What does a "shaky" feeling mean?

Stewart20 · 08-22-2008, 02:15 PM

I am trying to follow a sensible diet, however, it seems that in between some of my meals, I get a bit shaky and just feel uneasy, and it just feels like I need to eat. This is usually when I will go and down a huge glass of orange juice or eat a whole bag of chex mix.

I think I eat pretty ok, the only time I eat a mass amount of sugar is with my during workout shake and post workout shake, following Berardi's lead (from an article that member Built posted a while ago). I use a 70 cc scoop of dextrose during my workout with 24 g protein, and then one 70 cc scoop after along with about 35 cc scoop maltodextrin post workout with about 24 g protein.

My workout has a bit more volume than I am used to, but overall the intensity isn't too great until the last two sets of each exercise and I usually only do 3 exercises per workout.

Is it from the workout that I just might need more carbs? Or are my shakes messing me up?

largepkg · 08-22-2008, 02:23 PM

Over the last five years I've become hypoglycemic and my symptoms are the same as yours. I'll get shaky and feel very lethargic. My remedy has always been to ingest either a small amount of sugar or some carbs although sugar works much faster for me.

Give that a try and let us now how it works for you.

KelJu · 08-22-2008, 02:26 PM

I had those same symptoms when I was experimenting with the velocity diet. I am almost certain it was hypoglycemia.

I switched to a diet that was not as harsh and allowed for more carbs. The weight loss continued, yet the symptoms completely went away.

largepkg · 08-22-2008, 02:32 PM

On top of what I said I believe my symptoms to be an insulin response from ingesting too much carbs. I go hypo usually 1/2 hour after eating too many carbs. Not sure if that helps you...

KelJu · 08-22-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by largepkg

On top of what I said I believe my symptoms to be an insulin response from ingesting too much carbs. I go hypo usually 1/2 hour after eating too many carbs. Not sure if that helps you...

My symptoms were from a total lack of carbs. Strange.

largepkg · 08-22-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KelJu

My symptoms were from a total lack of carbs. Strange.

Yea, I believe that I'm mildly insulin resistant which creates an over reaction of insulin putting me in the hypo state.

Stewart20 · 08-22-2008, 02:45 PM

well, I would say that I certainly eat "enough" carbs during the day, I am not restricting carbs or anything like that. It only seems to happen in the afternoons of my workout days now that I am thinking about it, so could it have something to do with my workout shakes?

also, if I were to have developed hypoglycemia, what should I do about it?

largepkg · 08-22-2008, 02:45 PM

The good news for me is that I can put myself in this state PWO which really helps me build muscle so I'm not complaining to much.

largepkg · 08-22-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewart20

well, I would say that I certainly eat "enough" carbs during the day, I am not restricting carbs or anything like that. It only seems to happen in the afternoons of my workout days now that I am thinking about it, so could it have something to do with my workout shakes?

also, if I were to have developed hypoglycemia, what should I do about it?

Well given what you stated your PWO shake sounds like you could be mildly insulin resistant as well. Maybe tone down the carbs a bit and see how that works. But, again a large insulin response is a good thing PWO!

Stewart20 · 08-22-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by largepkg

The good news for me is that I can put myself in this state PWO which really helps me build muscle so I'm not complaining to much.

how do you put youselft into that state?

largepkg · 08-22-2008, 03:40 PM

Same as you. Large amounts of carbs PWO. I'm very aware of my hypo reaction so I'm pretty good at controlling it.

Stewart20 · 08-22-2008, 03:44 PM

ok, sorry for the cluelessness, but is this something we want to be doing? it is good for muscles, but is it good for you overall?

largepkg · 08-22-2008, 04:01 PM

The simple answer would be probably not. Especially if you're already insulin resistant. My take is that I eat pretty good and only intentionally spike my insulin PWO so that's only a few time per week. I'm also very acute to what my body is telling me through years of trial and error. My condition certainly is getting worse so for me I don't see a problem.

*note* I also monitor my glucose on a fairly regular basis and see no difference since doing so.

**Built** · 08-22-2008, 04:27 PM

Glucose uptake is mediated by the translocation of GLUT4 (glucose transporters) to the surface of your muscle cells.

I am still somewhat insulin-resistant, and I've started to make a point of performing modest physical activity when I consume my post-workout carbs, and especially during carbups. My current favourite activity for this is "cleaning the bathroom" - you use your whole body, lots of squatting down and reaching up to clean the floor, tub, shower walls. Not too taxing, and it sure as hell beats the rowing machine!

Stewart20 · 08-22-2008, 05:23 PM

I am having a lot of success with having a protein/carb shake during my workouts as far as the actual workouts go. I feel it keeps me going, so to speak. Is having another drink immediately post workout overdoing it as far as carb intake goes? I guess I am trying to find out if this practice is doing me more harm than good. As in, do I have a chance to develop diabetes from this practice?

**Built** · 08-22-2008, 05:50 PM

All I can suggest is that you try it both ways and see how you feel. And I cannot emphasize enough how much better I feel when I remain active after consuming post-workout carbs. Sip your shake while you go out for a walk for half an hour. You'll see what I'm talking about.

