when to start cutting?

danny81 · 04-16-2008, 01:31 PM

alright i have been bulking since late february im 6ft1 and and about 175 right now. i can stil see my abs a little but they are not like super cut. i want to get cut for the summer starting in june. when should i start cutting? in may?

Irons77 · 04-16-2008, 01:35 PM

Start within the hour That's a big cut you need

**Built** · 04-16-2008, 01:37 PM

What bodyfat are you at, approximately, right now, and what bodyfat would you like to get to?

**dg806** · 04-16-2008, 02:08 PM

I'm eating a little debbie chocolate chip cake right now. Does that count?

**IainDaniel** · 04-16-2008, 02:12 PM

My Reese's Piece's were better.

**Built** · 04-16-2008, 02:12 PM

dg you SUCK.

<tucks into cabbage and buffalo>

danny81 · 04-16-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Built

What bodyfat are you at, approximately, right now, and what bodyfat would you like to get to?

idk im a little more cut then this gy http://myspace-808.vo.llnwd.net/0118...88313808_l.jpg
so like 13% i want to get a sixpack so i guess 7%

**dg806** · 04-16-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Built

dg you SUCK.

<tucks into cabbage and buffalo>

lol, I actually ate a can of tuna, and a bananna along with it. I had to have something sweet. And I am taking fish oil for fat. I'm sure I will pay for Both packs I ate

**Built** · 04-16-2008, 02:24 PM

Okay, well at 175 and 13% you have 152 lbs lean mass. Assuming you neither lose nor gain muscle, you need to hit 164 lbs.

So, you need to drop 11 lbs. Start 12 weeks before you need to hit that weight, diet at a 500 calorie a day deficit, drop your training volume down and lift heavy, toss in a little steady state cardio post workout (20 minutes) and about a month in, start subbing 5 minutes of HIIT for the first 5 minutes of that steady state post workout cardio.

Have a good cut!

danny81 · 04-16-2008, 02:26 PM

i already do HIIT cardio 2x a week for about 11 minutes and i box 3x a week and do BJJ 2x a week so i get lots of cardio.

so should i eat mroe? and i cant do a 5x5 stye routin on a cut right?

edubz · 04-16-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Built

So, you need to drop 11 lbs. Start 12 weeks before you need to hit that weight, diet at a 500 calorie a day deficit,

are you saying just to eat 500 calories a day? ho can a human function like that?

Irons77 · 04-16-2008, 02:37 PM

500 less then maintance........tard

edubz · 04-16-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Irons77

500 less then maintance........tard

what does that mean?

**Built** · 04-16-2008, 02:44 PM

Well, maintenance means the number of calories you eat to ... um... maintain, and uh, 500 less than that means... um, you're planning to create enough less food so your body has to drop about a pound of fat a week.

**Built** · 04-16-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by danny81

i already do HIIT cardio 2x a week for about 11 minutes and i box 3x a week and do BJJ 2x a week so i get lots of cardio.

so should i eat mroe? and i cant do a 5x5 stye routin on a cut right?

Definitely don't increase the cardio.

You absolutely can and should continue 5x5 style training. Short, intense, heavy lifts, leave off the accessory and concentration stuff as your cut deepens, just keep the iron on the bar. Drop the volume rather than dropping the weights to keep the volume up - you need a big muscle to lift a big weight a few times, you don't need much muscle to move a pencil for 3x15 know what I'm saying?

Why do you think you should eat MORE food to LOSE weight after I suggested a deficit of 500 calories a day?

danny81 · 04-16-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Built

Definitely don't increase the cardio.

You absolutely can and should continue 5x5 style training. Short, intense, heavy lifts, leave off the accessory and concentration stuff as your cut deepens, just keep the iron on the bar. Drop the volume rather than dropping the weights to keep the volume up - you need a big muscle to lift a big weight a few times, you don't need much muscle to move a pencil for 3x15 know what I'm saying?

Why do you think you should eat MORE food to LOSE weight after I suggested a deficit of 500 calories a day?

my bad i meant should i run more. thanks for the help but i haev one more question. after i get to 165 or w.e then is it possible for me to do a diet so that i stay cut the whole summer until like august or w.e but gain musce so i can end up at like 170 at the end of the sumer btu still be like 7% bf

DaMayor · 04-16-2008, 03:13 PM

Wait a minute, I thought you were having trouble bulking.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/di...p-me-bulk.html (wat foods can help me bulk)

danny81 · 04-16-2008, 03:17 PM

i was. im going to finnish my bulk a few days before april

DaMayor · 04-16-2008, 03:37 PM

Um, you're late.

danny81 · 04-16-2008, 03:41 PM

i mean a few days before may

edubz · 04-16-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

Well, maintenance means the number of calories you eat to ... um... maintain, and uh, 500 less than that means... um, you're planning to create enough less food so your body has to drop about a pound of fat a week.

a construction worker needs more calories then say a truck driver

Irons77 · 04-16-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by edubz

a construction worker needs more calories then say a truck driver

????

nadirmg · 04-16-2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMayor

Wait a minute, I thought you were having trouble bulking.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/di...p-me-bulk.html (wat foods can help me bulk)

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny81

i was. im going to finnish my bulk a few days before april

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMayor

Um, you're late.

