KelJu

I am here to report that I am aborting mission. VanessaNicole was 100% correct. I had a manic episode this weekend. I didn't sleep any Sunday or Monday. I ate some oatmeal, a banana, and some baked chicken Monday afternoon, and crashed for nearly 20 hours.


All I can report is that I lost 10lbs in a week. The diet was working beautifully, but I don't have the capability to continue coarse. I'm switching back to a more sensible diet that Jodi made me some time back.

Biggly

Good move

Looking great is no good if you feel like &^&@ or screw your health





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soxmuscle

Hey, at least you gave it a go. I know I wouldn't be able to do that.

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danny81

I told you it worked. I did that during wrestling season and i got chisled in four months. BTW bro what are you gunna do with all those extra red rox and fish oil?

KelJu

I'm going to stick them in my ass danny, real far up my ass.

DOMS

10 pounds in a week? Just how much of that do you think was fat, versus muscle and water?

KelJu

Well, I actually dropped 15, but I discounted at least 5lbs as water. My body rebounded extremely quickly, and I am 10lbs lighter after rebounding. I am scared to know how weak I am going to be in the gym today.

Personally, I think the diet sucks. There is no fucking way that someone with a lot of muscle is going to be able to retain their muscle on that diet.

DOMS

Would you mind posting how you felt about today's workout in this thread (in addition to your journal)?

IainDaniel

If it took you 4 months to get ripped on that diet, then you must have been one fat fuck.

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

KelJu

You son of a bitch. I wasn't going to post it, but you just had to ask. Yes, I am weaker than dogshit. I am literally half as strong as I was before I started. No, I am not misusing the word. I am in fact half as strong as when I started in many of my lifts.

I will not be posting numbers. I am pissed off. I need a day to regroup and plan my next move.

fUnc17

I love food & like my sanity too much, I could not do this. Nor would I, good luck man.

Heres how I train.
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DOMS

Sorry to hear that, man. But! When I did the HIT stuff a while ago, I came back weaker. At least in terms of PRs.However, just two weeks later I was hitting new PRs. Give it a couple of weeks and see how it goes.

KelJu

I am upping the carbs, and giving velocity another try. I already lost much of my strength, now I have nothing to lose really. I'll call this velocity part II

NeilPearson

So are we supposed to call you stupid again?

IainDaniel

Why not do the velocity and do a carb up every 3 days?

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

DOMS

No. Wait until he shits out his colon.

KelJu

Actually, my digestive system has never felt better. I am having 1-wipe-poos. But, I am going to say thats because of the metamucil.

danny81

i meant to hit 2 months. thas how long your supposd to do it for. but now i have a lot of red rox left idk what to do with the.

KelJu

Stick them up your ass!

VanessaNicole

Good for you, I'm proud of you.

Just know that a lot of that was water weight that you lost.

Besides that, it's very possible to lose weight with a sensible diet plan.

And anyway, isn't the most important thing to feel good? To me that comes before looking good.

And personally I don't even like it when people look uber-shredded, which would be the only reason to diet that way.

I prefer a more natural form of definition.

The more
The marble wastes,
The more the statue grows.

Michelangelo

jhawkin1

Was thinking about velocity, but I rather cut carbs slightly, and clean up the diet even more than I have been. Just seems like the right thing to do. Maybe summer time I will try this before hitting the beach or pool party (2-3 weeks max).

DaMayor

Kelju, I know this is pretty much over, but I have a question. Have you ever had any sort of bloodwork done? Glucose tolerance test, that sort of thing?

I'm just curious..... Just seems like the "symptoms" you experienced were a little extreme.

Anyway, I agree with Ms. Nicole, a sensible diet is just as effective.

Good luck.

KelJu

Ok, so here is what I have figured out with some experimentation.

I can not follow the original velocity diet because by the second or third day I start having some malfunctions. I researched Hypoglycemia, and I am certain that is what starts happening to me.

So I made some changes to the diet and completely alleviated the problem. Every morning, I have 2 servings of oatmeal along with the other items I consume during the velocity diet.

Another problem was my fear of losing most of my strength which seemed to be happening until I made another change. On lifting days, I added in 2 servings of oatmeal to the meal which precedes my workout by 3-4 hours. After doing this, I was able to throw up nearly the same amount of weight that I was lifting when I was 15lbs heavier. I have been doing this for the past week, and all of my negative symptoms are gone.

I was surprised. I didn't think it would make that much of a difference. The weight is still coming off, only a little bit slower. I can deal with that. I picked this diet, not because it was the best, but because it was the hardest I had ever seen. I am going to hit my goal of 220, then I'll switch over to a more moderate diet.


Also, I didn't waste my money on the surge and other supps listed in the diet. I think that decision was what was hurting me. I'm not saying I should have bought them, but instead I should have substituting them with an equivalent food souce. The more changes I make the farther I get away from the velocity diet, so I guess what I am doing is just a hybrid now.

AKIRA

Whats funny is that I would hold this true against a diet of eating cardboard 24 hours a day.

I remember way back in the day, when people used to post 'improvements' on their diets and they still got shit on. For example, someone would come in and say they ate McDonalds everyday. Then after some advice, theyd eat McDonalds twice a week. I say good job on the improvement and the Mr & Mrs. Know-it-Alls said shit that meant that it wasnt good enough. When I agreed and said to cut the newbies some slack, I got yelled at as well.

Thats the only reason why I think a certain someone dislikes me.

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Bench 365 (12/3)
Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19)
Squat 370
Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17)
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IainDaniel

Shut up

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

HialeahChico305

Man I sure hope you took some pics while you were on the diet kelju, if you did you should post them up. You really got my respects, this diet looks like hell to me.

DiGiTaL

great...I've been looking into the velocity diet for the past few days and was going to go with it until I did a search on here and ran into this thread..

I guess I know more about this diet from here then the T-nation's forum provides.

How come everyone there is so excited about it, and everywhere else people are so negative about it.

Also, anyone seen the difference in velocity diet 3.0, the recent one

Stats: Weight: 183lbs | BF: 13%
My Cutting Journal come motivate me.

DiGiTaL

I am curios if Built might have an opinion on this?

Stats: Weight: 183lbs | BF: 13%
My Cutting Journal come motivate me.

DiGiTaL

$526 to starve my self, fuck that shit.

Stats: Weight: 183lbs | BF: 13%
My Cutting Journal come motivate me.

danzik17

All diets are based around creating a caloric deficit dude (fat loss ones anyway). IMO there are a LOT better ways to do that than this pretty absurd diet.

If you want fast fat loss, run a PSMF cycle. It will be just as effective while being safer with scientific research on the muscle sparing effects of the diet.

Ron Paul 2012

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