Thread: Milk = losing weight?

Milk, inlike many liquids, is filling, when ever you get hungry, drink a glass of milk.

for me if i am hungry and dont have food around, i drink about a 1l of milk (i love milk) and i often forget i was hungry at all for a few hours.

that would be the only reason i can see.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Ive heard from time to time that drinking milk helps in losing weight. I even heard it AGAIN last night on The Biggest Loser, but they dont say exactly clearly why.

I met someone that called milk "liquid sugar." And with the nutrition facts printed on the back, it does in fact, say that the carbs are mostly lactose (sugar).

So, what is it about milk that causes this...possible myth?

I saw that too, I could never stop drinking milk reguardless. Just too good.

Other then my shakes I haven't touched milk since I was 18.

When I was a kids I would drink probably close to a litre a day.

I wrote a few paragraphs for the online magazine last year on this. Here is what I wrote.

Milk Does the Body Good

New studies suggest that calcium coming from dairy allows the body to burn fat quicker. Foods such as cheese, milk, yogurt, beans, legumes, broccoli and most dark-green leafy vegetables are a good source of calcium.

2-3 servings of diary helps burn fat. Researchers say this is because calcium stored in fat cells plays an important role in fat storage and breakdown. Low calcium diets cause calcitrophic hormones to produce which tell the body to make more fat and slow the process of using fat for energy down. Low calcium diets can slow down your metabolism. Calcium coming from dairy is shown to work twice as well for fat loss especially in the abdominal region.

Calcium is not going to make you lean as there is no magic solution. However, keeping a healthy lifestyle consisting of a good diet and exercise along with the added calcium will aid in the battle of the bulge.

some info

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15090625

Calcium and dairy acceleration of weight and fat loss during energy restriction in obese adults.

• Zemel MB,
• Thompson W,
• Milstead A,
• Morris K,
• Campbell P.

University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Tennessee 37996-1920, USA. mzemel@uk.edu
OBJECTIVE: Increasing 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D in response to low-calcium diets stimulates adipocyte Ca2+ influx and, as a consequence, stimulates lipogenesis, suppresses lipolysis, and increases lipid accumulation, whereas increasing dietary calcium inhibits these effects and markedly accelerates fat loss in mice subjected to caloric restriction. Our objective was to determine the effects of increasing dietary calcium in the face of caloric restriction in humans. RESEARCH METHODS AND PROCEDURES: We performed a randomized, placebo-controlled trial in 32 obese adults. Patients were maintained for 24 weeks on balanced deficit diets (500 kcal/d deficit) and randomized to a standard diet (400 to 500 mg of dietary calcium/d supplemented with placebo), a high-calcium diet (standard diet supplemented with 800 mg of calcium/d), or high-dairy diet (1200 to 1300 mg of dietary calcium/d supplemented with placebo). RESULTS: Patients assigned to the standard diet lost 6.4 +/- 2.5% of their body weight, which was increased by 26% (to 8.6 +/- 1.1%) on the high-calcium diet and 70% (to 10.9 +/- 1.6% of body weight) on the high-dairy diet (p < 0.01). Fat loss was similarly augmented by the high-calcium and high-dairy diets, by 38% and 64%, respectively (p < 0.01). Moreover, fat loss from the trunk region represented 19.0 +/- 7.9% of total fat loss on the low-calcium diet, and this fraction was increased to 50.1 +/- 6.4% and 66.2 +/- 3.0% on the high-calcium and high-dairy diets, respectively (p < 0.001). DISCUSSION: Increasing dietary calcium significantly augmented weight and fat loss secondary to caloric restriction and increased the percentage of fat lost from the trunk region, whereas dairy products exerted a substantially greater effect.
PMID: 15090625 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

i also read that the studies that promote dairy products as accelerating fat loss were flawed.

by no means do i say stop though, skim milk and yogurt are important parts of my cut.

Yeah most of the studies I have read are refering to obese people.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Yeah most of the studies I have read are refering to obese people.

Right, the thing is that it is difficult (pretty much impossible) to take research performend on sick people (in this case obese people) and generalize it to the entire public.

