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05-07-2002, 04:10 PM
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diet soda as a rare treat?
for ages now i've been drinking only water all the time (and green tea every now and then)
was wondering - would a diet soda very occassionally (like once a week at the most) be ok while trying to cut? i know there's crap in there but if i was really wanting one....a bad cheat or no biggie? |
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05-07-2002, 04:12 PM
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As far as cutting diet coke has 0 calories, so I do not see how it would affect that.
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05-07-2002, 04:17 PM
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no biggie, unless you are w/in a week of a contest.
- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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05-07-2002, 04:51 PM
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Hmmm ... I down about 1 1/5 liters of Diet Coke a day ...
If were to drink that amount of Regular Coke, I would consume +/- 200 grams of sugar a day. So in that way, It gives me Cafeïne, Fizz and that other addictive stuff they put in there (but will never admit!). |
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05-07-2002, 05:01 PM
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i used to drink a lot of it myself and cut it out a few months ago.
but now i know it would fill me up at times when it isn't time for my next meal. sounds like maybe it's ok as long as i don't decrease my water intake. still seems forbidden.....i may get crazy and crack a can open any minute now. lol
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05-07-2002, 05:47 PM
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Absolutely no problem with drinking diet soda while cutting! I drink at least 3 cans per day of caffiene free diet coke right up till a week out from a contest. It keeps me sane on a diet...that and crystal light...oh, and sex!
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05-07-2002, 05:48 PM
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Country Time Strawberry lemonade .... I luv Aspartame!
- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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05-07-2002, 05:49 PM
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 Alright, that was just freaky, now we're posting at the same time in the same place???!!! Stalker!!! 
- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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05-07-2002, 05:53 PM
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05-07-2002, 06:04 PM
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you are both....precious. lol
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05-07-2002, 06:06 PM
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No sweets, you're the precious one 
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05-07-2002, 06:10 PM
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the diet coke has gone to my head. i'm giddy as a school girl.
damn - note to self. caffeine makes me happy.
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05-07-2002, 07:31 PM
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As noted in an earlier thread, GP and i are not twins, and given the Avatar and my overwhelming charm, wouldn't you say that I'm more precious, NG?
Ya' want some more caffeine? LOL
- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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05-07-2002, 07:43 PM
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I drink an occasional Diet Pepsi once in awhile. Sometimes more than I like. Trying to quit Caffine all together, but after drinking 6-8 Pepsis a day for over 3 years, its hard to go all day without at least one. Sometimes I manage.
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05-08-2002, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
(note to NG: just agree with me ok?)
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05-08-2002, 10:14 AM
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OK - gotta go with gopro here. cornfed...you almost had it there when you tried to take advantage of my overly caffeinated state. (keep those sodas coming) but then gopro mentioned his pics....and i died laughing 'cause when he posted "picture of gopros penis" i did look.....
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05-08-2002, 10:26 AM
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P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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05-08-2002, 10:36 AM
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I drink about 2 litres of diet coke a day, because it actually tastes like something and only drink water in the gym. It could be a little iffy for you if you are doing ECA stacks, since the diet coke will add more coffeine to that and you could get the jitters lol. Caffeine drains the body of water ALOT, the more coffee or caffeinated drinks you drink the more water you loose. Thats why doctors do not recommend soft drinks if you are dehydrated.
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05-08-2002, 10:38 AM
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i thought i had heard from w8 or dr. pain that diet soda can still cause in insulin spike. i'll see if i can do a search and find what they had said. i'll post here if i do.
hey gopro - apology accepted. lol
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05-08-2002, 11:41 PM
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Aspartame & Weight Loss From Betty Martini Subject Dr. James Bowen on Aspartame and Weight Loss 7-28-00 "The fact that aspartame fattens people is generally well known. We have all seen the post cards and comics that depict an overweight person with a Diet Coke in one hand while reaching for a bowl of corn chips with the other hand. The reason aspartame so strikingly stimulates the appetite is it provides over half of its content in a form of a phenylalanine isolate. The amino acid phenylalanine outcompetes all the other at enzyme sites in the body. This suppresses the formation of dopamine from tyrosine and the formation of serotonin from tryptophan. The serotonin is the neurotransmitter that reports carbohydrate metabolism. When your serotonin levels are not allowed to raise as they normally do when you eat carbohydrates you crave more and more food. The dopamine is the neurotransmitter that lets you feel satisfied, so when you use aspartame you have unsatisfiable cravings. The aspartame also poisons your metabolism so you cannot burn calories. One of the major components of the aspartame molecule is methyl alcohol. Methyl alcohol has long been recognized in medicine for its ability to block metabolism. For this reason when doctors see somebody who has been poisoned by ingesting methyl alcohol or methyl esters they can accurately predict the patient will develop a severe acidosis because the food cannot be metabolized in the normal manner and the breakdown products of the methyl alcohol in addition to the acids developed from the blocked metabolism gravely endanger the patients life. NutraSweet, is a very aggravated form of methyl alcohol poisoning. Moreover, the neuroexcitotoxins act in the brain to stimulate appetite. This is why manufacturers put it into foods. It does not actually change the taste of food at all, but the food taste better to you because your appetite has been stimulated. Arsenic is routinely included in chicken food when the chickens are being raised for meat production because it poisons the metabolism and the chickens don't burn off the calories, they turn it into fat, and thus they produce rapid weight gain for the farmer. When the FDA first looked at this molecule they held aspartame off the market for many years because it is a potent chelating agent which carries many heavy metals including arsenic into the body. The heavy metal poisoning from Nutrasweet also poisons your metabolism, blocks the burning of calories and on the long haul this virtually irreversible poisoning from heavy metals will continue to encourage weight gain." James Bowen, M.D. More information on aspartame www.dorway.com See last page of protest of National Soft Drink Assoc - on aspartame making you crave carbohydrates. Also see Dr. Sandra Cabot's position paper titled Aspartame Makes You Fatter DP |
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05-09-2002, 12:08 AM
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I am pretty much down to either one Dt. Mtn Dew or Dt. Pepsi Twist per day.
I need the break from just water. I also found something at Sams'. It's called something like, Diet Ice or something like that. No sugar, pretty tasty, cames in several assorted flavors. I think I got two friend's hooked on it. Good stuff.
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05-09-2002, 12:09 AM
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hmm, looks like I said 'I' alot....where's the team efort?!?!?
Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results
Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed |
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05-09-2002, 12:16 AM
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Never had abnormal carb cravings
 Oh well, I only drink the stuff when I'm trying to stay awake during a test or class (only so I can have a rational conversation w/ the person behind me LOL). But I still love it! I love it!!! I... I... I... ok Ryder?  (Aspartame lemonade rocks!!!) just offset the aspartame w/ ephedrine
- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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05-09-2002, 12:25 AM
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...shhhh, teachers coming! Turn around!
Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results
Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed |
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05-09-2002, 01:03 AM
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LOL
Dr Pain might keep yer arse after for some whippings LOL  Where's Crash when you need a butt for the joke! I need to either run or sleep! I'm losin' it!
- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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05-09-2002, 01:49 AM
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<insert voice of Dr Pain here>
"Cornfed! Burner! Talking during class again! If I can't stand anything, it' disturbances in MY classroom! Now drop to the floor and assume the front leaning rest position! Now, push the ground until I get tired! And boys...I ate my wheaties this morning!"
Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results
Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed |
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05-09-2002, 01:53 AM
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Burn, bro...
 did you know about DP and takin' it to guys ala "behind bars"... "deliverance" ...
- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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05-09-2002, 02:34 AM
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...no, but I am scared now...
  
Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results
Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed |
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05-09-2002, 06:16 AM
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LOL!
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