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    hello again ive been reading more and this is my new diet for a 40/40/20 split going of purely caculations off the stickes ive worked out that my matinence going off body weight is at 2600 cals I have yet put that to the test. im aming to cut as ive said before.

    meal 1
    2 egg whites
    1 whole egg
    1 cup of muslie + glass skim milk
    Whey protein shake + glass skim milk
    1 table spoon flaxseed oil

    Meal 2:
    1 slices whole grain bread
    Apple
    1 chicken breast round 113g, 4 0nces
    1 cup of mix veggies


    Meal 3 pre workout
    1 slice whole grain bread
    1/2-cup mix veggies
    1 tin tuna in water 75g

    : Post workout
    Whey protein shake + glass of skim milk
    Creatine

    Meal 4:
    Chicken breast 8 ounces 226g
    1 mix cup of veggies


    Meal 5
    1-cup cottage cheese low fat
    1 serve of light peanut butter



    Calories Eaten Today
    grams cals %total
    Total:
    2339
    Fat: 50 448 20%

    Carbs: 256 887 39%

    Protein: 231 923 41%

    what are some opinions thanks

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    any response ????

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    Stats?

    What was your diet like up to this point?


    Ditch the bread. More EFA's

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    stats currently 184 pounds matinence 2500,2700,cals aming to cut bit more

    Diet befor wasent to any plan just started this 3 weeks ageo seen good results so far


    more EFAs u recon i got fish oil tabs add 2 of them or so ?? bread how come u dont recomend ??

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    have a cup of brown rice instead of the bread
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    what bout fish oils how many should i have. fit day dont have them in ther so how do u know how high your fat is once u add them

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    2 fish oils on meal 2 1 cup brow rice meal 3 anything else

    meal 1
    2 egg whites
    1 whole egg
    1 cup of muslie + glass skim milk
    Whey protein shake + glass skim milk
    1 table spoon flaxseed oil

    Meal 2:
    2 x tabs fish oil
    Apple
    1 chicken breast round 113g, 4 0nces
    1 cup of mix veggies


    Meal 3 pre workout
    1 cup brown rice
    1/2-cup mix veggies
    1 tin tuna in water 2.6 ounces 75g

    : Post workout
    Whey protein shake + glass of skim milk
    Creatine

    Meal 4:
    Chicken breast 8 ounces 226g
    1 mix cup of veggies


    Meal 5
    1-cup cottage cheese low fat
    1 serve of natural peanut butter

    this hasent got fish oils added so my EFA's will be higher

    Calories Eaten Today
    grams cals %total
    Total: 2264
    Fat: 46 410 19%


    Carbs: 241 828 38%

    Protein: 234 936 43%

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    You need more fish oils than 2 caps. Try at least 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivesy191 View Post
    what bout fish oils how many should i have. fit day dont have them in ther so how do u know how high your fat is once u add them
    1 fish oil cap. only has 9-10 calories, generally (as fish oil caps are usually 1 gram.)

    Jodi, why 6? That seems like a lot.

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    Ok say i have 4 fish oils is there any other Recommendations to my diet




    what i was meaning with the fish oils was see how i have 46 grams of fat 19% thats without adding 4 fish oils so ill have 50 grams of fat but i wont know what % my fats are at because fit day dont have them..

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    IainDaniel hates bread with a passion.

    You say whey shake + glass of skim, does that mean your shake is whey mixed with skim or are you drinking that seperate? That's a lot of cottage cheese haha, if you really like it great but for taste reasons I myself switched to Casein protein powder.

    Look Jodi is right about having more EFAs, think of it this way. Just about everywhere you look people are saying you should have 2 grams per day for all the benefits of it blah blah blah. Really when it comes down to it, sure you'll get the added benefits but in the sense that 2 grams is more like an RDA. If you look at all other vitamin RDAs, they're very very low compared to what an optimal amount would be. The RDA for Vit C for example is about 60mg per day, this is actually more like the minimum amount you'd need to keep from getting sick, when in all reality you should be getting closer to around 2,000mg per day.

