Thread: Protein/fat....protein/carb

no ones got anything? not even an idea behind it?

Well alot of meals you would have all three macro's in one. It's more situational, as in for a pre (30 mins before) / post workout meal, a carb / protein will be absorbed fast, as i think fat may slow down digestion. and a fat / protein before sleep because some people don't like carbs at night / as a last meal because of the insulin spike and maybe associated fat storage. everyones different with different goals, if you mix all three i wouldn't say anything overly bad is going to happen, and if you split all the same. trial and error for what works better for you.

my quick reply.

Originally Posted by WATTS

what is the reasoning behind combining these two together than incorporating all 3 into the same meal...i know some love this type of eating and others go with all 3 macro nutrients in each meal...

does anyone know the science behind it?

There isn't much science behind it, but some swear by it. There's already a mile long thread on the subject. Have a read and decide for yourself.

Carbs and fats

Suzanne Somers actually created her whole diet around this theory...Her books (especially her first on) explains the entire science and reasoning behind all of this

I know that if I eat a strictly carb only meal, I wind up feeling like shit and rather lethargic. If I add protein and some EFAs to that, I feel much more satisfied as well as full. As a side note, when adding protein/fats, it also lowers the GI of the carbs that I am taking in. Couple this with training for a contest and you have one happy bber!!

Read the stickies.

Also note carbs and fat aren't the best to have a lot of together because carbs detract from you body's ability to assimilate fatty acids which is what ends up getting them stored in adipose tissue. This is where the carb-free fad came from. Sedentary people found that if they cut carbs completely their bodies would have to rely on fat for energy. The problem with that is there isn't enough energy and you become even more lethargic, and if you're someone who likes to train in any way shape or form just forget it.

At night fats are slowly digesting which give you the little bit of energy you need when doing all that sleep stuff like muscle repair and what not. Carbs would (like was already said) give an insulin response and your fats wouldn't get used like they need to be.

Originally Posted by Plateau_Max

Read the stickies.

Also note carbs and fat aren't the best to have a lot of together because carbs detract from you body's ability to assimilate fatty acids which is what ends up getting them stored in adipose tissue. This is where the carb-free fad came from. Sedentary people found that if they cut carbs completely their bodies would have to rely on fat for energy. The problem with that is there isn't enough energy and you become even more lethargic, and if you're someone who likes to train in any way shape or form just forget it.

At night fats are slowly digesting which give you the little bit of energy you need when doing all that sleep stuff like muscle repair and what not. Carbs would (like was already said) give an insulin response and your fats wouldn't get used like they need to be.

Err, have a look here: Muscle and Fat

Carbs would (like was already said) give an insulin response and your fats wouldn't get used like they need to be.

Even protein gives an insulin response. Eating "in general" gives an insulin response. The type of carb makes the biggest difference. It would also depend on body type, overall daily nutrition and what exactly you are trying to achieve.

Really the biggest 'issue' with carbs is more to classification. You need the majority to be Oligosaccharides and polysaccharides (complex carbs) for body composition concerns.

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You're right to a degree though....having a boat load of pasta followed by say rocky road full fat icecream would be dietary death.

Originally Posted by Gordo

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You're right to a degree though....having a boat load of pasta followed by say rocky road full fat icecream would be dietary death.

not to mention pretty frickin good!!! Actually right after a contest, that night, I engorge on 4 chocolate chip muffins from Dunkin Donuts. It's bliss I tell you!!!! So you want to talk about dietary death????

Originally Posted by juggernaut

not to mention pretty frickin good!!! Actually right after a contest, that night, I engorge on 4 chocolate chip muffins from Dunkin Donuts. It's bliss I tell you!!!! So you want to talk about dietary death????

Every two weeks or so I get two of the biggest mochas they have from starbucks. It's paradise. Please don't tell anyone though...

Originally Posted by vortrit

Every two weeks or so I get two of the biggest mochas they have from starbucks. It's paradise. Please don't tell anyone though...

secret is safe with me.....

Originally Posted by juggernaut

not to mention pretty frickin good!!! Actually right after a contest, that night, I engorge on 4 chocolate chip muffins from Dunkin Donuts. It's bliss I tell you!!!! So you want to talk about dietary death????

Sounds pretty sweet. Choco muffins Personally I'd eat the tub of Rocky Road and call it a day ice cream is my nemesis.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

not to mention pretty frickin good!!! Actually right after a contest, that night, I engorge on 4 chocolate chip muffins from Dunkin Donuts. It's bliss I tell you!!!! So you want to talk about dietary death????

Sounds pretty sweet. Choco muffins Personally I'd eat the tub of Rocky Road and call it a day ice cream is my nemesis.

At least you only have one nemesis.

My nemesis is every freaking type of food. I just eat cause I can and love it.

I should seriously seek help, I am suprised I am not a fat slob

pizza and those damn muffins are my only two real threats to my training for a contest. It these two little bastids that I ban from my house and my life until the night the contest is over.