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vortrit · 04-29-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zonaguy03

does celery have any nutritional value??

Celery is good as far as I know. I think it's pretty low cal and def won't hurt on a cut, etc. You'd have to look it up on fitday or something. Personally I hate it. Not because it's bad, I just don't like the way it taste.

zonaguy03 · 04-29-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vortrit

Celery is good as far as I know. I think it's pretty low cal and def won't hurt on a cut, etc. You'd have to look it up on fitday or something. Personally I hate it. Not because it's bad, I just don't like the way it taste.

Same here, had to put peanut butter on that b****, then i caught myself eating the peanut butter out the jar it was so bad.

vortrit · 04-29-2007, 10:43 PM

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Same here, had to put peanut butter on that b****, then i caught myself eating the peanut butter out the jar it was so bad.

Really? I love peanut butter. Usually I'll mix some vanilla caesin into it really good and it's like a peanut butter cookies although a bit crumbly.

zonaguy03 · 04-29-2007, 10:47 PM

never heard of it, what is it and where can i get me some?

vortrit · 04-29-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zonaguy03

never heard of it, what is it and where can i get me some?

Any health food store, or you can buy it online.

zonaguy03 · 04-29-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vortrit

Any health food store, or you can buy it online.

Lately, for weights I've been doing reps of 12-10-8-6. What is another rep sequence i could switch up to to trick my muscles and build a little more muscle?

vortrit · 04-29-2007, 11:27 PM

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Lately, for weights I've been doing reps of 12-10-8-6. What is another rep sequence i could switch up to to trick my muscles and build a little more muscle?

I'm not really the person to ask about weight because I usually have a lot of questions but I did drop sets like that for awhile, then went to 3x10. You could change it each week.

Week 1 - 3x10

Week 2 - 3x12

Week 3 - 4 x 9

Or something like that.

zonaguy03 · 04-29-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vortrit

I'm not really the person to ask about weight because I usually have a lot of questions but I did drop sets like that for awhile, then went to 3x10. You could change it each week.

Week 1 - 3x10

Week 2 - 3x12

Week 3 - 4 x 9

Or something like that.

Did you increase weight for each set? Maybe ill just go 12-10-8-6-4. I only do 3 to 4 exercises per body section (i.e. 4 for back, 3 for bi's). Anyway im passing out. New coach is coming in tomorrow, got to be ready. Talk to you later.

vortrit · 04-29-2007, 11:38 PM

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Did you increase weight for each set? Maybe ill just go 12-10-8-6-4. I only do 3 to 4 exercises per body section (i.e. 4 for back, 3 for bi's). Anyway im passing out. New coach is coming in tomorrow, got to be ready. Talk to you later.

Yeah, I usually increase the weight each set. 4 sets is A LOT for back!

zonaguy03 · 04-29-2007, 11:46 PM

I do seated rows, lat pull down, and the reverse peck deck. makes 3 sorry. How do you figure out your body fat%? not that BMI equation right?

vortrit · 04-29-2007, 11:52 PM

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I do seated rows, lat pull down, and the reverse peck deck. makes 3 sorry. How do you figure out your body fat%? not that BMI equation right?

I usually get pinched.

vortrit · 04-30-2007, 12:00 AM

Also I would highly reccomend wide grip pullups over lat pull downs if you can do them. Chins would be good too.

Malley · 04-30-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vortrit

I'm not really the person to ask about weight because I usually have a lot of questions but I did drop sets like that for awhile, then went to 3x10. You could change it each week.

Week 1 - 3x10

Week 2 - 3x12

Week 3 - 4 x 9

Or something like that.

Not exactly real good.

How long have you been resistace training?

Something in 3 week cycles would be better.

Wk1-3 Endurance-2x15-45 sec ri tempo-3/x/1
Wk4-6 Hypertrophy-3x8-60-90 sec ri tempo-2/x/1
Wk7-9-Strength-3x5-120 sec ri tempo-Controlled
Wk10-Take the week off.

Really need to pose this question in the training forum you will get much better advice. But this is an ok loading pattern.

vortrit · 04-30-2007, 10:18 AM

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Not exactly real good.

How long have you been resistace training?

Something in 3 week cycles would be better.

Wk1-3 Endurance-2x15-45 sec ri tempo-3/x/1
Wk4-6 Hypertrophy-3x8-60-90 sec ri tempo-2/x/1
Wk7-9-Strength-3x5-120 sec ri tempo-Controlled
Wk10-Take the week off.

Really need to pose this question in the training forum you will get much better advice. But this is an ok loading pattern.

Of course. And exactly the reason I clearly stated: I'm not really the person to ask

Plateau_Max · 04-30-2007, 02:22 PM

I heard paint chips are good.

