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    Diet Foods Causing Weight Gain??

    Just saw this article on the news - what do you guys think? I use artificial sweetners and i can understand the theory behind the research. Anyone else had this effect?

    'Diet' foods weight gain puzzle

    Artificial sweeteners instead of sugar are widely used to lose weight
    A study which showed that rats fed on artificial sweetener still put on weight has baffled researchers.
    Scientists from Purdue University in the US now believe that a sweet taste followed by no calories may make the body crave extra food.

    Their research, published in the journal Behavioral Neuroscience, found that rats fed sugar subsequently had lower appetites.

    But nutritionists say that low-calorie sweeteners are still best for health.

    'The data clearly indicate that consuming a food sweetened with no-calorie saccharin can lead to greater body-weight gain'
    Purdue University researchers

    Conventional wisdom says that, as part of a calorie controlled diet, artificial sweeteners can help people lose weight or keep it off.

    But the Purdue study turns that wisdom on its head.

    They gave different yoghurt to different groups of rats, some sweetened with sugar, and some with saccharin.

    They were then given a plentiful supply of food, and the researchers observed the results.

    The saccharin-fed mice ate more calories, put on more fat, and gained more weight than their sugar-fed counterparts.

    They did not make any attempt to cut back on their food later to regulate their weight.

    Sweet expectations

    The researchers wrote in the journal: "The data clearly indicate that consuming a food sweetened with no-calorie saccharin can lead to greater body-weight gain and adiposity than would consuming the same food sweetened with higher calorie sugar."

    One theory, they said, was that, in normal conditions, the arrival of a sweet taste in the mouth helped prime the metabolism for the arrival of a calorie-heavy, sweet meal into the digestive system.

    When the meal does not arrive, they said, the body may get confused and have more trouble regulating its appetite when other food is around.

    They said that if this were the case, other low-calorie sweeteners such as aspartame, sucralose and acesulfame could have a similar effect.

    A spokesman for the British Nutrition Foundation said the study findings were "interesting", but did not prove that artificial sweeteners could be counterproductive in dieting humans.

    "This needs far more research - as studies in humans have shown that low-calorie sweeteners can help people lose weight."
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    Wow, shock, gasp, news!

    Sorry for the sarcasm but feeding rats aspartame is actually a patented method of making the critturs fat for obesity research.

    It screws up the hunger-regulating part of the brain, though aspartame is much worse than sacharin or whatever it's called, as it actually damages that part.

    I was actually thinking of starting a thread on this topic but decided against it as I can't be bothered to dig up all the facts and debate about it - but would certainly suggest you do some research on this yourself. There's a lot of controversy over aspartame especially (think L-glutamine and asparic acid, which by the way is a mainstay of many protein shakes).

    Yes, you'll find plenty of sites stating it is safer than a safer thing inside a house. I'll just give a few points to ponder on:

    Coca cola and other drink makers tried to have the stuff banned as their research suggested it was dangerous. Can we say "brain damage"?

    At least one, I think two, of the FDA's own researchers wrote public letters of protest when the FDA decided it was safe after all - this being just after a certain Donald Rumsfied became CEO of the company that makes it.

    You'll hear it is the "most tested" or "most studied" of all foodstuffs. Sure. Now consider that the research was so sloppy and in places outright fake that for the first time in the FDA's history they were going to bring criminal charges - until the company hired the top prosecutor as a well-paid lobbyist. The case collapsed as it ran out of time while finding a replacement.

    The artificial sweetener is a tiny little tab - but the industry is worth over a billion bucks a year. That kind of money easily pays for favorable "science".

    If you think the FDA wouldn't foist crap sweeteners on you to protect business, ask yourself why you have fructose corn syrup, the most fattening sugar I know of, in virtually everything? Because of anti-trade tarffs against real but foreign sugar.

    Also ask yourself why stevia is so hard to find, and why you may not have even heard of it? It's a natural plant 300 times sweeter than sugar, zero calories. It scared the crap out of the sugar industry and is banned. Why? Because it hasn't been tested and proven safe. Forget that the Japanese and some other Asian nations have been scoffing it for decades, forget that in South America it's been consumed since historic records began, it's not proven safe, see?

    So yeah, aspartame is "safe" and "heavily tested" and maybe you even believe that. Me, not so much.

    Final point, before someone waves a "look, this study sez it's safer than safe!" post at me. Guess what percentage of complaints to the FDA involve aspartame, of all the things people could complain about?

    1%?

    Nope.

    5%?

    Nope.

    10%?

    Nope.

    Think more like 70%.

    But it's safe, so ignore me, I'm someone on the internets.


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    Stevia leaves such a nasty aftertaste though

    Need something better than splenda for my coffee though.
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    Yeah, thanks for that Biggly, but it was more the psychological effect of 'sweet taste but no calories' that i was interested in.

    Im sure everyone knows how dangerous aspartame is.
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    I have read stuff, but never really looked into how these no calorie sweeteners fool the body. Does an insulin release actually occur, when the body is fooled into thinking it is receiving an energy source (sugar).

    I am not really suprised. But haven't read anything further on it.

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    I also heard the same thing on the news, interesting..

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    Im sure everyone knows how dangerous aspartame is.
    Hardly, it's guzzled by the ton, especially in fizzy pop. Some protein shakes use it to keep carbs down but make whey taste nice.

    Regarding if it causes an insulin release I'm not sure but there are many more homones and reactions that take place for hunger, not to mention insulin sensitivity which will be blunted if you're releasing it without any sugar to play with. So yes a good question but the complexities of how the body deals with hunger are immense and they are indeed connected to the brain. If your brain, via taste buds, thinks you're eating sugar when you're not all sort of things can go screwy. For a start you'll produce more spit, as that's needed to break down carbs - and you get that just by looking at carbs let alone a taste signal.


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