!

http://www.rippednaturally.com/incre...-lose_fat.html

Originally Posted by VanessaNicole

You need between 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight. (2.2lbs=1kg).

It's best to split it up as evenly as you can throughout the day.

Goodluck.

VanessaNicole

I agree, at the very most 2 grams per lb, no more or else you'll be flushing it down the toilet.

great thanks guys

do u have any suggestions on what to take protein shakes with i find them terrible tasting

any ideas

Man up and drink it. Try with fat free skim milk. Believe me, protein drinks aren't the nastiest tasting supplements; they're actually taste great compared to other things

so free skim milk is the best lol ?

lol, yeah I guess it would be, free anything is great. But I said "fat free"

i tried puting it in fizzy juice

ill leave u to guess what happened there

Originally Posted by jasonwilks

Read this cool diet article, it explains exactly how much protein you should eat every day!

http://www.rippednaturally.com/incre...-lose_fat.html

I really liked his article, Mainly for the fact they pointed out that protein shakes are not as useful or necessary as you may believe. When i'm cutting, i always limit my use of protein shakes and it actually makes a difference. (Not to mention that i'm a believer that whey protein is overated). Thanks for the article, i found it interesting.

Originally Posted by LoadedBats

I really liked his article, Mainly for the fact they pointed out that protein shakes are not as useful or necessary as you may believe. When i'm cutting, i always limit my use of protein shakes and it actually makes a difference. (Not to mention that i'm a believer that whey protein is overated). Thanks for the article, i found it interesting.

This guy's bulking.

It's hard to eat all of the extra lean protein calories without supplimentation from shakes.

Even when cutting, I think that protein shakes (which are basically predigested proteins) are basic for proper post workout nutrition.

VanessaNicole

(Oh, and as Stick says, fat free milk is perfect. You can add slenda and frozen berries, too when bulking.)

Originally Posted by VanessaNicole

This guy's bulking. True, and i should have mentioned it, but i was more or less agreeing with point from the article that the other person posted.

It's hard to eat all of the extra lean protein calories without supplimentation from shakes.

[B]Actually, it's VERY hard to get all the protein from whole foods. When i bulk i too use protein supps. (except i add EVolive oil to mine)

Even when cutting, I think that protein shakes (which are basically predigested proteins) are basic for proper post workout nutrition.

Here is where i dissaree with most....i find the necessity for rapid digesting whey with simple carbs to get an insulin and amino spike to be more of a supplements marketing ploy than it actually being a critical tool. For the conveniece of it while bulking or whatever, sure it can't hurt. But personally I just seemed to have never gotten any better benefit from consuming a whey and simple carb shake after a workout.....then i did from a steak/chicken or whatever, whole food meal. There are studies upon studies i'm sure to back up either side here (most of which are probably skewed studies or bias, thats a whole other topic there). But it would make more sense to me to eliminate protein powders while cutting, simply for the increase in metabolism from consuming whole foods. Eitherway, everyone's different.

VanessaNicole

(Oh, and as Stick says, fat free milk is perfect. You can add slenda and frozen berries, too when bulking.)

and fat free milk sucks

Umm...have you ever heard of catabolism?

How about "protein sparing"?

Holy cow...

And milk is excellent for anyone who's bulking. It's a disaccharide with protein.

It's also good for post workout because it has glucose and casein.

But then you don't seem too worried about the idea of your body breaking down your own lean muscle tissue for amino acids....

VanessaNicole

Originally Posted by VanessaNicole

Umm...have you ever heard of catabolism?

Yes.

How about "protein sparing"?

Yes.

Holy cow...

No...

And milk is excellent for anyone who's bulking. It's a disaccharide with protein.

It's also good for post workout because it has glucose and casein.

Ok, the milk thing was a joke. I know it's very useful. Was just kidding.

But then you don't seem too worried about the idea of your body breaking down your own lean muscle tissue for amino acids....

Ok, I wasn't trying to get into an arguement here. If 2 people consume the exact same amount of calories per day, with the same ratio of Proteins/Carbs/Fats. (and they are both reletively the same build/genetics etc.) And one has a PWO shake with whey/simple carbs etc. and the other eats a whole food meal, your going to tell me that there will be a significant difference. That one is going to reap the rewards of muscle sparing, and the other's body is going to break down it's lean tissue for amino acids? I don't buy it. If your eating the proper amounts of clean food your body is not going to be going into a catabolic state immediatly after a hard workout, hell there's still macro nutrients in your body from your previous meals.



VanessaNicole

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Nope. Right after an intense workout is exactly when the body will go into a catabolic state.

A tough workout, particularly an anaerobic workout (like weight training) depletes muscle glycogen pretty quickly (unless you're not training hard enough).

So you eat chicken or steak immediately after your workout, with high density starches? Great, good for you.

But a fast acting protein will reach the muscles more efficiently. (And who wants 30 or 40 grams of protein from chicken right after their workout? I'd much rather have a shake myself).

But I never said that whole food was bad for PWO, just that it isn't as good.

And anyway, a protein shake with some simple carbs is cheaper than a whole food meal, so it doesn't make much sense as a scam.

But hey, if you're getting the results you want, more power to you.

VanessaNicole

Good Points. I guess i am more or less saying that great results can come with out the use of protein supps, and for me, i seemed to get leaner with out them during a cut. Which i understand you were not arguing against. I know i tend to lean towards whole food mainly because i don't really care for the taste of most whey shakes (Could be my poor creativity in making them.) Anyhow, thanks for debating without hating, and i know it's been said before but, nice avatar.

Thanks.

And shakes often have a lot of calories, so you're right about that...I try to keep mine at 30 grams of protein (and then I add carbs) cause a lot of PWO meals have as much as 400+ calories and if you're cutting, that's just too many calories. So you have a good point there.

And you're right, there are some yucky tasting shakes. I like some of the ready to drink ones at the gym cause they're cold...

And splenda helps a lot too...

VanessaNicole