High Protein Diet / Beverly

cytrix · 05-04-2002, 03:42 PM

I STARTED MY HIGH PROTEIN DIET TODAY, AND AM USING FOUR PROTEIN SHAKES DURING THE DAY, AND THEN HAVE CHICKENBREAST STIRFRIED WITH OLIVE OIL AND VEGGIES AT NITE. I AM USING A PROTEIN BLEND OF CASEIN / EGG WHITE / WHEY FOR MY SHAKES. WHAT IS THE BEST RATIO FOR ANABOLISM AND ANTI CATABOLISM? THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN USING TODAY SO FAR:
15 G CASEIN / 15 G EGG / 10 G WHEY, MIXED WITH WATER AND SOME FLAX SEED OIL OR SAFFLOWER OIL AND HEAVY WHIPPING CREAM. IS THAT OK? SHOULD THE WHEY BE LOWER?

ALSO, REGARDING THE POST WORKOUT SHAKES:
DO YOU HAVE TO EAT THOSE 3-4 STRAWBERRIES POST WORKOUT, OR WOULD THE SHAKE OF JUST PROTEIN AND CREAM / OIL DO JUST FINE AS WELL?
SHOULD THE PROTEIN BE JUST WHEY AFTER WORKING OUT OR IS A BLEND BETTER ON THIS DIET?
IS THIS SHAKE AN ADDITIONAL MEAL ON TRAINING DAYS, OR ARE THE MEALS / NUTRIENT INTAKE THE SAME REGARDLESS?

I APOLOGIZE FOR SO MANY QUESTIONS AT ONCE, BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW. I TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP!!!
THANX !

cytrix · 05-05-2002, 05:48 PM

DP AND W8, PLEASE HELP!

**Prince** · 05-05-2002, 05:57 PM

My recommendation is eat more real food, at least 3 meals as food and 2 shakes.

w8lifter · 05-05-2002, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cytrix
I STARTED MY HIGH PROTEIN DIET TODAY, AND AM USING FOUR PROTEIN SHAKES DURING THE DAY, AND THEN HAVE CHICKENBREAST STIRFRIED WITH OLIVE OIL AND VEGGIES AT NITE. I AM USING A PROTEIN BLEND OF CASEIN / EGG WHITE / WHEY FOR MY SHAKES. WHAT IS THE BEST RATIO FOR ANABOLISM AND ANTI CATABOLISM? THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN USING TODAY SO FAR:
15 G CASEIN / 15 G EGG / 10 G WHEY, MIXED WITH WATER AND SOME FLAX SEED OIL OR SAFFLOWER OIL AND HEAVY WHIPPING CREAM. IS THAT OK? SHOULD THE WHEY BE LOWER?

I don't know, I can't answer this for you. But I'm curious...are you having 4 shakes in a row and then only having one whole-food meal?...Cause that ain't healthy!

ALSO, REGARDING THE POST WORKOUT SHAKES:
DO YOU HAVE TO EAT THOSE 3-4 STRAWBERRIES POST WORKOUT, OR WOULD THE SHAKE OF JUST PROTEIN AND CREAM / OIL DO JUST FINE AS WELL?

You can go w/o the strawberries, but they do offer fibre!

SHOULD THE PROTEIN BE JUST WHEY AFTER WORKING OUT OR IS A BLEND BETTER ON THIS DIET?

Again, I'm not sure, my guess would be the blended protein, but I don't know.

IS THIS SHAKE AN ADDITIONAL MEAL ON TRAINING DAYS, OR ARE THE MEALS / NUTRIENT INTAKE THE SAME REGARDLESS?

Just have your regular 6 meals a day, regardless of whether it's a training day or not.

I APOLOGIZE FOR SO MANY QUESTIONS AT ONCE, BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW. I TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP!!!
THANX !

Dr. Pain · 05-05-2002, 07:00 PM

Yes, they are correct, at least 3 solid meals, more if possible and then shakes!

With fat and fiber to control insulin surging, it is less important to get multi-species proteins, but whey mixed with egg and or casein is good!

DP

cytrix · 05-05-2002, 08:45 PM

YES, I HAVE FOUR SHAKES IN A ROW, AT 9 AM, 1 PM, 4 PM AND 8 PM, AND THEN WHEN I GET HOME AT I HAVE A GOOD POUND OF VEGGIES (BROKKOLI, CAULIFLOWER, RED PEPPERS, CELERY AND ZUCHINI) AND 8 OZ CHICKEN BREAST STIRFRIED IN OLIVE OIL AT AROUND 11 PM. THE SHAKES ARE VERY CONVENIENT AND TASTE GREAT. I LET IT ALWAYS STAND FOR A WHILE, SO IT GETS THICK. I ALSO TAKE 4 G CARNITINE, AS WELL AS A HIGH POTENCY MULTI VITAMIN AND MINERAL SUPPLEMENT PLUS EXTRA CALCIUM, SELENIUM, VIT E, AND VIT C. IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP A SALAD COLD AT WORK, SO I JUST EAT VEGGIES (A LOT THOUGH) AT NITE. I WOURK FROM 11 AM UNTIL 9 OR 1O PM DURING THE WEEK (WITH A 2-3 HOUR BREAK, WHERE I USUALLY TRAIN). I MEAN, WHY IS WHOLE FOOD BETTER THEN A SHAKE? I COULD HAVE TUNA WITH MAYO FOR EXAMPLE INSTEAD OF A SHAKE, BUT WHY WOULD THAT BE HEALTHIER? I MEAN, I DO GET MY VEGGIES IN ANYWAY? SO FAR I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ENERGY WISE, IT'S THE SECOND DAY NOW.
AND, THANX FOR YOUR REPLIES!!!

w8lifter · 05-05-2002, 08:53 PM

Protein powder is meant to SUPPLEMENT your nutritional plan, you can not rely on it solely...you're getting 1 whole food meal a deal! You can not expect any good results from this diet at all!

