Thread: Minimum protein / cal a meal?

at the end of the day, calories in vs. calories out.

Originally Posted by P-funk

at the end of the day, calories in vs. calories out.

I still don't understand that. Everyone says that...But then we have threads asking what kind of rice is better, what's the best bread?

If its calories in / calories out...Why not just eat subway, and protein bars all day?

Because those cals are different than clean healthy cals like you're probably talking about.

"at the end of the day, calories in vs. calories out." determine body-weight.
However, "macronutrient composition, timing and training" determine body composition.

You choose.

Personally, I prefer this choice!

However, "macronutrient composition, timing and training" determine body composition.

The cal in vs cal out just bothers me because it's not an accurate portrayal of what really goes on in the body.

And body-weight change can be muscle-weight, fat-weight or water-weight. Bathroom scales can't tell one from another.

That said, the body is quite flexible in terms of macros. Provided there are sufficient Essential Amino Acids, Essential Fatty Acids, Vitamins, Minerals, co-factors, fibre etc present and there are sufficient Carbs to fuel the workouts, it should be possible to cut or bulk by tweaking the total number of kcals/day.

Originally Posted by Jodi

Personally, I prefer this choice!



The cal in vs cal out just bothers me because it's not an accurate portrayal of what really goes on in the body.

you're right. a calorie is a calorie, up to a certain point. You have to have proper macronutrient intake in order to realize your true potential wrt the goal you are trying to achieve.

what i meant in this instance is that if he is taking in"x" amount of calories per day (for whatever his goal is), it doesn't matter if he splits that meal in half (since he is up for a longer period of time). In the end, if he were to add another meal, that would increase his calories more substantially and push him away from the proper intake that he is seeking for his goals (for dieting this would be a problem. For gaining, not so much).

if that makes sense.