Thread: calories for mass building

U need carbs to build mass, it should be something like 30% protein/60% carbs/10% healthy fats. Protein rebuilds/ builds muscle, carbs give u energy so your body doesnt use the protein/ break down ur muscle tissue for energy, and the fats ( as far as I am aware) keeps ur joints supple and ur body in food working order.

O ok thanks. And just letting u know, but the fats are for hormone production which are responcibe for muscle growth and strength increases,

yeah dude eat 2500-3000cals (clean bulk) and stay at that cal rate for 2-3weeks and if you dont gain bump it up to 3000-3500cals and stay at that for 2-3 weeks and if you still dont gain(i'm 100% sure you will haha) do the same thing bump it up to 3500-4000cals but when you reach one of them you start gaining at stay at it until you stop gaining

**edit**- and when you get up to 3500-4000clas i'm pretty sure you'll be gettin over 300grams of protein and same w/carbs haha. thats what i'm at lol and i get anywhere from 320-340grams of protein and 350-400grams of carbs and my fat intake is usually always uder 90grams

Originally Posted by kenwood

yeah dude eat 2500-3000cals (clean bulk) and stay at that cal rate for 2-3weeks and if you dont gain bump it up to 3000-3500cals and stay at that for 2-3 weeks and if you still dont gain(i'm 100% sure you will haha) do the same thing bump it up to 3500-4000cals but when you reach one of them you start gaining at stay at it until you stop gaining

**edit**- and when you get up to 3500-4000clas i'm pretty sure you'll be gettin over 300grams of protein and same w/carbs haha. thats what i'm at lol and i get anywhere from 320-340grams of protein and 350-400grams of carbs and my fat intake is usually always uder 90grams

Dear lord....

I am getting shown up by a 15 year old!

Good for you man

Is it better to eat all those cals and 1 g protein/1 lb bw before working out? What are u supposed to do, like whats the best say to do this so u can build mass effectively? Should i eat 1g/1 lb of bodyweight the day before workout day plus the day of the workout before working out (in breakfast, lunch, and a snack)?

try to consume 2500-3000cals for 2 weeks and spread the cals out in 5-6 meals. i suggest mix oats in with your shakes and maybe some honey and PB and a banana. i try to drink 8-10cups of milk aday 2%milk lol. 4cups are in 2shakes of mine. welll i'm sure you dont need a food list because you prolly already know what to eat and etc. ...and get somewhere between 2500-3000 cals everday! even the weekends(which is kinda hard for me lol bc i feel like crap on the weekends) ....soo keep protein high, carbs high and fats moderate.

i have 2 shakes aday (in the morning and at night) heres what i put in mine lol. abunch of stuff

2cups of 2%milk
1cup of oats
1 banana
1 lowfat yogurt
1tbl spoon of honey
1-2tbl spoons of PB
2scoops of whey

lol thats alot of stuff but a leave a few things out sometimes lol

it won't hurt to have 1 cheat day or 2-3 cheat meals a week haha. i usually have a cheat day on sat or sunday. but its not a bad cheat day. i still try to get in the cals i need

Dude i know all that shitt, u never answer my questions u just tell me the stuff that i and everyone knows. But thanks.

Now Is it better to eat all those cals and 1 g protein/1 lb bw before working out? What are u supposed to do, like whats the best say to do this so u can build mass effectively? Should i eat 1g/1 lb of bodyweight the day before workout day plus the day of the workout before working out (in breakfast, lunch, and a snack)?

ok..i dont even get your question. what do you mean ...???

idunno maybe if i understood the question i could help. or maybe i'm just reading it wrong

i think i understand your question now. eat 3 meals before working out and 2-3 after working out.(pre/post) and you weigh 155 so 1g/1lb would be 155grams. try to get in the range of 200-250grams of protein and with carbs get 250-300grams and divide it up the same way into 5-6meals, pre and post workout.

is that the answer your looking for? lol if not

You keep your protein intake high EVERYDAY, regardless of whether you are working out or not...and your protein should be spread out evenly over all of your meals....

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

You keep your protein intake high EVERYDAY, regardless of whether you are working out or not...and your protein should be spread out evenly over all of your meals....

Ok so its ok to workout during evening even though u just had lunch and breakfast, which would probably be 3/4 of ur 1g/1 lb of bodyweight? Or should I eat alot of protein the days before and all the 1g/pound of bw protein during breakfast and lunch?

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Ok so its ok to workout during evening even though u just had lunch and breakfast, which would probably be 3/4 of ur 1g/1 lb of bodyweight? Or should I eat alot of protein the days before and all the 1g/pound of bw protein during breakfast and lunch?

Again, spread the protein out evenly over planned meals....for instance, if I'm shooting for 180g's of protein over 6 meals, then each meal should be 30gs of protein, see? Now it doesn't matter when I workout, whether it's the morning, afternoon, or evening (there may be a difference, but not in regards to the question at hand)

There is one important thing and that is that you take in some whey protein immediately after working out..then maybe eat again an hour and a half to two hours later.