The results would probably be different if the subjects in the study only had to lose, say, 10lbs. Or they weren't obese, maybe just sligthly over weight.

Interesting stuff none the less.

Good article Jodi thank you.

So taking calcium supplements wouldnt be as good as, well, drinking milk, eh. Wonder why that is

Milk does seem filling to me too. If I dont get a last meal in at the end of the day, Ill drink a cup+ of milk and it will be enough to shut my stomach up.

I have been drinking close to 1/3 gallon of skim milk a day for probably about 2 weeks now to replace soda cravings. I didn't think about it until this thread but it is very filling since it's fairly unchuggable, unlike water in which is nice but I'm constanly chugging it so it's lots of refilling glasses and finally just eating something. I haven't lost any weight since I've started drinking milk nor have I tried, in fact I'm fairly sure I've gained weight if anything, but it still feels better having drunk it than not

yes, i wouldnt say i am losing weight from milk. but my diet for sure isnt that great

but it would explain as a kid and being younger when i was active i remained thin, all i drank was milk, milk, milk, 4L a day was normal for me, i loved the stuff, now i am probably closer to 2-3L a day.

Apart from the calcium, milk will coagulate in the stomach, forming a thick substance that will take far longer to leave the stomach than a mere fluid would.

I can't stand milk. I drink soy milk.

Enjoy those phytoestrogens.

Only thing milk is good for is calcium. It will make you gain weight and play @$## with your cholesterol level. Friend of mine drank a half gallon or more per day, doctor wanted to put him on Lipitor ( God forbid!). He stopped the milk and chol level went back to normal. Another thing about milk is that the pasteurization process oxidizes the cholesterol in it and makes it prone to clog your arteries (go study oxidized cholesterol). Now, if you drank milk straight from the cow, you wouldn't have that problem, but sooner or later would probably get some kind of disease from that. Take your calcium/magnesium/zinc and stay away from pasteurized milk is my advice.

I dont know about that. Thats ONE person versus a fixed study. There could of been other variables to cause that.

Originally Posted by djmvfc

Only thing milk is good for is calcium. It will make you gain weight and play @$## with your cholesterol level. Friend of mine drank a half gallon or more per day, doctor wanted to put him on Lipitor ( God forbid!). He stopped the milk and chol level went back to normal. Another thing about milk is that the pasteurization process oxidizes the cholesterol in it and makes it prone to clog your arteries (go study oxidized cholesterol). Now, if you drank milk straight from the cow, you wouldn't have that problem, but sooner or later would probably get some kind of disease from that. Take your calcium/magnesium/zinc and stay away from pasteurized milk is my advice.

How can you make that generalization based on the fact that your friend drank half a gallon or more of milk per day? It wasn't the milk. It was the fact that your friend is a moron. Anything in excess is not going to be good.

Let me guess the whole pastuerization thing in lines with Mercola?

No mercola on the pasteurization. Go and study Oxidized Cholesterol and where it comes from.

Originally Posted by Valias

Enjoy those phytoestrogens.

I'll take my chances.

Meanwhile, enjoy all the hormones you are probably getting from milk.

Originally Posted by vortrit

I'll take my chances.

Meanwhile, enjoy all the hormones you are probably getting from milk.

That's why you buy organic dairy products.

Originally Posted by Jodi

That's why you buy organic dairy products.

If I can find any, I will try it. They had a place, or company, that stocked organic dairy products around here, but they closed down. They may have something else around...

Horizon is sold in most regular grocery stores now.

www.horizonorganic.com

Originally Posted by Jodi

Horizon is sold in most regular grocery stores now.

www.horizonorganic.com

Well, I'm not sure if they have it or not. I go to a bigger city to shop every week anyway, so either way, I will try it.

I grew up on a dairy farm, and I just can't STAND that regular milk they sell at the store. It literally makes me sick.

Oddly enough, I don't have any problems with any other dairy products like cottage cheese, etc...

Originally Posted by Jodi

That's why you buy organic dairy products.

Ummmm what the hell do those taste like?

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Ummmm what the hell do those taste like?

Usually way better than the regular stuff.

I did buy some organic horizone fat free milk. It was actually pretty good.