Thread: 80/10/10

I've always said it was 75% diet and 25% training and genetics. So yeah, I do believe that if your diet is spot on and your training is meh, you will still get results. Diet is most important.

Im nobody but i feel intensity of your training is most important.
50 training
30 diet
20 genetics

well i dont understand what people say by genetics? like if my father was a pro body builder it would be easier for me to get results?

ok let genetics be constant IF you train and you have a crappy diet (not even enough protein) then you won't have any progress and probably you'll be in a catabolic state .....If you do any type of training and your diet is perfect and perfectly subjected to your goals you'll have a good body..

i'd say its 50/50 . 50% genetics and 50% training and diet.

genetics play a big role but unless you are a pure mesomorph everybody is the same in the speed and ability of achieving the desired results .. (I'm not talking here about competing at mr olympia..

Yeah, I think genetics carry much more weight. I know guys who just come from muscular families, train like shit, eat like shit, and are still pretty cut up and big. I don't mean 20" arms, but I'm friends with individuals who eat McDonalds twice a day, every day, drink a ton of beer, and still have a six-pack and 17" guns. It makes me sick... lol

roids do wonders lol

but yeah ecto's eat like shit and gain fat very slowly

IMO it is 45 diet 45 training 10 genteics

Oh shit its 75 % diet, minimum.

Whether u wanna gain, loose maintain, whatever, ull reach none of those goals if ure diet isnt planned and followed accordingly!

Genes are indeed a factor, for example if 2 individuals train and eat exactly the same, genes will enable the more gifted trainee.

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

Oh shit its 75 % diet, minimum.

Whether u wanna gain, loose maintain, whatever, ull reach none of those goals if ure diet isnt planned and followed accordingly!

Genes are indeed a factor, for example if 2 individuals train and eat exactly the same, genes will enable the more gifted trainee.

agreed

1- you can't reach your goal with a crappy diet even if you are a pure meso and have a perfect training plan..

2- you can reach at least 80% of your goal or even go towards it and keep improving as long you have a good diet even if you have crappy genetics and you don't train idealy.

60% diet
15% training
25% genetics

I think putting this into a percentage is stupid and cannot work.

Originally Posted by fufu

I think putting this into a percentage is stupid and cannot work.

I 99% agree.

I would say about 60% diet, and then 20/20 between training and recovery.

Honestly. who cares. To even put a percentage on it is silly.

I agree with P-funk here, Who cares? so long as you are achieving your goals then what is the point?

Not like you can change your Genes (Yet), Just eat right for you and train..

i think its 100% dedication to your training and diet plan

there i said it
it has everything to do with your motivation and discepline to stay on track

I've got clients getting results with utterly shit diets.

Everyones different, thats all there is to it. Everything is imporant.

Originally Posted by slip

I've got clients getting results with utterly shit diets.

Everyones different, thats all there is to it. Everything is imporant.

If they are new to lifting weights then they'll get results under any condition , but later on it's impossible to get results on a bad diet i think.

I think the importance of putting a number on it is to show people just how important your diet is. Most people think training is the most important and diet comes second and this is false.

Thank you Jodi - I for one was under the assumption the diet was the most important - that was my reason for starting this, to see how many people agreed... or disagreed.... or thought it was stupid..

All are inhibiting factors and can't possibly be weighed in percentages. Don't eat enough, you won't grow. Don't train, you won't grow.

Like musclepump said.

Genetics can alter these number greatly.

75% diet 25% training Depending on genetics. IMO.

If you have great genetics..It can all be bunk and some people just naturally are lean, cut and big. Jerks...