Male Cutting Plan...Meals

naturalguy · 10-21-2003, 03:01 PM

Insulin and spikes are quite often misunderstood. The rules change after you workout. You actually will benefit from a spike post workout and at this time and the carbs at this time do not go to fat storage like other times of the day.

Freeman · 10-21-2003, 03:12 PM

Exactly. This is why I drink aroun 40+grams of carbs, dextrose and glucose, usually in the form of Gatorade after every workout. I've noticed that it also helps with me feeling too tired to function for the rest of the day, a problem I once had. I also drink 40g of protein. But yeah, what naturalguy said is absolutely right IMO.

i h8 fat · 11-06-2003, 11:49 PM

Is this meal only recommended for serious bodybuilders?
1 whole egg and 5 egg whites seems like an excessive amount for breakfast, then u still have the 5oz. beef and 1/2 cup of oatmeal according to the 1st Meal Plan...

i h8 fat · 11-06-2003, 11:53 PM

I am 24 years old, 200lb, 5ft 7. I'm fairly active, but not a bodybuilder. I run and weight train. What I really would like to do is reduce my body fat which is mostly on my stomach.
Would you still recommend this Male Cutting Plan to me?

Freeman · 11-07-2003, 06:25 AM

I think it's a good place to start. I don't believe the eggs and meat are an issue here (not too much IMO). But, everyone is different. I'd give it a shot and see if it works. If you do this for a few weeks or whatever, and don't see ANY results, then adjust appropriately. You have to really alter your lifestyle. EVERY meal counts, so make it work!

HoldDaMayo · 11-07-2003, 08:53 PM

I'd say at that weight and height, you want to see quick results, which means just accept the fact you'll lose a bit of muscle mass... you won't really notice it... but I'd say just hit the gym very hard every other day, work your f'n ass off for an hour and cut your calories down to 2000 a day... try to get as much protein as you can while cutting down on all sugar... not necessarily carbs, but there's really no reason to eat anything with sugar in it... no soda, no candy, no treats... treat yourself with some high fiber cereal... and you will see very nice results if you stick to the basics...

i h8 fat · 11-09-2003, 08:42 PM

thanks for the responses.. what if I like to eat lots of fruit? maybe a pear or apple to go with my protein shakes.. grapes? these foods have sugar in them, and doesn't the cutting plan aim to cut out most sugars?

HoldDaMayo · 11-09-2003, 09:34 PM

when you cut you should be keeping fruit in check... so no, you can't eat lots of it... you can get away with a SMALL amount... that includes fruit juices too...

i h8 fat · 11-09-2003, 11:44 PM

rite, thanks for the help holdDaMayo. Cutting calories by taking out more sugary fruits is needed. As for flax oil, I take 1 pill in the morning and 1 at night, should I be taking more?

sli · 12-02-2003, 03:49 PM

so im down with the cuttin plan 4 the most part, but can someone give me a good alternative to eggs? seems like these things are everywhere and i cant get away from them.....basically allergic to them....

sli

**Jodi** · 12-02-2003, 04:00 PM

Just have chicken or turkey or steak instead. Protein is Protein and it doesn't have to come from eggs if you choose not to.

sli · 12-02-2003, 05:03 PM

thx jodi,

im gonna have to go with some sort o' chicken on this one.....figured it was all about the protein anywayz...

Freeman · 12-02-2003, 06:10 PM

cottage cheese is good too, if you have a taste for it...add cinnamon and splenda to make it easier to get down.

Alaric · 01-11-2004, 07:17 PM

For the first meal plan while cutting, what can I eat instead of meats, just because its hard for me to prepare it before school.

Do I even need to eat meat at the start of the day, because right now i'm 170lbs getting about 34g's of protein and carbs in per meal (2000 calorie diet).

Thanks

Cheese · 03-08-2004, 06:35 PM

Just out of curiousity. How many calories per day is your suggested meal plan DP? I am currently 188LBS 12% BF and trying to cut to 8%. I am consuming only about 1900 calories a day in order to lose the fat. Although my diet seems to be working for me right now it doesnt even get close to the amount of food (more important calories) you have listed in your plan. What kind of physical activity are you coupling with this plan if you don't mind me asking? Thanks!

sknnbns · 03-14-2004, 04:16 PM

A few questions about the Male Cutting Plan. I have been following the Bulking plan for about 3 months now and have gained about 18 pounds. I want to transition onto the Cutting plan now, as I have picked up a too much weight in the mid-section. A couple of questions.

1. What type of beef would be considered 93% lean? I take it that sirloin does not qualify, as you indicate that it would only be acceptable once or twice as week. Also, when you refer to beef, what types of cuts are acceptable?

2. When referring to frozen strawberries, do you mean freezing whole strawberries or do you mean buying them from the frozen foods section (w/o added sugar)?

3. How does one measure cups of vegetables?

4. When you refer to "9 oz can tuna or 8 oz Chicken breast
3 egg whites, 1 yolk, 1 tomato" in the second meal plan, does this mean "9 oz can tuna" OR "8 oz Chicken breast
3 egg whites, 1 yolk, and 1 tomato" or does it mean, "9 oz can tuna, 3 egg whites, 1 yolk, and 1 tomato"OR "8 oz Chicken breast
3 egg whites, 1 yolk, and 1 tomato"?

Appreciate your help. Thanks!!!!

argon · 04-12-2004, 09:33 PM

what do you mean by change the portions accordingly? im 150 looking to start cutting, im not sure what my body fay is right now, but im guessing around 12-15% any help would be appreciated, thanks!

Premo55 · 04-14-2004, 01:30 PM

I don't know who cuts at 150 pounds. This is of course, unless you're a girl, or a very short dude.

Peace.

enz · 11-04-2005, 04:37 PM

Sorry for asking but when you say
1 whole eggs + 5 egg whites
Do you mean cooked/scrambled or whatever - or like in a glass to drink :\

**Jodi** · 11-04-2005, 09:53 PM

However you want to eat it.

**Emma-Leigh** · 11-05-2005, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enz

Sorry for asking but when you say
1 whole eggs + 5 egg whites
Do you mean cooked/scrambled or whatever - or like in a glass to drink :\

Don't drink them... Well, not unless you cook it first.

Drinking raw eggs is just a waste:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=48220 (Eggs)
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=35564 (Raw Eggs)

enz · 11-05-2005, 07:54 PM

Thanks for info about the eggs =) I have another question-

Anyone have ideas on how I can take my 2nd meal during school? I was thinking an insulated container or something. I'm really interested into getting really started with this plan.

**Emma-Leigh** · 11-06-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enz

Anyone have ideas on how I can take my 2nd meal during school? I was thinking an insulated container or something. I'm really interested into getting really started with this plan.

Tupperware + cooler = easy meal transport and storage.

kicka19 · 11-06-2005, 10:09 PM

about how many cals would this plan be? i have been cutting recently but i dont think i am eating nearly nuff. im 5 '9 180-185 lbs, been working out for about 5 or 6 years. i just wana know how many cals this is ruffly

el_violento · 01-17-2006, 12:31 PM

Meal 1 threw 6 is what im suppose to eat everyday and in that order?...

**Emma-Leigh** · 01-17-2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el_violento

Meal 1 threw 6 is what im suppose to eat everyday and in that order?...

I wouldn't - not only because I don't think the foods in it are the best (whipping cream = poor choice in fats), but also because you have no idea if it has the correct calories/carbs/protein/fats for your needs...

el_violento · 01-17-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

I wouldn't - not only because I don't think the foods in it are the best (whipping cream = poor choice in fats), but also because you have no idea if it has the correct calories/carbs/protein/fats for your needs...

well what would be the proper diet for a boxer?...

el_violento · 01-19-2006, 01:57 PM

i tought i was only suppose to drink protien shakes b4 and after workouts, that means i have to workout after the 2nd meal??

Dan the tank · 01-19-2006, 07:06 PM

How many calories in this diet? cause I weight 177 and I need to see how much I need to drop.

**Emma-Leigh** · 01-20-2006, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el_violento

well what would be the proper diet for a boxer?...

What ever is appropriate for you...

You can't just follow a 'one size fits all' diet - it will not work in the long run... Everyone requirements are different (it needs to be based on your genetics, age, activity level, body fat, training, goals etc etc)...

If you post up a new thread with information about yourself (age, weight, activity, BF%, goals) and your current diet (amounts and times) then I am sure people will be able to help you out.

10-21-2003, 03:01 PM	#31
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10-21-2003, 03:12 PM	#32
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	Exactly. This is why I drink aroun 40+grams of carbs, dextrose and glucose, usually in the form of Gatorade after every workout. I've noticed that it also helps with me feeling too tired to function for the rest of the day, a problem I once had. I also drink 40g of protein. But yeah, what naturalguy said is absolutely right IMO.
	www.kingsburymusic.net

11-06-2003, 11:49 PM	#33
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18	Is this meal only recommended for serious bodybuilders? 1 whole egg and 5 egg whites seems like an excessive amount for breakfast, then u still have the 5oz. beef and 1/2 cup of oatmeal according to the 1st Meal Plan...
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18

11-06-2003, 11:53 PM	#34
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18	cont.. I am 24 years old, 200lb, 5ft 7. I'm fairly active, but not a bodybuilder. I run and weight train. What I really would like to do is reduce my body fat which is mostly on my stomach. Would you still recommend this Male Cutting Plan to me?
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18

11-07-2003, 06:25 AM	#35
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	I think it's a good place to start. I don't believe the eggs and meat are an issue here (not too much IMO). But, everyone is different. I'd give it a shot and see if it works. If you do this for a few weeks or whatever, and don't see ANY results, then adjust appropriately. You have to really alter your lifestyle. EVERY meal counts, so make it work!
	www.kingsburymusic.net

11-07-2003, 08:53 PM	#36
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	I'd say at that weight and height, you want to see quick results, which means just accept the fact you'll lose a bit of muscle mass... you won't really notice it... but I'd say just hit the gym very hard every other day, work your f'n ass off for an hour and cut your calories down to 2000 a day... try to get as much protein as you can while cutting down on all sugar... not necessarily carbs, but there's really no reason to eat anything with sugar in it... no soda, no candy, no treats... treat yourself with some high fiber cereal... and you will see very nice results if you stick to the basics...
	Are you kidding me????

11-09-2003, 08:42 PM	#37
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18	thanks for the responses.. what if I like to eat lots of fruit? maybe a pear or apple to go with my protein shakes.. grapes? these foods have sugar in them, and doesn't the cutting plan aim to cut out most sugars?
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18

11-09-2003, 09:34 PM	#38
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	when you cut you should be keeping fruit in check... so no, you can't eat lots of it... you can get away with a SMALL amount... that includes fruit juices too...
	Are you kidding me????

11-09-2003, 11:44 PM	#39
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18	rite, thanks for the help holdDaMayo. Cutting calories by taking out more sugary fruits is needed. As for flax oil, I take 1 pill in the morning and 1 at night, should I be taking more?
i h8 fat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 18

12-02-2003, 03:49 PM	#40
sli Ride The Fire Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 60 Photos: 3	so im down with the cuttin plan 4 the most part, but can someone give me a good alternative to eggs? seems like these things are everywhere and i cant get away from them.....basically allergic to them.... sli

12-02-2003, 04:00 PM	#41
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,180 Photos: 1	Just have chicken or turkey or steak instead. Protein is Protein and it doesn't have to come from eggs if you choose not to.
	Essence EFA

12-02-2003, 05:03 PM	#42
sli Ride The Fire Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 60 Photos: 3	thx jodi, im gonna have to go with some sort o' chicken on this one.....figured it was all about the protein anywayz...

