Thread: Just how good is spinach?

I would try to vary your veggie intake.

There are so many yummy veggies out there, why are you limiting yourself to just a couple, and most of them are low carbs as well.

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Ive been told that eating raw spinach is bad for you cause it contains some chemical or something. Tastes better cooked ne wayz.

Originally Posted by sensamilia

Ive been told that eating raw spinach is bad for you cause it contains some chemical or something. Tastes better cooked ne wayz.

Could you get a reference for this? I have never heard of it.

Originally Posted by Tatyana

I would try to vary your veggie intake.

There are so many yummy veggies out there, why are you limiting yourself to just a couple, and most of them are low carbs as well.

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I know, but its simple.. and has lots of vitamins in it. I dont want to spend more time than I already do cooking lol..

I know its good to vary, but my question is "is it detrimental if I dont?"

It's an organic chemical called Oxylates. Spinach hast the highest amount of any veggie and it can block absorption of iron and calcium. If you ever get that funny feeling on your teeth after eating spinach, then that particular batch is especially high in oxalates.

Jake, I would have more variety in your veggies.

Originally Posted by PreMier

I know, but its simple.. and has lots of vitamins in it. I dont want to spend more time than I already do cooking lol..

I know its good to vary, but my question is "is it detrimental if I dont?"

The more you cook, find different recipes, etc, you will find the prep time and being organised gets easier.

Make a huge pot of vegetable stew with a combo of veggies (there are stacks of fibrous ones you can put together), and then freeze some.

Add you chicken or turkey breast later.

Actually something like a chicken and leek stew freezes well.

You will be limiting your progress by only eating a narrow range of foods IMO.


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Well, I eat lots of red meat(steak/roast only), ground turkey, chicken(breasts), and every once in a while fish(usually salmon or halibut). Thats my protein sources, for carbs its oats(always), and then I switch back and forth between sweet potato, and brown rice(long grain).

So its the veggies that im not eating enough of. So here is the list Jodi put up, I guess I will start to diversify(bold)

Alfalfa Sprouts
Artichoke Hearts
Arugula
Asparagus
Avocado
Bamboo Shoots
Bean Sprouts
Beet Greens
Bock Choy
Broccoli
Brussel Sprouts
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Celery
Celery Root
Chard
Chicory
Chives
Collard Greens
Cucumber
Dandelion Greens
Eggplant
Endive
Escarole
Fennel
Hearts of Palm
Jicama
Kale
Kohlrabi
Leeks
Lettuce
Mache
Millie lettuce
Mushrooms
Okra
Olives
Onion
Parsley
Peppers
Radicchio
Radishes
Rhubard
Sauerkraut
Scallions
Snow Pea Pods
Sorrel
Spinach
String beans
Summer Squash
Tomato
Water Chestnuts
wax beans
Zucchini

But dont these hav additional kcals in them? or should I not worry about it?

EVERYTHING has calories in it. Unless it is some WEIRD lab/chemical beverage.

I would suggest you look up some of the values, you will be very surprised at how low most of them are, even for things like baby new potatoes.

There are a few on-line calorie counters, I really like calorieking, I think a lot of people also use one called fitday.

You can also pick up a calorie counting book.

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I use fitday, as well as nutritiondata.com

I guess i should have been clearer in the last question. Dont things like zucchini and squash(summer) count as carbs? And avocado too much fat?

Originally Posted by PreMier

I use fitday, as well as nutritiondata.com

I guess i should have been clearer in the last question. Dont things like zucchini and squash(summer) count as carbs? And avocado too much fat?

YES CARBS AND FAT ARE BAD

DON"T EAT THEM.

Not all carbs, fats and protien are equal. Otherwise you could just eat suger filled donuts with a cheeseburger all day and get ripped.

I think you need to read a bit more about nutrition mate.

This is one large zucchini:

Nutrition Facts
Calories 52(Kilojoules 216)

% DV**
Total Fat 0.6 g 1%
Sat. Fat 0.1 g 1%
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 32 mg 1%
Total Carbs. 10.8 g 4%
Dietary Fiber 3.6 g 14%
Sugars 5.6 g
Protein 3.9 g
Calcium 48.5 mg
Potassium 846.3 mg
Note: A dash indicates no data is available

You obviosly arent understanding my question, or im not clear.. I know about nutrition.. jesus christ. I want to know if the carbs from the list I posted are negligable or not. I eat spinach as a filler.. so if Im hungry I eat as much as I want, same with broccoli. For example if I ate 10 avocados a day, that wouldnt be beneficial for me.. I know that. But being high in fats it will put me over my caloric intake or I will have to cut things down in other areas.. and im not willing to do that at this point.

Im not a fucking retard, dont talk to me like one.. I dont appreciate it. Infact close this thread, all I wanted to know about was spinach anyway.. and this post gave me the info I needed to not eat so much of it.