VanessaNicole · 08-23-2008, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart20

I am trying to follow a sensible diet, however, it seems that in between some of my meals, I get a bit shaky and just feel uneasy, and it just feels like I need to eat. This is usually when I will go and down a huge glass of orange juice or eat a whole bag of chex mix.

I think I eat pretty ok, the only time I eat a mass amount of sugar is with my during workout shake and post workout shake, following Berardi's lead (from an article that member Built posted a while ago). I use a 70 cc scoop of dextrose during my workout with 24 g protein, and then one 70 cc scoop after along with about 35 cc scoop maltodextrin post workout with about 24 g protein.

My workout has a bit more volume than I am used to, but overall the intensity isn't too great until the last two sets of each exercise and I usually only do 3 exercises per workout.

Is it from the workout that I just might need more carbs? Or are my shakes messing me up?

That is most definitely hypoclycemia.

The fact that your problem is solved by consuming sugars is pretty definitive.

You may be pre-diabetic or you may simply be doing some harm to yourself with those rather large doses of simple sugars.

No one needs that much sugar in a single dose, IMO.

Either spread those carbohydrates out or stop taking such large amounts and see if that solves your problem.

08-22-2008, 02:15 PM	#1
Stewart20 My little pain in the ass Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,028 Photos: 2	What does a "shaky" feeling mean? I am trying to follow a sensible diet, however, it seems that in between some of my meals, I get a bit shaky and just feel uneasy, and it just feels like I need to eat. This is usually when I will go and down a huge glass of orange juice or eat a whole bag of chex mix. I think I eat pretty ok, the only time I eat a mass amount of sugar is with my during workout shake and post workout shake, following Berardi's lead (from an article that member Built posted a while ago). I use a 70 cc scoop of dextrose during my workout with 24 g protein, and then one 70 cc scoop after along with about 35 cc scoop maltodextrin post workout with about 24 g protein. My workout has a bit more volume than I am used to, but overall the intensity isn't too great until the last two sets of each exercise and I usually only do 3 exercises per workout. Is it from the workout that I just might need more carbs? Or are my shakes messing me up?
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08-22-2008, 02:45 PM	#7
Stewart20 My little pain in the ass Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,028 Photos: 2	well, I would say that I certainly eat "enough" carbs during the day, I am not restricting carbs or anything like that. It only seems to happen in the afternoons of my workout days now that I am thinking about it, so could it have something to do with my workout shakes? also, if I were to have developed hypoglycemia, what should I do about it?
	http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

08-22-2008, 03:44 PM	#12
Stewart20 My little pain in the ass Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,028 Photos: 2	ok, sorry for the cluelessness, but is this something we want to be doing? it is good for muscles, but is it good for you overall?
	http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

08-22-2008, 05:23 PM	#15
Stewart20 My little pain in the ass Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,028 Photos: 2	I am having a lot of success with having a protein/carb shake during my workouts as far as the actual workouts go. I feel it keeps me going, so to speak. Is having another drink immediately post workout overdoing it as far as carb intake goes? I guess I am trying to find out if this practice is doing me more harm than good. As in, do I have a chance to develop diabetes from this practice?
	http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

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08-22-2008, 02:23 PM	#2
largepkg Senior Fucknut Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: S FLA Posts: 3,258 Photos: 2	Over the last five years I've become hypoglycemic and my symptoms are the same as yours. I'll get shaky and feel very lethargic. My remedy has always been to ingest either a small amount of sugar or some carbs although sugar works much faster for me. Give that a try and let us now how it works for you.

08-22-2008, 02:32 PM	#4
largepkg Senior Fucknut Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: S FLA Posts: 3,258 Photos: 2	On top of what I said I believe my symptoms to be an insulin response from ingesting too much carbs. I go hypo usually 1/2 hour after eating too many carbs. Not sure if that helps you...

08-22-2008, 03:40 PM	#11
largepkg Senior Fucknut Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: S FLA Posts: 3,258 Photos: 2	Same as you. Large amounts of carbs PWO. I'm very aware of my hypo reaction so I'm pretty good at controlling it.

08-22-2008, 04:01 PM	#13
largepkg Senior Fucknut Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: S FLA Posts: 3,258 Photos: 2	The simple answer would be probably not. Especially if you're already insulin resistant. My take is that I eat pretty good and only intentionally spike my insulin PWO so that's only a few time per week. I'm also very acute to what my body is telling me through years of trial and error. My condition certainly is getting worse so for me I don't see a problem. note I also monitor my glucose on a fairly regular basis and see no difference since doing so.

08-22-2008, 04:27 PM	#14
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 2,749	Glucose uptake is mediated by the translocation of GLUT4 (glucose transporters) to the surface of your muscle cells. I am still somewhat insulin-resistant, and I've started to make a point of performing modest physical activity when I consume my post-workout carbs, and especially during carbups. My current favourite activity for this is "cleaning the bathroom" - you use your whole body, lots of squatting down and reaching up to clean the floor, tub, shower walls. Not too taxing, and it sure as hell beats the rowing machine!

08-22-2008, 05:50 PM	#16
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 2,749	All I can suggest is that you try it both ways and see how you feel. And I cannot emphasize enough how much better I feel when I remain active after consuming post-workout carbs. Sip your shake while you go out for a walk for half an hour. You'll see what I'm talking about.