Thread: No Whey No Way

There is a number of blanket things I try to get across to people that apply here. The first one is the synergistic characteristic of natural food.

Natural food is the best way for the body to get nutrients not only because they're going to lack the man-made chemicals introduced in fabricated supplements, but because the makeup of the food, how much of what type of nutrients it has in it, will be the perfect ratio thus maximize the efficiency of it's digestion. For instance eating an orange and getting vitamin C, will be much more readibly digested and passed through the body than consuming an equivelant vitamin C supplement in pill form.
So yes protein does need certain amounts of other nutrients to bond to such as a carbohydrate, which is why you won't get nearly the effectiveness from your protein say you're consuming egg protein with water (egg protein's calories are almost 99% protein cals), as opposed to if you were eating chicken.

The second is the trial and error path to success for everyone's dietary needs. Everyone's bodies are so much different than each others that no one's going to be able to say "this works for me so it's going to work for you" your age, weight, lineage, where you live, allergies... all come in to affect how well you will react to certain things in your diet.

Protein powders will provide good digestible protein for your body to use but your body will thank you if you try to get a lot of your main protein consumption from natural sources like chicken, fish, soy, etc.

Oh and let's not forget that there are several studies done which conclude the positive useful effects of using whey protein powder supps. Here's a good one Whey Protein for Fat Loss

The Whey To Weight Loss!

Originally Posted by Plateau_Max

There is a number of blanket things I try to get across to people that apply here. The first one is the synergistic characteristic of natural food.

Natural food is the best way for the body to get nutrients not only because they're going to lack the man-made chemicals introduced in fabricated supplements, but because the makeup of the food, how much of what type of nutrients it has in it, will be the perfect ratio thus maximize the efficiency of it's digestion. For instance eating an orange and getting vitamin C, will be much more readibly digested and passed through the body than consuming an equivelant vitamin C supplement in pill form.
So yes protein does need certain amounts of other nutrients to bond to such as a carbohydrate, which is why you won't get nearly the effectiveness from your protein say you're consuming egg protein with water (egg protein's calories are almost 99% protein cals), as opposed to if you were eating chicken.

The second is the trial and error path to success for everyone's dietary needs. Everyone's bodies are so much different than each others that no one's going to be able to say "this works for me so it's going to work for you" your age, weight, lineage, where you live, allergies... all come in to affect how well you will react to certain things in your diet.

Protein powders will provide good digestible protein for your body to use but your body will thank you if you try to get a lot of your main protein consumption from natural sources like chicken, fish, soy, etc.

Oh and let's not forget that there are several studies done which conclude the positive useful effects of using whey protein powder supps. Here's a good one Whey Protein for Fat Loss

I have to apologise. ... because I think what you just said here... is total b.s. and you quite clearly don't understand the performance output in the difference.
It's nOt just about weight loss!!... it's about better health and function and asthetic appeal alllround!.

If I haave to use Onnnly whole food sources to get adequatly nourished to feeeed my workout... then I 'm not going to shIt done!.. becauuse it's all just there ( with everything ellse about it) sitting in my gutt :/...
becaause whole foods have so much excess b.s. that we cant use and don't need and aren't looking for in terms of " am only eating for fuel and nothing else neccesssary thank you " !:/ .... f*ck offf I can't get better vit c intake by condensed sources btw!!. i stake my health aaand professional cred on it as a smoker ( and get equally f*cked being on my ass about it btw)on that verrry thing!!! ( becauuse smoking inhibits or crowds oxygen suppply and iron which carrrries oxygen and needs vit c to lift and move it and get to absorb.. while for each puff it heats your kidneys and lifts shit off your ..bits that need shit lifted off... remembering that protein ( as in the shit in your bloood collecting your toxic poisons in the form of lymphocytes and lymphnodes) seperates in hot temps ( asss your body miight produce during working times) and congeals during cold times ( like ... relax time thereafter)..
who tf can affford to listen to " plays it safe at so-so dont think any further " advice???!!!

...I hate that shit!..

or maybe not ... but I doooo know that people build lives and logic onnn that crap!!

really... lovvvvve supplements. ( !!!!!!!!! ... and god bless america .!)

If someone could produce a series or even One siingle case study example of where someone has achieved world class achievement in regard to exercise / specific sport or bb competition withouuut a supplement.. then i 'm going to have words to god.. aaand the gods and godesses of science !..and I'm not even a christian!!

Honestly . my dad aside at national pre-worlds but for my muum telling him there would bee no worlds if he wanted to stay with her ..does anyone know of anyone who's got that far without them???

Any takers welcome!

p.s. thx to Prince for the article. ...
I like it . :/..

P.p.s. don't want to sound like a pompous idiot so .. that's what I said.

Blooming tianshi Lotus.

well i'm only 14 (almost 15) and started working out last november. i mean this is just to get into shape, not to become a body builder. i dont use any pills or steroids or stuff like tht but i was wondering if it was ok to use whey protien in a shake mayb once or twice a day? i mean i'm only 14 and dont wanna damage my body.

tis fine.

Originally Posted by BringDaBlitz94

well i'm only 14 (almost 15) and started working out last november. i mean this is just to get into shape, not to become a body builder. i dont use any pills or steroids or stuff like tht but i was wondering if it was ok to use whey protien in a shake mayb once or twice a day? i mean i'm only 14 and dont wanna damage my body.

okay. well in that case I guess I was a little frank anyway .

Personally i think it's an awesome choice to do that at your age.
My cousin started about your age and lifted big and he 's about 25 now and could BB himself!.
If you're worried about potentially damaging your body though I just suggest that you always make sure you protect your liver and kidneys and heart with a good water intake ( as daily as possible) and always try to bring in something carbonated to drink.. like soda water which will not only stop you from getting nitrogen toxic and keep your blood clean but because of the potassium in soda waters, and what too heavy protein intake can do to slow down your blood pressure ( probably from gooping up your blood if you don't break it down and flush properly) will regulate your kidney function ( water and heat control centre) and keep your heart pumping strongly enough to get that blood through your body...providing you keep rethinning it out with
things that 'll break down the proteiny globs ( lymphocytes that collect together to make lymphnodes ( clusters of toxins that are better in the one lump or groups of to flush than all throughout your body mucking with the general quality of your blood ) and yes they are a gooood thing and yes everyone has them .

Oh and I don't know if I'd recommend the wine to you to do that but lots of fruit and veg and things like lemon juice and watermelon and alternating the temperature of your fluids as regular thing should help you out too.

2 full size serves is pretty enthusiastic for a begginner at your age..
I have a 14 yr old baby myself and if it were her I think I'd probably get her to try 2 - 3 x half serves max and adjust from there. .. aand if she wanted to be that serious probably do a multi vitamin for the stuff she was going to omit as she cleaned up and adapted her diet around that and instead of eating so many whole foods to need to get them. .. but we're kind of over acheivers like that .

Some of the men here might advise you different but I 'd like to see you adjust the resst of what your eating around that.
Good luck with it.

Blooming Lotus.

In keeping with the idea of using supplements in general, this link from a guy who doesn't financially benefit from supplement companies but understands their value; apparently the FDA is seeking to heavily regulate even the most mild supplements through a docs prescription...anyone heard this?


Jon Benson.com :: FDA Threatens Your Freedom