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Old 06-15-2002, 12:32 PM   #61
 
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WTF has this turned into?
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Old 06-15-2002, 09:30 PM   #62
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Originally posted by john992 Athlete Protein intake ranges from 1.2-1.6 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight.
You keep on using kilograms here how much does that compare to lbs???

Chicken Daddy, puleeezzz no small print! I can't read it sooo small! thanks!
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1kilogram = 2.2 pounds



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Figuring out someones exact numbers over the net is a difficult and practically impossible thing to do. All we can do is give them knowledge pertaining to what they are looking for, however to give one exact numbers is completely irresponsible and dangerous. Equations are the safest way to go in this case. And referring them to their nearest health professional.
dangerous ?

health professional..would this be the same MD's that say creatine is unsafe (along with most bb supps) and that being over you BMI is unhealthy regardless of your bodyfat ?



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health professional..would this be the same MD's that say creatine is unsafe (along with most bb supps) and that being over you BMI is unhealthy regardless of your bodyfat ?
Definetly not the same MD's. WHo are they? BMI IS an indicator for mainly non-athletes and is widely accepted as that....as for creatine, the studies are still young, and so is the product (1992 was the first documented use). Long term effects of the supplement have yet to be discovered....creatine is an amino acid derivative which makes it a completely natural substance. However, taking creatine in mega doses while supplementing may have adverse effects. Im neither for or against creatine supplementation as there are no studies that have been finalised (long term).
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I was wondering who you were referring to who is qualified to give out such information...

what do you consider a mega dose of creatine ?



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After reading about 20 posts i had to interrupt.

Is 10 liters of water a day not enough to rid of the toxins?

Do BB and fitness chics not take antioxidants to rid of these toxins?

All i know for sure is that with .7 grams of protein for gaining muscle just DO NOT do it for me. Now that i have upped my protein to 1.35grams per bodyweight (130lbs), i am putting the muscle on.

My motto is. "look and learn from the people you admire and hope to look like" and they will take you to where you want to go in life.

Do your own research and know what you are getting yourself into. This is your body and no one should tell you what to do. Try doing the .2 grams of protein and see how you feel. Results? I don't think so!

I have read many medical reports that tell you unheard of ideas. Do you believe everything you read?



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Well J'Bo, the body makes uric acid and ammonia anyway, but the theory is that having the body produce more than "usual" makes undue stress on the liver/kidneys to get rid of the stuff.

Antioxidants combat oxidising free radicals. I don;t think uric acid or ammonia actually "attack" with oxygen, so will be uneffected by antioxidants.

Water does dilute the toxins to some degree, however.



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Brief article at espn linking Creatine to cancer: http://espn.go.com/gen/news/2001/0124/1036782.html
John WTF does creatine have to do w/ the topic of protein rich foods!

Stick to the topic at hand or I'll close this fuking post! you've already pushed your luck w/ me! Don't start your fuking bullshit over here!
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Don't add any more creatine info in this thread!

I split the thread, if you want to add stuff about creatine go here! (Creatine & Cancer)
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the topic of creatine was brought up w8, sorry.
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After reading about 20 posts i had to interrupt.

Is 10 liters of water a day not enough to rid of the toxins?

Do BB and fitness chics not take antioxidants to rid of these toxins?

All i know for sure is that with .7 grams of protein for gaining muscle just DO NOT do it for me. Now that i have upped my protein to 1.35grams per bodyweight (130lbs), i am putting the muscle on.

My motto is. "look and learn from the people you admire and hope to look like" and they will take you to where you want to go in life.

Do your own research and know what you are getting yourself into. This is your body and no one should tell you what to do. Try doing the .2 grams of protein and see how you feel. Results? I don't think so!

I have read many medical reports that tell you unheard of ideas. Do you believe everything you read?

I agree, there are so many researches going on, and everyone has their different opinions, I got too confused who to listen to, so I just tried different things until I found something that I was happy with.
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