Originally Posted by PWGriffin

Again, spread the protein out evenly over planned meals....for instance, if I'm shooting for 180g's of protein over 6 meals, then each meal should be 30gs of protein, see? Now it doesn't matter when I workout, whether it's the morning, afternoon, or evening (there may be a difference, but not in regards to the question at hand)

There is one important thing and that is that you take in some whey protein immediately after working out..then maybe eat again an hour and a half to two hours later.

Alright that makes sense. But what heppens when u take protein immediately after working out?

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Alright that makes sense. But what heppens when u take protein immediately after working out?

Alright, I'll try to explain what I know, but I'll probably fuck this up....

Your adrenal gland produces a catabolic hormone called cortisol during "stressful" workouts...which aids in the breakdown of old proteins so new ones can be synthesized. Well if a supply of essential amino acids aren't present when the body goes to work, you end up with less protein for muscle than when you started...

Or something like that.

Whey protein is absorbed the quickest, making it the most viable option.

So ur kind of saying something liike you'll bulk even during ur sore so eating whey protein will help speed up the process? lol sorry

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Everywhere i go i keep hearing u need to eat like a bear when it comes to massbuidling and u should eat 2000-3000 calories a day....etc. If you should be eating that many calories shouldnt they consist of more than just protein and efas? Dont carbs help in any way or are they just used for energy?

you sure are stupid for 31. Whoops your age in your avatar is not correct. Your only 15. Now I get the question. 2000 cal's are for girls trying to build mass. So if the shoe fits you know what to do.

Bulking is a few hundred calories above your maintence level so you gain a lb here or ther. Any more results in as much fat and muscle gain. 150 lb guy eat 2000 calories a day while bulking so they can fit into their sisters dresses.

Change your age back so you don't fool people with your ignorant reponses making them think that a person with experience and knowlegde is helping them.

Last thing I would want is info from a 15 yr old telling me how to diet, train or take gear.

Originally Posted by kenwood

**edit**- and when you get up to 3500-4000clas i'm pretty sure you'll be gettin over 300grams of protein and same w/carbs haha. thats what i'm at lol and i get anywhere from 320-340grams of protein and 350-400grams of carbs and my fat intake is usually always uder 90grams

kenwood - you're nuts!! At 15 there is no way you are "big" enough to need all that protein! 320-340 grams of protein a day for someone your size (I've seen your pics in your gallery) is wayyyyyyyyyy too much. It's a waste and you are potentially causing harm to your kidneys with all that protein. Unless you're atleast 275lbs of pure muscle 320-340 grams of protein is way too much - If I were you, I'd keep it under 200 grams and even thats on the upper end. Save your money (any your kidneys).

Originally Posted by cha

kenwood - you're nuts!! At 15 there is no way you are "big" enough to need all that protein! 320-340 grams of protein a day for someone your size (I've seen your pics in your gallery) is wayyyyyyyyyy too much. It's a waste and you are potentially causing harm to your kidneys with all that protein. Unless you're atleast 275lbs of pure muscle 320-340 grams of protein is way too much - If I were you, I'd keep it under 200 grams and even thats on the upper end. Save your money (any your kidneys).

your point is?...........

I was thinking it was way too much protein too. 1 gram or even 1.5 gram x your body weight. The sum doesnt come very close to what youre consuming. Overkill. And I would think that unused protein would be stored as fat.

ok i'll lower it too 230-280g.

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

So ur saying something liike you'll bulk even during ur sore (after working out) so eating whey protein immediately after ur workout is done will help speed up the process of muscle building?

lol im sorry but could someone answer this question please^^? I want to learn more about it.

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

lol im sorry but could someone answer this question please^^? I want to learn more about it.

Bulk is a diet term, so not exactly.

When your muscles are broken down they need protein to 'rebuild.' Whey protein digests and "gets to work" the fastest. This helps recovery and recovery is muscle growth. Id assume you want your muscles to grow at its fastest, yet safest route, yes? This whey concentrate or whey isolate is the way to go.

Of course, this isnt going to be light speed, but its a tried and true method. Whey protein 30min to an hour after you workout.

OK so eating whey protein immedietely or 30 minuts after working out is the best way to go? because usually ive been eating 160 grams of protein (my bodyweight is 160) all BEFORE working out so i'd be getting all the protein before bulking up and ive been seing pretty good results. Right now i really dont want the safe approach (no offense) because i have a month to build as much muscle as possible and i need the fastest way. Anything is safe for me, please dont ask.
Honestly is eating 1g/1lbs of bodyweight amount of protein so results will slowly the fastest protein diet to get big? If there is a quicker way please let me know because this is an emergency.