Fish oil capsules

Emmett52 · 04-14-2008, 08:32 AM

I bought some fish oil capsules and have no idea regarding the dosage or even quality of them as they only cost £4 (bout $6 0r $7) for 90 capsules

called lifespan omega 3 concentrated fish oils with vitamin e

Here is the nutritional info:
Per capsule: Pure Fish Oil - 1000mg, of which Omega 3 fatty acids represent 300mg (EPA is 180mg, DHA is 120mg, Vitamin E is10mg)

Good or bad quality? what is the other 700mg made up of?

How many would you recommend per day (if any, i would buy better quality if needed to) and how should i calculate their calorie content per capsule in order to factor it into my daily intake

Im going low carb for the next 2 to 3 weeks to lose body fat, so im increasing my essential fat intake and protein intake

Cheers in advance

Witchblade · 04-14-2008, 08:49 AM

Don't worry about the caloric content, unless you're competing or something.

Quality depends on brand, but you should be able to assume it's good. Price-quality relation depends on available alternatives. The other 700mg are probably gelatine or something similar.

The answer depends on your specific diet, but 10 capsules for ~3g of combined DHA/EPA works for most people. Take 5 after a slow digesting meal at day and another 5 after your slow digesting meal before bed.

Smoo_lord · 04-14-2008, 08:58 AM

1 gram fat = 9 cals

the rest of the stuff would probably be omega 6

i take about 6 a day, 3 in morning and then 3 before sleep

Emmett52 · 04-14-2008, 09:08 AM

does that make them poor quality if the rest is omega 6, just like an honest opinion whether i should stick with this brand or seek an alternative, have read that omega 3 to omega 6 ratio should be 1:1 and that too much omega 6 can be a bad thing

so each capsule contains roughly 9 grams of fat then?

**IainDaniel** · 04-14-2008, 09:15 AM

It is fine. There will be other Mono, poly and saturated fats in fish oil.

The only thing you can look for is a competent manufacturer, so that the oils aren't wrecked during production.

6-9 a day is fine.

**Built** · 04-14-2008, 09:19 AM

I take 10 a day, trickled in with meals.

I take 'em first though, and bury them with the meals. No fish burps.

**IainDaniel** · 04-14-2008, 09:21 AM

Entric coated are meant to help with fish burps. I dunno though, I have never had that problem.

**Built** · 04-14-2008, 09:22 AM

I'm too cheap to pay extra LOL!

Emmett52 · 04-14-2008, 09:23 AM

would less be required on a day that i eat a salmon fillet then

**IainDaniel** · 04-14-2008, 09:24 AM

I always take the same. Really you are splitting hair here.

Emmett52 · 04-14-2008, 09:28 AM

ok, cheers for the advice!

**Built** · 04-14-2008, 10:34 AM

I agree with Iandaniel - I take the same every day. If I get more some days because I ate salmon or omega 3 eggs, that's wonderful.

Emmett52 · 04-14-2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchblade

Don't worry about the caloric content, unless you're competing or something.

so if take 3 capsules 3 times a day, (9 total) my essential fat intake from the capsules alone would be approx? i just like to know for curiosity sake and to understand what im taking and learn, rather than blindly go along with advice

im always told "you wont learn if you dont ask"!

**IainDaniel** · 04-14-2008, 10:45 AM

I count the calories if you are cutting. Assuming you use 10.... That is 90 cals.

Witchblade · 04-14-2008, 12:04 PM

Oh I just noticed the content is 1000mg of fish oil, not a 1000mg capsule. The others in this thread are right that the other 700mg are other fats and the caloric content equals 9 cals per capsule. So you can add 90cals to your diet by default, if you're counting.

My bad.

**IainDaniel** · 04-14-2008, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchblade

Oh I just noticed the content is 1000mg of fish oil, not a 1000mg capsule. The others in this thread are right that the other 700mg are other fats and the caloric content equals 9 cals per capsule. So you can add 90cals to your diet by default, if you're counting.

My bad.

You are forgiven

Witchblade · 04-14-2008, 12:09 PM

Please don't hurt me.

danzik17 · 04-14-2008, 05:33 PM

Be VERY careful of the brand that you choose. One brand that I was buying from Stop and Shop spiked by liver enzymes to 3-4 times their normal levels when I got my blood tested - they only went back to normal after I stopped taking that fish oil.

Nothing bad happened, but maybe I just got very lucky.

**Built** · 04-14-2008, 05:34 PM

What caused that? The spike?

danzik17 · 04-14-2008, 05:40 PM

Don't really know. I kind of assume the fish oil wasn't pure, maybe mercury or something. All I know is I kept cutting out things one at a time and the enzymes only starting normalizing when I dropped the fish oil.

biggfly · 04-14-2008, 05:50 PM

Alot of brands will put the purity level on there...if that means jack shit, I don't know. Mine say 99.99% purified fish oil for whatever that is worth...