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny81

i mean a few days before may

rofl

**dg806** · 04-16-2008, 05:13 PM

Another classic Danny thread.

**Built** · 04-16-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dg806

Another classic Danny thread.

I'll consider myself warned.

Merkaba · 04-17-2008, 06:15 AM

built, so for me preparing for my cut and show on June 14 I should still lifth heavy as possible all the way through. I've started doing sets of 15. I was told to ligthen up and go for higher reps with less rest. Whats your take on this?

**Built** · 04-17-2008, 09:36 AM

This will work to increase caloric expenditure slightly from your workouts.

It will also serve to convince your body that it doesn't need all that pesky muscle - you're only lifting light things after all, and in a deficit, well, who needs THAT?

High reps for cutting is a persistent myth. It CAN work - hell, ANYTHING CAN work in the right person, with the right drugs.

For the rest of the humans, well, we need strategy...

Read this: TESTOSTERONE NATION

and this: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ged-dense.html (Ripped, Rugged, and Dense)

**dg806** · 04-17-2008, 09:51 AM

Push/pull on the same day? Not a fan of that.

04-16-2008, 01:31 PM	#1
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04-16-2008, 01:35 PM	#2
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04-16-2008, 02:08 PM	#4
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danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,282	i already do HIIT cardio 2x a week for about 11 minutes and i box 3x a week and do BJJ 2x a week so i get lots of cardio. so should i eat mroe? and i cant do a 5x5 stye routin on a cut right?
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04-16-2008, 01:37 PM	#3
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 701	What bodyfat are you at, approximately, right now, and what bodyfat would you like to get to?

04-16-2008, 02:24 PM	#9
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 701	Okay, well at 175 and 13% you have 152 lbs lean mass. Assuming you neither lose nor gain muscle, you need to hit 164 lbs. So, you need to drop 11 lbs. Start 12 weeks before you need to hit that weight, diet at a 500 calorie a day deficit, drop your training volume down and lift heavy, toss in a little steady state cardio post workout (20 minutes) and about a month in, start subbing 5 minutes of HIIT for the first 5 minutes of that steady state post workout cardio. Have a good cut!

04-16-2008, 02:37 PM	#12
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 692	500 less then maintance........tard
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

04-16-2008, 02:44 PM	#14
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 701	Well, maintenance means the number of calories you eat to ... um... maintain, and uh, 500 less than that means... um, you're planning to create enough less food so your body has to drop about a pound of fat a week.

04-16-2008, 03:13 PM	#17
DaMayor Pants Up, Ho's Down Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Here. Posts: 4,859	Wait a minute, I thought you were having trouble bulking. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/di...p-me-bulk.html (wat foods can help me bulk)

04-16-2008, 03:17 PM	#18
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,282	i was. im going to finnish my bulk a few days before april
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04-16-2008, 03:37 PM	#19
DaMayor Pants Up, Ho's Down Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Here. Posts: 4,859	Um, you're late.

04-16-2008, 03:41 PM	#20
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,282	i mean a few days before may
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04-16-2008, 05:13 PM	#24
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 16,596	Another classic Danny thread.
	"So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take our freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore. From my cold dead hands!" "I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." Nov. 5, 1994 - Ronald Reagan

04-17-2008, 06:15 AM	#26
Merkaba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: sc Posts: 59	built, so for me preparing for my cut and show on June 14 I should still lifth heavy as possible all the way through. I've started doing sets of 15. I was told to ligthen up and go for higher reps with less rest. Whats your take on this?

04-17-2008, 09:36 AM	#27
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 701	This will work to increase caloric expenditure slightly from your workouts. It will also serve to convince your body that it doesn't need all that pesky muscle - you're only lifting light things after all, and in a deficit, well, who needs THAT? High reps for cutting is a persistent myth. It CAN work - hell, ANYTHING CAN work in the right person, with the right drugs. For the rest of the humans, well, we need strategy... Read this: TESTOSTERONE NATION and this: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ged-dense.html (Ripped, Rugged, and Dense)

04-17-2008, 09:51 AM	#28
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 16,596	Push/pull on the same day? Not a fan of that.
	"So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take our freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore. From my cold dead hands!" "I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." Nov. 5, 1994 - Ronald Reagan