    SO, with that said, 2 grams is playing it safe, but 6-8 grams will really show the benefits you're after. Just make sure you spread it out enough to make it effective. It's fat soluble (duh) so it's not like you're going to lose any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivesy191 View Post
    Ok say i have 4 fish oils is there any other Recommendations to my diet




    what i was meaning with the fish oils was see how i have 46 grams of fat 19% thats without adding 4 fish oils so ill have 50 grams of fat but i wont know what % my fats are at because fit day dont have them..
    Add it as a custom food. One capsule is one gram of polyunsaturated fat for purposes of tracking on fitday.

    Thanks, PM...makes sense. Wichita represent!

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    After re reading what u wrote i understand much beta your heaps smart where u learn all that on RDAs for vitamins and what dose that mean im guessing recommend daily amount or somthing.

    A lot of feed back on peoples diets are you need more EFA's ok so is there a certain amount you shoud be having for your body weight or like u said above 6 to 8 grams will really show the benefits you're after. So Out of my 46grams of fat i eat each day 6 to 8 of them need to be EFAs so say 6 fish oils is 6 grams and a table spoon of flaxseed oil is {2 grams just saying} would that be heaps of EFA's for a daily intake.


    And for the question on Whey + skim milk no not seperate i have a glass of skim milk with a 30g scoop of whey in it .

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    Any one else know their EFA's can answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by depaul View Post
    Jodi, why 6? That seems like a lot.
    If each fish oil capsule contains 180mg of EPA & 120mg of DHA, there's only 300mg of long-chain omega-3 fats in each capsule. As 2g/day of long-chain omega-3 fats is a reasonable intake, this is why 6 to 7 capsules/day are required.

    If stronger capsules are available (e.g. 330mg EPA & 220mg DHA), then only 4 of the stronger capsules/day are required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigeepoo View Post
    If each fish oil capsule contains 180mg of EPA & 120mg of DHA, there's only 300mg of long-chain omega-3 fats in each capsule. As 2g/day of long-chain omega-3 fats is a reasonable intake, this is why 6 to 7 capsules/day are required.

    If stronger capsules are available (e.g. 330mg EPA & 220mg DHA), then only 4 of the stronger capsules/day are required.
    Gotcha. Is there a reason you chose 2g EPA+DHA? As far as I know there is no RDA so just wondering if this is from some studies you've read or what you base this on. Thanks

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    Thanks nigeepoo that was explained very clear now one more question when some one showes you their diet how do u tell if they have enough EFA's?? they say 6 to 8 grams is the best amount how do u measure flaxseed oil,Sun flower Oil ect" because they are measured in mills so 15ml table spoon = how many grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depaul View Post
    Gotcha. Is there a reason you chose 2g EPA+DHA? As far as I know there is no RDA so just wondering if this is from some studies you've read or what you base this on. Thanks
    I plucked the figure of 2g out of the air. I gather that there is a GDA for EPA+DHA of ~0.45g/day but as omega-6 intake is high nowadays due to modern animal feeding methods, large cereal, nut & seed (except flax) consumption and widespread use of sunflower, corn, peanut & soya oils, I reckon that 0.45g/day is totally inadequate. Any amount of Fish Oil up to 15g/day is safe, see Fish Oils
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    gee, that sounds alot like the "zone diet"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ivesy191 View Post
    Thanks nigeepoo that was explained very clear now one more question when some one showes you their diet how do u tell if they have enough EFA's?? they say 6 to 8 grams is the best amount how do u measure flaxseed oil,Sun flower Oil ect" because they are measured in mills so 15ml table spoon = how many grams.
    Fat has a density of 0.9g/ml, so 15ml of flaxseed oil weighs 13.5g and contains ~7.83g of alpha-linolenic acid, see Fresh Hemp Foods Limited | Feburary 01/01

    Omega-6 EFA intake is hard to judge as it's in so many things (meats, poultry, eggs, milk, cheese, grains, nuts & seeds except flaxseeds). I don't advise using safflower, sunflower, corn, peanut or soya oils unless your fat intake is very low as these oils contain much more omega-6 than omega-3 EFAs. Cheers, Nige.
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