Emmett52 · 04-15-2008, 02:12 AM

decided to bin the capsules i bought yesterday, they seem like poor quality as they were only £4 (about $7.80) for 90 and there is very little info on packaging regarding source or anything other than ingredient which says fish lipid concentrate (containing omega 3 fatty acids) and capsule shell, the directions are 1 to 2 capsules per day and in bold it says do not exceed recommended intake (which would only give me 0.36g of epa and 0.24g of dha per day), they dont seem right so gonna fork out and buy a bottle of fish oil, have read a good reputable review on the one i intend getting

**IainDaniel** · 04-15-2008, 06:55 AM

Carlson's fish oil is good stuff.

Emmett52 · 04-15-2008, 07:02 AM

i got eskimo-3 omega fish oil, google brought this up:

"A recent survey by the Food Safety by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland examined a range of popular European fish oil capsules for the presence of dioxins. Alarmingly, one of the products tested showed the dioxin level to be five times the maximum limit.
Eskimo-3 stable fish oil was found to have the lowest levels of contaminants, which included dioxins and dioxin-like PCB’s. Concentration of heavy metal contaminants such as cadmium and mercury was below detection levels in Eskimo-3" seems good to me

Eskimo-3 liquid: each 5ml typically contains:
Omega-3 Fatty Acids 1,500mg
of which
EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid) 750mg
DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) 500mg
*
Natural Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) 14mg
With ascorbic acid, lecithin, and flavouring

Not sure about dosage tho, im thinking about 7ml per day

this board and fit day has made keeping track of things so much easier

**IainDaniel** · 04-15-2008, 07:31 AM

I would probably do 10ml.

**Built** · 04-15-2008, 08:35 AM

I go by AHA guidelines for safe upper limit: 10g daily.

danzik17 · 04-15-2008, 10:08 AM

Perhaps I should stop taking 16g Fish Oil daily then

Might have to rethink that one.

**Built** · 04-15-2008, 10:26 AM

I doubt that very much. My feeling is the AHA guidelines are VERY conservative. If THEY say 3 g combined EPA/DHA is safe (this is what is provided by 10 standard fish oil capsules), I figure I can't be sued! LOL!

AKIRA · 05-08-2008, 12:46 PM

Not to bring up good times, but..

How bad (if at all) would it be to take fish oil before a workout? I thought about it today cuz of fish oil helping with muscle inflammation.

**IainDaniel** · 05-08-2008, 12:54 PM

are you cutting? That might be the only time I would use fats PWO.

I don't have any data, but I doubt fish oil anti-inflammatory properties are instant. As long as you are dosing through out the day, that should be fine.

04-14-2008, 08:32 AM	#1
Emmett52 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 19	Fish oil capsules BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I bought some fish oil capsules and have no idea regarding the dosage or even quality of them as they only cost £4 (bout $6 0r $7) for 90 capsules called lifespan omega 3 concentrated fish oils with vitamin e Here is the nutritional info: Per capsule: Pure Fish Oil - 1000mg, of which Omega 3 fatty acids represent 300mg (EPA is 180mg, DHA is 120mg, Vitamin E is10mg) Good or bad quality? what is the other 700mg made up of? How many would you recommend per day (if any, i would buy better quality if needed to) and how should i calculate their calorie content per capsule in order to factor it into my daily intake Im going low carb for the next 2 to 3 weeks to lose body fat, so im increasing my essential fat intake and protein intake Cheers in advance

04-14-2008, 08:49 AM	#2
Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 3,931	Don't worry about the caloric content, unless you're competing or something. Quality depends on brand, but you should be able to assume it's good. Price-quality relation depends on available alternatives. The other 700mg are probably gelatine or something similar. The answer depends on your specific diet, but 10 capsules for ~3g of combined DHA/EPA works for most people. Take 5 after a slow digesting meal at day and another 5 after your slow digesting meal before bed.
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04-14-2008, 09:15 AM	#5
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	It is fine. There will be other Mono, poly and saturated fats in fish oil. The only thing you can look for is a competent manufacturer, so that the oils aren't wrecked during production. 6-9 a day is fine.
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04-14-2008, 09:21 AM	#7
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	Entric coated are meant to help with fish burps. I dunno though, I have never had that problem.
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04-14-2008, 09:24 AM	#10
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	I always take the same. Really you are splitting hair here.
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04-14-2008, 08:58 AM	#3
Smoo_lord Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Darwin. Australia Posts: 226	1 gram fat = 9 cals the rest of the stuff would probably be omega 6 i take about 6 a day, 3 in morning and then 3 before sleep

04-14-2008, 09:08 AM	#4
Emmett52 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 19	does that make them poor quality if the rest is omega 6, just like an honest opinion whether i should stick with this brand or seek an alternative, have read that omega 3 to omega 6 ratio should be 1:1 and that too much omega 6 can be a bad thing so each capsule contains roughly 9 grams of fat then?