12-02-2003, 06:10 PM	#43
Freeman Bearded Attacker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,648 Photos: 8	cottage cheese is good too, if you have a taste for it...add cinnamon and splenda to make it easier to get down.
	www.kingsburymusic.net

01-11-2004, 07:17 PM	#44
Alaric Hungry Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 711	For the first meal plan while cutting, what can I eat instead of meats, just because its hard for me to prepare it before school. Do I even need to eat meat at the start of the day, because right now i'm 170lbs getting about 34g's of protein and carbs in per meal (2000 calorie diet). Thanks

03-08-2004, 06:35 PM	#45
Cheese Christ in Me. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: AZ Posts: 27	Just out of curiousity. How many calories per day is your suggested meal plan DP? I am currently 188LBS 12% BF and trying to cut to 8%. I am consuming only about 1900 calories a day in order to lose the fat. Although my diet seems to be working for me right now it doesnt even get close to the amount of food (more important calories) you have listed in your plan. What kind of physical activity are you coupling with this plan if you don't mind me asking? Thanks!
	When you sit to dine with a ruler, note well what is before you, and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony. Do not crave his delicacies, for that food is deceptive. - Proverbs 23:1-3

03-14-2004, 04:16 PM	#46
sknnbns Newbie Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 2	Cutting Questions A few questions about the Male Cutting Plan. I have been following the Bulking plan for about 3 months now and have gained about 18 pounds. I want to transition onto the Cutting plan now, as I have picked up a too much weight in the mid-section. A couple of questions. 1. What type of beef would be considered 93% lean? I take it that sirloin does not qualify, as you indicate that it would only be acceptable once or twice as week. Also, when you refer to beef, what types of cuts are acceptable? 2. When referring to frozen strawberries, do you mean freezing whole strawberries or do you mean buying them from the frozen foods section (w/o added sugar)? 3. How does one measure cups of vegetables? 4. When you refer to "9 oz can tuna or 8 oz Chicken breast 3 egg whites, 1 yolk, 1 tomato" in the second meal plan, does this mean "9 oz can tuna" OR "8 oz Chicken breast 3 egg whites, 1 yolk, and 1 tomato" or does it mean, "9 oz can tuna, 3 egg whites, 1 yolk, and 1 tomato"OR "8 oz Chicken breast 3 egg whites, 1 yolk, and 1 tomato"? Appreciate your help. Thanks!!!!

04-12-2004, 09:33 PM	#47
argon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6	what do you mean by change the portions accordingly? im 150 looking to start cutting, im not sure what my body fay is right now, but im guessing around 12-15% any help would be appreciated, thanks!
argon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6

04-14-2004, 01:30 PM	#48
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	I don't know who cuts at 150 pounds. This is of course, unless you're a girl, or a very short dude. Peace.
	T DOT O.

11-04-2005, 04:37 PM	#49
enz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: IL Posts: 21	Sorry for asking but when you say 1 whole eggs + 5 egg whites Do you mean cooked/scrambled or whatever - or like in a glass to drink :\

11-04-2005, 09:53 PM	#50
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,180 Photos: 1	However you want to eat it.
	Essence EFA

11-05-2005, 07:54 PM	#52
enz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: IL Posts: 21	Thanks for info about the eggs =) I have another question- Anyone have ideas on how I can take my 2nd meal during school? I was thinking an insulated container or something. I'm really interested into getting really started with this plan.

01-17-2006, 12:31 PM	#55
el_violento Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fontana California Posts: 110 Photos: 7	Meal 1 threw 6 is what im suppose to eat everyday and in that order?...

01-19-2006, 01:57 PM	#58
el_violento Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fontana California Posts: 110 Photos: 7	i tought i was only suppose to drink protien shakes b4 and after workouts, that means i have to workout after the 2nd meal??

01-19-2006, 07:06 PM	#59
Dan the tank Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 18	How many calories in this diet? cause I weight 177 and I need to see how much I need to drop.