How far out should someone time their cutting for a comp?

**CRASHMAN** · 09-29-2006, 12:45 AM

whats the "norm" for bodybuilders or athletes. Say at 20% BF and 230

Imagine diet is perfect. I'm trying to gauge when to start cutting. What are your experiences, what have you heard, what is suggested? etc.

**tucker01** · 09-29-2006, 05:00 AM

based on your bf I would use 16 weeks

**Tatyana** · 09-29-2006, 05:44 AM

It is thought that anything more than 1 kg/2.2 lbs of weight loss a week indicates than lean tissue will also be lost.

I believe this translates to about 0.5 - 1 % body fat per week as well.

Men need to be around 4 - 6 % to compete.

It is really tough and tiring to lose 1 kg a week consistently for 16 weeks.

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**tucker01** · 09-29-2006, 05:59 AM

When someone starts at 20% bf they will more than likely need a longer cut period. They try to do it quicker and they begin to sacrifice LBM. Unless there are other aids being used

**JimSnow** · 09-29-2006, 08:06 AM

By what I'm learning on this site, allowing yourself to to reach that % of bodyfat seems "inefficient". You wanna loose 50 lbs.!? How tall are you?

I'm not acquainted with all the science here... but, I'd say 8 months. You're going to lose lean mass with only 16 weeks. (at least, naturally.)

This seems outside of reasonable parameters. Is it, pros?

BTW - Does a 50lb. reduction to 180lbs. (at 20% fat) easily equate to a bodyfat% of less than 10%? That's a 22% reduction in total mass. I'm confused.

**Jodi** · 09-29-2006, 08:09 AM

16-21 weeks would be my guess. But you can't cheat! This is of course if you don't plan on using anything. If you do, then that's a different story.

**CRASHMAN** · 09-29-2006, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by JimSnow

By what I'm learning on this site, allowing yourself to to reach that % of bodyfat seems "inefficient". You wanna loose 50 lbs.!? How tall are you?

5'10'' 230lbs.... I just took a long lay off and got really heavy

**crazy_enough** · 09-29-2006, 10:48 AM

I would aim higher say 20-24 weeks for a first show...U have no idea how your body will react to various stimulus, supplements, cardio, food intake etc...

**CRASHMAN** · 09-29-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Jodi

This is of course if you don't plan on using anything. If you do, then that's a different story.

Go on,..

i want details

**juggernaut** · 09-30-2006, 05:51 AM

In my first shjwo, it took me 24 weeks to lose 40 lbs. I didnt lose much in the way of lean mass, but I didnt have any carbs during the week, save for a weekend refeed of complex carbs. My second show, I came in too lean and looked like a swimmer. Damn I was pissed off. So, for the next show, I switched few things around and took 16 week sot lose about 25 lbs. I looked amazing and came in at 5% BF. The next day, I had a feast of foods delight thanks to my family, and I threw on 12 lbs overnight. But I had a great time with it: wine, macaroni, meatballs, pizza, eggplant, sausage, salad----holy shit I gotta get back to contest training!!!!

**TrojanMan60563** · 09-30-2006, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by JimSnow

BTW - Does a 50lb. reduction to 180lbs. (at 20% fat) easily equate to a bodyfat% of less than 10%? That's a 22% reduction in total mass. I'm confused.

A guy being 230 lbs and 20% BF is going to end up at 193.2 lbs if he cuts to 5% BF ad that is assuming no muscle is lost....there is other variables so its hard to give a perfect number. But that is losing approx 36.8 lbs of fat. If losing 2 lbs a week this person should be able to do this in 18-20 weeks depending on if they can keep honest with their diet.

**juggernaut** · 09-30-2006, 09:22 AM

best bet is to keep efas high andprotein higher as well to curb muscle loss.

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