Like DP said, at most 3 shakes in between whole-food meals....you're not doing your body good w/ this.

cytrix · 05-05-2002, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter
Protein powder is meant to SUPPLEMENT your nutritional plan, you can not rely on it solely...you're getting 1 whole food meal a deal! You can not expect any good results from this diet at all!

Like DP said, at most 3 shakes in between whole-food meals....you're not doing your body good w/ this.

OK, I'M GONNA ADD AT LEAST A SOLID BREAKFAST, BECAUSE I TRUST YOU ALL ON THIS ONE!

05-04-2002, 03:42 PM	#1
cytrix Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: chicago, il , usa Posts: 287	HIGH PROTEIN DIET - PLEASE A FEW MORE ?? W8 / DP I STARTED MY HIGH PROTEIN DIET TODAY, AND AM USING FOUR PROTEIN SHAKES DURING THE DAY, AND THEN HAVE CHICKENBREAST STIRFRIED WITH OLIVE OIL AND VEGGIES AT NITE. I AM USING A PROTEIN BLEND OF CASEIN / EGG WHITE / WHEY FOR MY SHAKES. WHAT IS THE BEST RATIO FOR ANABOLISM AND ANTI CATABOLISM? THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN USING TODAY SO FAR: 15 G CASEIN / 15 G EGG / 10 G WHEY, MIXED WITH WATER AND SOME FLAX SEED OIL OR SAFFLOWER OIL AND HEAVY WHIPPING CREAM. IS THAT OK? SHOULD THE WHEY BE LOWER? ALSO, REGARDING THE POST WORKOUT SHAKES: DO YOU HAVE TO EAT THOSE 3-4 STRAWBERRIES POST WORKOUT, OR WOULD THE SHAKE OF JUST PROTEIN AND CREAM / OIL DO JUST FINE AS WELL? SHOULD THE PROTEIN BE JUST WHEY AFTER WORKING OUT OR IS A BLEND BETTER ON THIS DIET? IS THIS SHAKE AN ADDITIONAL MEAL ON TRAINING DAYS, OR ARE THE MEALS / NUTRIENT INTAKE THE SAME REGARDLESS? I APOLOGIZE FOR SO MANY QUESTIONS AT ONCE, BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW. I TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP!!! THANX ! Last edited by cytrix : 05-04-2002 at 06:10 PM.

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05-05-2002, 05:48 PM	#2
cytrix Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: chicago, il , usa Posts: 287	DP AND W8, PLEASE HELP!

05-05-2002, 07:00 PM	#5
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Yes, they are correct, at least 3 solid meals, more if possible and then shakes! With fat and fiber to control insulin surging, it is less important to get multi-species proteins, but whey mixed with egg and or casein is good! DP

05-05-2002, 08:45 PM	#6
cytrix Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: chicago, il , usa Posts: 287	YES, I HAVE FOUR SHAKES IN A ROW, AT 9 AM, 1 PM, 4 PM AND 8 PM, AND THEN WHEN I GET HOME AT I HAVE A GOOD POUND OF VEGGIES (BROKKOLI, CAULIFLOWER, RED PEPPERS, CELERY AND ZUCHINI) AND 8 OZ CHICKEN BREAST STIRFRIED IN OLIVE OIL AT AROUND 11 PM. THE SHAKES ARE VERY CONVENIENT AND TASTE GREAT. I LET IT ALWAYS STAND FOR A WHILE, SO IT GETS THICK. I ALSO TAKE 4 G CARNITINE, AS WELL AS A HIGH POTENCY MULTI VITAMIN AND MINERAL SUPPLEMENT PLUS EXTRA CALCIUM, SELENIUM, VIT E, AND VIT C. IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP A SALAD COLD AT WORK, SO I JUST EAT VEGGIES (A LOT THOUGH) AT NITE. I WOURK FROM 11 AM UNTIL 9 OR 1O PM DURING THE WEEK (WITH A 2-3 HOUR BREAK, WHERE I USUALLY TRAIN). I MEAN, WHY IS WHOLE FOOD BETTER THEN A SHAKE? I COULD HAVE TUNA WITH MAYO FOR EXAMPLE INSTEAD OF A SHAKE, BUT WHY WOULD THAT BE HEALTHIER? I MEAN, I DO GET MY VEGGIES IN ANYWAY? SO FAR I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ENERGY WISE, IT'S THE SECOND DAY NOW. AND, THANX FOR YOUR REPLIES!!!

05-05-2002, 08:53 PM	#7
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Protein powder is meant to SUPPLEMENT your nutritional plan, you can not rely on it solely...you're getting 1 whole food meal a deal! You can not expect any good results from this diet at all! Like DP said, at most 3 shakes in between whole-food meals....you're not doing your body good w/ this.