Thread: Attempting to cut for the first time

Originally Posted by Thunderbison

I wanna be the man, so I'm going on a cut. Tell me how it looks please, and maybe I'll let you be the man (or woman) too...

Age - 24
Weight - 190
Bodyfat ~10-12%
Training experience - a couple years
Goal - 6-7% bodyfat within 5 weeks
Name - Steve (Bison)


Meal 1 (8AM) -
4oz lean ground beef
1 whole egg + 3 egg whites
1/2 cup oatmeal

good

Meal 2 (11AM)
Protein shake w/ heavy cream & 4 strawberries
How much cream?

Meal 3 (2PM)
8oz chicken breast
1/2 cup brown rice
1-1/2 cup broccoli
Add in some olive oil

Meal 4 (5PM)
same as meal 2
add in some fish oil

Meal 5 (8PM)
Can of tuna
Tablespoon of mayo
celery
Is that safflower mayo?

Meal 6 (11PM)
Casein protein shake, no fat or carbs added
Add in some more fish oil
Sleep (11PM-730AM)



Today's fitday came out to : 2100 cals, 81g fat, 87g carb, 262g protein
This is approximately 50%P, 35%F and 15%C

Is there anything glaringly bad about this plan? I plan on switching it up a bit halfway through my diet (3 weeks in). Thanks so much.

Steve

See my comment in bold. You also need to add a bit more veggies. Throw in a salad with your chicken meal or something.

Too much heavy cream. 1 meal with it is fine but not 2.

Where is your PWO?

Thanks for the quick reply Jodi.

I usually work out at 8pm, get home around 10pm or so. I will remove heavy cream from one of the shakes. When i DO use the cream, it's 2 fl oz.

I don't know what safflower mayo is. I just use the crap in the jug, haha. As for all fish and olive oil, what purpose does that serve? Thanks so much.

P.S. - Do you think my bodyfat % goal is possible in the given amount of time or close to it? Thanks again...

Steve

Go to the Guide To......stickies at the tip of the D&N forum and read about EFA's and why they are so important That will answer your question on the fish oil and olive oil.

Check out your health food store for safflower mayo. Don't buy the crap at the grocery stores.

I can't give you an answer on that. If you have never cut before then you don't know how your body is going to respond, and I certainly don't know either

My body is a fine specimen, it will react greatly to everything (positive thinking)...

Thanks for your help Jodi.

Don't take this the wrong way, but your goal is terrible. I'm also 24yrs 190lbs and around 12%bf, if I can drop my body fat by 2-3% before the end of June, I'll be extatic.

Your approach is simply too much of a nosedive. I'm eating around 3,000 calories per day and I'm starving. I can only imagine how you feel like. The way I see it, you put yourself in a very heavy caloric deficit. Aside from losing a LOT of muscle in the process of your cut, you're also psychologically working against yourself. Such heavy restriction will really test your discipline and you're constantly going to be tempted to binge until one day the discomfort you endure will make your goal not worth persuing.

Buttom line, slow it down and make it sustainable.

Thanks for the advice.

I've been maintaining my weight at about 2500-2700cals/day for a couple months now, so i think 2100-2200 is a good target for ME. Maybe you have a higher metabolism than I do.

Also, previous to starting this workout, i was a carb JUNKIE, so i think since I'm cutting back the carbs so dramatically, I should see substantial changes in my body composition.

As for lack of discipline? That doesn't exist in my head. If I set my mind to something, I stick with it.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how my body reacts...

The way I see it 87grams of carbs a day basically just screams ketosis. Sure, you will lose the fat, but a lot of muscle will go too.

To comment on the above. My new diet I just re-vamped with Jodi last week is 2500-2800kcal and I'm 234lb 6'1" on a cut. I'm at a about 23%BF right now.

The point here is that people are all different. I'm not even hungry let alone starving on 2500kcal. In my previous diet I was at 2100kcal which still didn't make me feel starving, but was felt that it was too low for fat loss without sacrificing muscle mass. I've only been on the new meal plan for a week roughly. So its too early to tell just yet.