Originally Posted by Jodi

It's an organic chemical called Oxylates. Spinach hast the highest amount of any veggie and it can block absorption of iron and calcium. If you ever get that funny feeling on your teeth after eating spinach, then that particular batch is especially high in oxalates.

Jake, I would have more variety in your veggies.

Jake You do need to count the fat in avocados yes. They are a healthy fat and very beneficial. As far as all of the other veggies, don't worry, the calories and carbs are negligible as they are just fibrous veggies.

Thank you

I can't remember the brand name but I get the six pound bag of mixed frozen veggies at costco, are those good? They seem healthy enough to me although the brocolli always turns this pale green color, I don't know if that means anything.

Originally Posted by gsxrK3

I can't remember the brand name but I get the six pound bag of mixed frozen veggies at costco, are those good? They seem healthy enough to me although the brocolli always turns this pale green color, I don't know if that means anything.

It means they don't have as much vitamin C in them. How are you cooking them?

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Originally Posted by PreMier

You obviosly arent understanding my question, or im not clear.. I know about nutrition.. jesus christ. I want to know if the carbs from the list I posted are negligable or not. I eat spinach as a filler.. so if Im hungry I eat as much as I want, same with broccoli. For example if I ate 10 avocados a day, that wouldnt be beneficial for me.. I know that. But being high in fats it will put me over my caloric intake or I will have to cut things down in other areas.. and im not willing to do that at this point.

Im not a fucking retard, dont talk to me like one.. I dont appreciate it. Infact close this thread, all I wanted to know about was spinach anyway.. and this post gave me the info I needed to not eat so much of it.

Sorry if I came across that way, I am dieting for a comp, so low carbing it, just started.

I count the carbs, fat and protein in EVERYTHING I eat when I am dieting.

AND there are a lot of retards asking questions on forums

SO, more advanced answer, as Jodi pointed out, fibrous veg does not have much of an impact.



There is a 'metabolic' requirement in digesting some foods. To digest protein, it takes up about 20% of the calories of the protein ingested, with carbs, it can vary depending on if it is a whole grain (10%) to celery, which burns more calories than are in it to digest it. With fat, almost 100 % of the calories are used.

So yes, avocado, even though it is a fruit, is very calorific, however, it is REALLY GOOD FAT.

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Understandable, good luck with your comp

I have a rice cooker that steams veggies as well. Maybe if I take them out earlier they won't do that.

Originally Posted by gsxrK3

I have a rice cooker that steams veggies as well. Maybe if I take them out earlier they won't do that.

Yes.

There are some veggies I like frozen, and some that I think are really YUCKY once they have been frozen, broccolli is one of them.

If you can handle it.....................

The tip I was given when studying macrobiotics, is that broccolli should go from the typical green colour to a light bright green, not the olive green, that would suggest overcooking.

That you broccolli is pale, it would suggest it has lost even more pigmentation (chlorophyll).

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Originally Posted by Jodi

It's an organic chemical called Oxylates. Spinach hast the highest amount of any veggie and it can block absorption of iron and calcium. If you ever get that funny feeling on your teeth after eating spinach, then that particular batch is especially high in oxalates.

Jake, I would have more variety in your veggies.

Everytime I eat spinache i get that feeling on my teeth. DAMN!

Spinach is delicious, never give it up because of a feeling on my teeth

Originally Posted by PreMier

Well, I eat lots of red meat(steak/roast only), ground turkey, chicken(breasts), and every once in a while fish(usually salmon or halibut). Thats my protein sources, for carbs its oats(always), and then I switch back and forth between sweet potato, and brown rice(long grain).

So its the veggies that im not eating enough of. So here is the list Jodi put up, I guess I will start to diversify(bold)

Alfalfa Sprouts
Artichoke Hearts
Arugula
Asparagus
Avocado
Bamboo Shoots
Bean Sprouts
Beet Greens
Bock Choy
Broccoli
Brussel Sprouts
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Celery
Celery Root
Chard
Chicory
Chives
Collard Greens
Cucumber
Dandelion Greens
Eggplant
Endive
Escarole
Fennel
Hearts of Palm
Jicama
Kale
Kohlrabi
Leeks
Lettuce
Mache
Millie lettuce
Mushrooms
Okra
Olives
Onion
Parsley
Peppers
Radicchio
Radishes
Rhubard
Sauerkraut
Scallions
Snow Pea Pods
Sorrel
Spinach
String beans
Summer Squash
Tomato
Water Chestnuts
wax beans
Zucchini

But dont these hav additional kcals in them? or should I not worry about it?

do you have something against veggies that aren't green?

i like buying the kind of vegetables where you can just take the bag and throw it in the microwave and the bag steams them perfectly.

i get a couple bags of green beans, broccoli, peas, and a few others that i cant think of. takes like 5 minutes to steam them and theyre done.

then Glad also makes steam bags and i just put frozen vegetables in those, toss it in the microwave and make them real quick. like cauliflower and a couple other veggies. works great. think you can also put certain kinds of other food in these too, like fish or chicken. not sure tho.

either way the steam bags have been convenient for me