EWI · 04-30-2007, 02:23 PM

Going back to your diet... it looks real weak on "real food protein" I would use your Whey only for just after your workout and instead eat some tuna, egg whites, chicken, etc... at the other times

zonaguy03 · 04-30-2007, 02:32 PM

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Going back to your diet... it looks real weak on "real food protein" I would use your Whey only for just after your workout and instead eat some tuna, egg whites, chicken, etc... at the other times

So have the chicken breast and milk as my last meal of the day. Do whey protein after a workout. Now I do my cardio at night, will i be able to do whey after that or stick with oats, yogurt, and skim milk?

Malley · 05-01-2007, 01:09 AM

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Of course. And exactly the reason I clearly stated: I'm not really the person to ask

Yeah I know this.

vortrit · 05-01-2007, 01:15 AM

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Yeah I know this.

How sweet. Too bad your married and I'm not gay.

<--- although that smily might be.

Malley · 05-01-2007, 01:18 AM

Dont sweat it I will send for a hooker.

vortrit · 05-01-2007, 01:19 AM

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Dont sweat it I will send for a hooker.

Exellent!

EWI · 05-01-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by zonaguy03

So have the chicken breast and milk as my last meal of the day. Do whey protein after a workout. Now I do my cardio at night, will i be able to do whey after that or stick with oats, yogurt, and skim milk?

I assume the reason you are doing cardio is to cut fat and probably you haven't really stressed muscle too much so the protein you get from your oats and milk are probably fine. Also, there is nothing wrong with mixing it up a little from time to time... whey one day, oats+ another...

Why aren't you doing early morning "fasting cardio" ?

Also, I would try to get some real food protein in as late as possible (just before going to bed) this will help raise metabolims slightly as you sleep... it will also provide a longer term protein source thus stabablizing blood sugar levels throughout most of the night. The reason this is important for building muscle and blasting fast is that when your blood sugar levels drop then your body will begin storing fat and digesting muscle (both are bad - right?) so if you have a slow... long acting real protein source working in the body... your blood levels will stay more stable and you will have an anabolic rest and recovery (sleep) rather than a catabolic one. It's ok then to start fasting the last few hours of the night which again makes for a prime "fasted cardio" state 1st thing.

zonaguy03 · 05-01-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EWI

I assume the reason you are doing cardio is to cut fat and probably you haven't really stressed muscle too much so the protein you get from your oats and milk are probably fine. Also, there is nothing wrong with mixing it up a little from time to time... whey one day, oats+ another...

Why aren't you doing early morning "fasting cardio" ?

Also, I would try to get some real food protein in as late as possible (just before going to bed) this will help raise metabolims slightly as you sleep... it will also provide a longer term protein source thus stabablizing blood sugar levels throughout most of the night. The reason this is important for building muscle and blasting fast is that when your blood sugar levels drop then your body will begin storing fat and digesting muscle (both are bad - right?) so if you have a slow... long acting real protein source working in the body... your blood levels will stay more stable and you will have an anabolic rest and recovery (sleep) rather than a catabolic one. It's ok then to start fasting the last few hours of the night which again makes for a prime "fasted cardio" state 1st thing.

couple questions on that:

1. can you briefly define 'fasting cardio'
2. would a few chicken breasts with skim milk be a decent last meal before bed?

3. I've heard that people shouldnt eat after 6-7PM. Now my deal is that I do get my 6 meals in per day to keep metabolism going. Should I also stick to this idea of time also or shake it off?

vortrit · 05-01-2007, 12:24 PM

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couple questions on that:

1. can you briefly define 'fasting cardio'
2. would a few chicken breasts with skim milk be a decent last meal before bed?

3. I've heard that people shouldnt eat after 6-7PM. Now my deal is that I do get my 6 meals in per day to keep metabolism going. Should I also stick to this idea of time also or shake it off?

I think he means cardio in the morning on an empty stomach. Personally, I'd never do anything on an empty stomach.

zonaguy03 · 05-01-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vortrit

I think he means cardio in the morning on an empty stomach. Personally, I'd never do anything on an empty stomach.

Oh, I heard that's bad, but I don't know why so that's why I was asking

jamie1888 · 05-01-2007, 03:16 PM

I asked this same question in another thread.. basically, I get up first thing in the morning and head right to the gym; there's only about 30 minutes from the time I wake up to the time I start working out. The general consensus is that I should eat something before I workout... Basically, your body has gone all night without food; so you should feed it!

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jamie1888 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California Posts: 77	I asked this same question in another thread.. basically, I get up first thing in the morning and head right to the gym; there's only about 30 minutes from the time I wake up to the time I start working out. The general consensus is that I should eat something before I workout... Basically, your body has gone all night without food; so you should feed it!