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Old 04-17-2008, 05:08 PM   #1
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i searched this up but i am still confused, i weigh all my food i dont measure inless its a liquid. When i looked at the nutrional information on my checken brest it said 16 grams of protien in 100g of chickenbrest so i eat 200g of chicken (measured before its cooked) but after it is cooked it weighs about 100g so i was wondering if i was getting 16g of protien or 32g of protien?

and another thing i was reading that rice is suposed to be weigh after cooked that dosent make any sense?



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You should measure your meat before it's cooked.

Where are you getting your nutritional values for your rice? Get them from the package which will list them either as dry rice only or as both dry and steamed.



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Old 04-17-2008, 08:11 PM   #3
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I weighed out some raw chicken breast, and then again poached.

100g of raw chicken breast weighs 75g after I poach it. How does yours weigh 50g? Do you dry the hell out of it?
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Weight it after you cook it



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Weight it after you cook it
Not if your source of nutritional information is from the package.

Your package weighs it as packaged. Raw.



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I weighed out some raw chicken breast, and then again poached.

100g of raw chicken breast weighs 75g after I poach it. How does yours weigh 50g? Do you dry the hell out of it?
Maybe he's eating breast fillets?



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Old 04-17-2008, 08:25 PM   #7
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Same difference.
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Note to self: read posts more thoroughly before posting.

I thought you were wondering why his were half the size of yours.

Good point, though.

Poaching probably retains a lot more water than, say, grilling.



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A little, sure. But they still drop weight. I've tried it after pan-frying and the same thing. I entered both into my custom fitday so I can weigh it out either way.
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So it gets smaller after you cook it, right? So if I cook a 8-oz breast and it weights 7-oz after cooking it, I'm getting the same amount of protein?



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No, the protein magically disappears...



Yes, it's the same. And 8 ounces raw generally turns into about 6 ounces cooked, at least for boneless, skinless chicken boob.
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Damn I been screwing myself out of protein I hate chicken boobs



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Why don't you find a protein source you don't hate?



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No kidding!

There's a WORLD of food out there!

That being said, chicken flavours up pretty nice. Tried any sauces?
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ok thats what i thaught but i was reading another thread and some one said after but i guess before is the way to go. The way i was cooking my chicken brests was i would sear the out sides in a hot pan then bake them if any of u where intrested



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It was a joke, that is mainly what I eat other then tuna and a little red meat



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I eat a LOT of red meat.

Love it love it love it bloody and rare. Mmm....
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Weigh after cooking; water has no calories.
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I eat a LOT of red meat.

Love it love it love it bloody and rare. Mmm....
There is a saying to that i use but not here. I love rare too



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Weigh after cooking; water has no calories.
Yes, but you will eat more calories if you eat 100g of cooked chicken than you would if you ate 100g of raw chicken.



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The main difference between cooked and raw meat is that, depending on the cooking method, cooked meat is likely to contain more or less fat. So in terms of calories cooking can make a big difference.

Where the amino acids of protein are concerned it's not going to do much.

Half a chicken breast is about 30 grams of protein, regardless of if you stew it, grill it, fry it or eat it raw. For calories grilling is best, frying worse but it won't make much difference to the protein.



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one thing i don't like about fitday is some of the things aren't measurable by weight. only volume. sweet potatoes, for instance. i cut a sweet potato in half, weigh it and it's 5.5 oz. so... i go into fitday to enter the weight in and lo' and behold i've got my choice of gallons, liters, cups, and fl. oz. but no weight choices.

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There is a saying to that i use but not here. I love rare too

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The main difference between cooked and raw meat is that, depending on the cooking method, cooked meat is likely to contain more or less fat. So in terms of calories cooking can make a big difference.

Where the amino acids of protein are concerned it's not going to do much.

Half a chicken breast is about 30 grams of protein, regardless of if you stew it, grill it, fry it or eat it raw. For calories grilling is best, frying worse but it won't make much difference to the protein.



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If you poached or grilled a chicken breast with no oil a *tiny* bit of fat might leave the chicken during cooking but I don't think it would be that big of a difference.

But let's say your diet calls for 100g of chicken breast. There is (according to people on this thread's experiences) a 25%-50% decrease in weight after cooking.

So if you measure after cooking, you will add 25%-50% more calories to your planned intake of calories from chicken.

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If you poached or grilled a chicken breast with no oil a *tiny* bit of fat might leave the chicken during cooking but I don't think it would be that big of a difference.

But let's say your diet calls for 100g of chicken breast. There is (according to people on this thread's experiences) a 25%-50% decrease in weight after cooking.

So if you measure after cooking, you will add 25%-50% more calories to your planned intake of calories from chicken.

Right?
Not if you account for the difference.

I don't always weigh before I cook it - usually I cook it up and then weigh it - but I know it loses 25% of its weight when I cook it so I take that into account. My 300g poached chicken breast is really 400g raw. I just keep two different entries in fitday. MUCH easier.
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weight before ..after .. cooked.. raw... AARGH!!

Why dont you work out your requirements based on the cooked values and be done with it?

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one thing i don't like about fitday is some of the things aren't measurable by weight. only volume. sweet potatoes, for instance. i cut a sweet potato in half, weigh it and it's 5.5 oz. so...any ideas?
Dunno about Fitday but in Biggly I'd just enter one SP and for units enter .5, ie half.

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So if you measure after cooking, you will add 25%-50% more calories to your planned intake of calories from chicken.

Right?
No, I'm referring to the protein element. The calorie aspect is indeed dependent upon cooking method. If you use something such as a Foreman grill you'll see even a lean chicken breast will shed quite a lot of fat.

Obviously if you stick it in breadcrumbs and fry it there's a difference in calories - but not protein.

The difference between cooking methods isn't such a biggie for chicken as it's pretty damn lean anyway. It makes more of a difference with beef or lamb for example.

In another life I was a regional manager for the facilities company that dealt with Asda/Walmart and I know, for a fact, that the chickens used in the rotisserie are actually injected with fat before they are delivered to the store - as that cooking method dries out so much fat. Which is the whole point of it really...



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Yes, but you will eat more calories if you eat 100g of cooked chicken than you would if you ate 100g of raw chicken.
Agreed, but that is not his question. Essentially he is asking what weighing method (weighing before cooking or after) is more accurate to the nutritional facts label.

I am under the impression that to determine the nutritional facts on foods, the foods are burned, and the amount of energy created from it determines how many calories the food contains. By this theory, water will create no calories, so that extra water weight in meats before cooking is just that; it should not be factored into your overall intake.
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