rate this food/bread

**dontsurfonmytur** · 10-24-2006, 05:01 PM

Serving size: 1 cake

Total cal: 80

fat: 1.5 g
sodium 180mb
total carb: 22g
dietary fiber 13g
sugars 2g
protein 5g

ingredients: bran, water, white grape, whole wheat flour, blueberries, sodium bicarbonate, salt

Is this ok to have with my last meal, which includes some sort of protein and good fats. also this is a relaly good source of fiber right?

**dontsurfonmytur** · 10-24-2006, 09:55 PM

bump dman it

**StanUk** · 10-25-2006, 04:22 PM

Doesnt look too bad, but it doesnt look particulary amazing either. How much of that fat is saturated? Depending on your goals I guess its ok, only 80 calories and theres nothing particularly nasty in the ingredients.

**Jodi** · 10-25-2006, 04:30 PM

Sorry must have missed this. Yeah, it looks good. However, I would not have it at your last meal. You should really keep carbs to a minimum at your last meal. Yeah, it's has a lot of good fiber from the bran.

**Seanp156** · 10-25-2006, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jodi

Sorry must have missed this. Yeah, it looks good. However, I would not have it at your last meal. You should really keep carbs to a minimum at your last meal. Yeah, it's has a lot of good fiber from the bran.

Why is this? Is this true for those attempting to put on muscle mass as well?

**Jodi** · 10-25-2006, 04:51 PM

Doesn't matter if you are cutting or bulking, carbs in your last meal of the day releases cortisol during your sleep. It disturbs your circadian rhythm patterns because your adrenal glands will produce cortisol which will disturb your sleep. The reason that most of you all care about is: higher cortisol results in fat storage around your abdomen. Carbs in the AM and Carbs around your workouts are the best ways for building LBM.

**Seanp156** · 10-25-2006, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jodi

Doesn't matter if you are cutting or bulking, carbs in your last meal of the day releases cortisol during your sleep. It disturbs your circadian rhythm patterns because your adrenal glands will produce cortisol which will disturb your sleep. The reason that most of you all care about is: higher cortisol results in fat storage around your abdomen. Carbs in the AM and Carbs around your workouts are the best ways for building LBM.

Gotcha... So, my last meal of the day was usually a whole grain bagel with natural peanut butter and 1 cup of cottage cheese...

What should I have now? Just Cottage Cheese?

**Jodi** · 10-25-2006, 10:07 PM

Cottage cheese and natty pb.

**StanUk** · 10-26-2006, 02:19 AM

Or: cottage cheese and tuna which is what I sometimes have before bed, no carbs in tuna

**Seanp156** · 10-26-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by StanUk

Or: cottage cheese and tuna which is what I sometimes have before bed, no carbs in tuna

I don't think I could stomach cottage cheese AND tuna in the same meal

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**StanUk** · 10-27-2006, 11:27 AM

Hehe, believe it or not its not as bad as you think, its a weird combination but its actually alrite, and if you put in a few drops of olive oil you've got yourself a very good small meal with a very good amount of protein and good fat.

**obz** · 10-27-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Seanp156

I don't think I could stomach cottage cheese AND tuna in the same meal

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Toss some chopped Jalepenos and onions in it, maybe some season salt, and you'll be rockin. Tastes great.

**Triple Threat** · 10-27-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Jodi

You should really keep carbs to a minimum at your last meal.

What kind of time frame are we talking here? 1 hr? 3 hrs?

**Jodi** · 10-27-2006, 03:07 PM

I've read not after 5PM is best.

**dontsurfonmytur** · 10-27-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jodi

I've read not after 5PM is best.

oh my god, so if i go to bed at 11, i should keep carbs to a minimum after 5 pm?!?!?!?!??!?! ahhh!!!!

**Brutus_G** · 10-27-2006, 04:49 PM

Ideally pre bed meal would consist of protein from meat, green veggies , and healthy fats. Finished being eaten 1 hour before bed.

**obz** · 10-28-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

oh my god, so if i go to bed at 11, i should keep carbs to a minimum after 5 pm?!?!?!?!??!?! ahhh!!!!

I ditch carbs 3-4 hours before bed. My last meal is meat and greens only.
6 hours is even better I suppose, but I don't think it's necissary.

**CowPimp** · 10-28-2006, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jodi

Cottage cheese and natty pb.

This is what I eat too. Also, I have heard that the insulin release that results from carbs before bed isn't good because it intereferes with the body's utilization of IGF-1 (I'm guessing they both require access to the GLUT-4 cell receptors or something, just a guess though), which is an active form of GH.

**Jodi** · 10-28-2006, 04:45 PM

Excellent point CP

We should create a thread and stick it as to why one should not eat carbs before bed.

1. Circadian Rhythm disturbance
2. Increase Cortisol
3. Interferes with utilization of IGF-1

etc....

**P-funk** · 10-28-2006, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jodi

Excellent point CP

We should create a thread and stick it as to why one should not eat carbs before bed.

1. Circadian Rhythm disturbance
2. Increase Cortisol
3. Interferes with utilization of IGF-1

etc....

what if someone were to eat say, I don't know....2 bags of licorice, every Sunday (while watching football of course) and then accidently pass out. Does this count as the same thing?

**Jodi** · 10-28-2006, 04:49 PM

That would be a sugar high and then a crash and burn

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