04-14-2008, 09:19 AM	#6
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 705	I take 10 a day, trickled in with meals. I take 'em first though, and bury them with the meals. No fish burps.

04-14-2008, 09:22 AM	#8
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 705	I'm too cheap to pay extra LOL!

04-14-2008, 09:23 AM	#9
Emmett52 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 19	would less be required on a day that i eat a salmon fillet then

04-14-2008, 09:28 AM	#11
Emmett52 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 19	ok, cheers for the advice!

04-14-2008, 10:34 AM	#12
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 705	I agree with Iandaniel - I take the same every day. If I get more some days because I ate salmon or omega 3 eggs, that's wonderful.

04-14-2008, 10:45 AM	#14
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	I count the calories if you are cutting. Assuming you use 10.... That is 90 cals.
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04-14-2008, 12:04 PM	#15
Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 3,931	Oh I just noticed the content is 1000mg of fish oil, not a 1000mg capsule. The others in this thread are right that the other 700mg are other fats and the caloric content equals 9 cals per capsule. So you can add 90cals to your diet by default, if you're counting. My bad.
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04-14-2008, 12:09 PM	#17
Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 3,931	Please don't hurt me.
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04-14-2008, 05:33 PM	#18
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,489 Blog Entries: 5	Be VERY careful of the brand that you choose. One brand that I was buying from Stop and Shop spiked by liver enzymes to 3-4 times their normal levels when I got my blood tested - they only went back to normal after I stopped taking that fish oil. Nothing bad happened, but maybe I just got very lucky.
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04-14-2008, 05:34 PM	#19
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 705	What caused that? The spike?

04-14-2008, 05:40 PM	#20
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,489 Blog Entries: 5	Don't really know. I kind of assume the fish oil wasn't pure, maybe mercury or something. All I know is I kept cutting out things one at a time and the enzymes only starting normalizing when I dropped the fish oil.
	Ron Paul 2008 Journal: Boom goes the dynamite

04-14-2008, 05:50 PM	#21
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 382 Photos: 2	Alot of brands will put the purity level on there...if that means jack shit, I don't know. Mine say 99.99% purified fish oil for whatever that is worth...

04-15-2008, 02:12 AM	#22
Emmett52 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 19	decided to bin the capsules i bought yesterday, they seem like poor quality as they were only £4 (about $7.80) for 90 and there is very little info on packaging regarding source or anything other than ingredient which says fish lipid concentrate (containing omega 3 fatty acids) and capsule shell, the directions are 1 to 2 capsules per day and in bold it says do not exceed recommended intake (which would only give me 0.36g of epa and 0.24g of dha per day), they dont seem right so gonna fork out and buy a bottle of fish oil, have read a good reputable review on the one i intend getting

04-15-2008, 06:55 AM	#23
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	Carlson's fish oil is good stuff.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

04-15-2008, 07:02 AM	#24
Emmett52 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 19	i got eskimo-3 omega fish oil, google brought this up: "A recent survey by the Food Safety by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland examined a range of popular European fish oil capsules for the presence of dioxins. Alarmingly, one of the products tested showed the dioxin level to be five times the maximum limit. Eskimo-3 stable fish oil was found to have the lowest levels of contaminants, which included dioxins and dioxin-like PCB’s. Concentration of heavy metal contaminants such as cadmium and mercury was below detection levels in Eskimo-3" seems good to me Eskimo-3 liquid: each 5ml typically contains: Omega-3 Fatty Acids 1,500mg of which EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid) 750mg DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) 500mg * Natural Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) 14mg With ascorbic acid, lecithin, and flavouring Not sure about dosage tho, im thinking about 7ml per day this board and fit day has made keeping track of things so much easier

04-15-2008, 07:31 AM	#25
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	I would probably do 10ml.
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04-15-2008, 08:35 AM	#26
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 705	I go by AHA guidelines for safe upper limit: 10g daily.

04-15-2008, 10:08 AM	#27
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,489 Blog Entries: 5	Perhaps I should stop taking 16g Fish Oil daily then Might have to rethink that one.
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04-15-2008, 10:26 AM	#28
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 705	I doubt that very much. My feeling is the AHA guidelines are VERY conservative. If THEY say 3 g combined EPA/DHA is safe (this is what is provided by 10 standard fish oil capsules), I figure I can't be sued! LOL!

05-08-2008, 12:46 PM	#29
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05-08-2008, 12:54 PM	#30
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	are you cutting? That might be the only time I would use fats PWO. I don't have any data, but I doubt fish oil anti-inflammatory properties are instant. As long as you are dosing through out the day, that should be fine.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan