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hybrid of machine & skin
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Precontest slowing metabolism
I'm in the best shape I have ever been in, four weeks out from my next contest. My metabolism is starting to slow down, and I'm not pooping as much. Sorry for being gross, but its the telltale sign for me. I'm also getting a little weaker, as I noticed this today.
I completed a refeed from being on a low carb diet yesterday and haven't still gotten back to "regularity". How can I stop this or at least minimize it. Supps? diet? I'm open to anything-I really need help because my physique has never looked this incredible. ![]() |
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Bioidentical Bodybuilder
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A little tiny bit of T3 would help if you can get your hands on some. We're talking 5-10 mcg here, not much.
If you're talking "legal", there's not a ton you can do other than just fight cortisol. What is your diet and training like, outside of your refeed? |
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hybrid of machine & skin
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diet and training are dialed in. I am a victim of this every year-it's pissing me off because I look the best I have ever looked in precontest condition so early out.
I cant use t3, drug tested. Any ideas for supps to fight cortisol? Cissus? 11oxo? 6 oxo? |
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Bioidentical Bodybuilder
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Vitamin C comes to mind.
Kindly describe your diet and your training? |
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hybrid of machine & skin
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I'm carb cycling...diet will be posted later.
Training: QUADS AND CALVES Squat 6 sets (12,12,8,6,6,6) Leg Press Leg Ext 3 sets (10,8,8) Front Squat Hack Squat 3 sets (12,10,10) Db sumo squat Step Lunge 2 sets (10,10) walk lunge Calf 4 sets (12,10,8,8) Calf CHEST AND TRICEPS Reps In Db 6 sets (12,12,8,6,6,6) Flat Db Press Mid Bar Press 4 sets (10,8,8,8) Mid Bar Press Chest Dips 3 sets (10,10,10) Inc Fly Rope Press 4 sets (12,10,8,8) Tri Press Tri Bar Ext 3 (10,10,10) Tricep Dips BACK AND HAMS Bent over row 6 sets (12, 12,8,6,6,6) Lat pull palms facing Lat Over 4 sets (10, 8, 8, 8) Deads (you pick) 1 arm Row 3 sets (10,10,10) T bar row Leg Curl ` 4 sets (12,10,8,8) Leg Curl Stiff Leg Db 3 sets (10,10,10) High Leg Press-single SHOUDLERS AND BICEPS Db press 6 sets (12,12,8,6,6,6) Side lateral Shrug 4 sets (10,8,8,8) Push Press Side lateral 3 sets (10,10,10) Front Raise Barbell Curl 4 sets (12,10,8,8) In Db Curl Seated Db 3 sets (10,8,8) Cable Curl QUADS AND CALVES Leg Ext 6 sets (12,12,8,6,6,6) Leg Press 3 sets (10,8,8) Front Squat 3 sets (12,10,10) Duck Walk 2 sets (10,10) Calf 4 sets (12,10,8,8) CHEST AND TRICEPS Reps Flat Db 6 sets (12,12,8,6,6,6) Convr Inc Press 4 sets (10,8,8,8) Push Up (Alt) 3 sets (10,10,10) French Press 4 sets (10,8,8) Bench Dips w/weight 3 sets (10,10,10) BACK AND HAMS Wide Grip Chins 6 sets (12,12,8,6,6,6) Pullover 4 sets (10,8,8,8) 1 arm Row 3 sets (10,10,10) High Leg Press ` 4 sets (12,10,8,8) Stiff Leg Db 3 sets (10,10,10) SHOUDLERS AND BICEPS Reverse Smith press 6 sets (12,12,8,6,6,6) Shoulder Press on incline 3 sets (10,10,10) Lateral Raise 4 sets (10,8,8,8) Preacher Curl 4 sets (12,10,8,8) AltDB Curl 3 sets (10,8,8) 21s 2 sets I realize this looks kind of confusing, but I have made great gains on this. I do a rotation three times, changing it up after the third rotation. |
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My Role Model
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Designer Supps. Lean Extreme is meant to help with Cortisol
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Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.
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hybrid of machine & skin
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day 1
Immediately upon waking BCAAs. Meal 2 3/4 cup old fashioned oats 2 eggs 1 tsp psyllium husk powder 5g fish oil HIIT pwo drink-1 scoop whey, BCAAs Meal 3 chicken breast and gigantic salad with romaine, tomatoes, cukes and olive oil and vinegar meal 4 skirt steak with salad see above 5g fish oil meal 5 serving of meat/fish with grilled vegs 1 tsp psyllium husk powder meal 6 casein, 3 tbsp peanut butter, and cottage cheese mixed in drink with sugar free chocolate sauce bed-ZMA I drink 1.5 gallons a day of water My diet doesnt really change, just the carb ratio (protein remains a constant 220-250g): It follows this: 40g off training day, 50g on smaller bodypart days, 90g leg day, every five days I take in 190g healthy carb refeed. This is my trainers' advice. He's never been wrong about this stuff, and he tells me not to worry, as more carbs will be introduced every monday at a rate of 10g weekly. I take his word as gospel when it comes to this. |
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hybrid of machine & skin
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Eat well, train daily, die anyway. |
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Bioidentical Bodybuilder
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That's ridiculously high reps for this close to contest, especially for a natty. Have you competed before?
Also, what macros does your diet turn into - grams of protein, carb and fat, total calories? |
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hybrid of machine & skin
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Ive competed several times before and came in third in my last two shows. I made a huge leap this year in what I look like and I feel like I could really beat what I did last time quite easily. I dont understand your question about my macros-I thought I posted them. |
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Bioidentical Bodybuilder
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Your total calories, and grams of protein, carb and fat.
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You say it works - but you're weak and your metabolism is tanking. Is that what you think of as "it works"? Assisted bodybuilders cut like this. They CAN! They're injecting their endocrine system. They're the ones who typically do two hours of cardio a day at the same time. I hope to GOD you aren't doing this part too... You will come in hard and dense if you switch over to low-rep heavy work and HIIT. "High reps for cutting" may work for some, but it hardly means it's optimal. Genetic freaks and assisted athletes can get away with a LOT of sub-optimal training. The rest of the humans need strategy. Read this, it might help: TESTOSTERONE NATION |
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hybrid of machine & skin
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I talked to my trainer yesterday, and he made some mods. Lower rep work as you prescribed, my diet stays the same and I get an additional day of rest. WOOHOO!!! Cardio is three days HIIT (I'm a huge fan of HIIIT), 3 days of 25 min steady state at 60% HR. Hopefully, this will get me out of the funk. As for supplementation, any recommendations? |
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Guardian of The Homeland
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Love to see some pics!
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Bioidentical Bodybuilder
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Okay. Supps. Try 200mcg Selenium to support thyroid, and fish oil - I take 10g daily - for too many reasons to list. Iodine may help a bit, I don't know enough about orals but I'm fiddling with transdermal application at the moment, which strikes me as safer. Vitamin C will help fight cortisol. You may also consider looking into something that will bind up SHBG. I'm looking at a supp made by nni's sponsor - Designer Supplements that claims to do just this. This close to contest, your testosterone and T3 are tanking. If activate does what it purports to, it might help free up a little more of both of these hormones, since SHBG binds free testosterone, and free testosterone is required for the conversion of T4 to the active T3. Unbind some testosterone, and your T3 conversion might be slightly enhanced. Note that neither of these is likely to be profound but it should be legal within your Federation (check). Good luck! Last edited by Built : 05-31-2008 at 02:25 PM. |
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Guardian of The Homeland
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hybrid of machine & skin
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I'm not going to follow that last part, although i do agree that my test is in the toilet. Going to think about getting more saturated fats. It just doesnt make sense for me to do that, especially since I worked my ass off this year. Anyway, I cant wait until the day after, going to eat the house down. ![]() |
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lifts weights
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kill em dude.
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"tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut
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Bioidentical Bodybuilder
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What doesn't make sense to do? I'm confused at your last post.
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hybrid of machine & skin
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