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    I'm too hungry for a 15% deficit

    I'm trying to cut, so I'm cutting my calories by 15%. I feel so hungry, that there is just no way that I eat that little. All I think about is food when I'm trying to be at a 15% deficit.

    I'm 26, 196lbs, 10 or 9.5% bodyfat.

    I work out 5 times a week, and have weekend long sex marathons.

    I calculated my maintenance to be 3500 calories.

    I just can't stop thinking of food whenever I cut down to just 3000 calories.

    Did I calculate my maintenance wrong, or is this normal?

    This is my diet sample.

    Meal 1:
    banana
    medium chicken breast
    1 avocado raw

    Pre workout:
    medium chicken breast
    1 cup cooked brown rice

    Post workout:
    protein bar (with sugar)
    1/2 cup ricotta cheese

    Meal 4:
    medium chicken breast
    1 cup cooked brown rice

    Meal 5:
    medium chicken breast
    1 avocado raw

    This totals to 3585 calories. Now I'm now longer hungry.

    Is it possible that my maintenance is above 3,500?

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    at 10% body fat, even the slightest caloric deficit is going to make you hungry. Are you re-feeding frequently?

    Are you making progress at the current caloric deficit? How much each week are you losing?

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    I have a hard time believing that adds up to 3500 cals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skib View Post
    I have a hard time believing that adds up to 3500 cals
    it does look a little thin to me too.
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    Use the free database in my sig to check.

    What you need to do is monitor over time, to establish just what YOUR requirements are.


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    No way thats 3500+. Maybe 2500?

    Are you deep frying the chicken, rice and bananas? lol
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    I'm pretty sure I eat just under that amount and I'm sitting at around 2 grand.

    Go check your numbers.
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    No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?

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    Sexy, (okay, I like calling mofo "mofo" better than calling you "sexy"... ), I agree with the others; track your food intake. You might want to ditch the protein bar and sub in some real food, but we don't know what your macros turn into.

    Now - that being said, I think you're overtraining. Try three short heavy workouts a week. That plus the HIIT-fuckies ought to be enough.
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    HIIT-fuckies!? lol

    That's a keeper...



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    I kinda figured that was non-negotiable...
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    when I first started reading this I was jealous. I mean if my maitenance was 3500 cals I would be so happy. I get about 1100 calories less than you for my maitenance. But then I saw your diet and realize there is NO WAY you are getting 3500 cals with that diet. Because i eat nearly that much and I am sticking around 2300 cals

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    Quote Originally Posted by workhard1 View Post
    when I first started reading this I was jealous. I mean if my maitenance was 3500 cals I would be so happy. I get about 1100 calories less than you for my maitenance. But then I saw your diet and realize there is NO WAY you are getting 3500 cals with that diet. Because i eat nearly that much and I am sticking around 2300 cals
    My maint is about 3400cals, I cut at 2800cals. I feel bad when people say they feel shit when cutting, cause I normally feel pretty good. I get cravings for pizza at times, but I never really feel hungry.

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    Well the thing is I started tracking my calories with FitDay software. Here's the printout.

    So unless Fitday is wrong, I don't know what else is up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moondogg View Post
    My maint is about 3400cals, I cut at 2800cals. I feel bad when people say they feel shit when cutting, cause I normally feel pretty good. I get cravings for pizza at times, but I never really feel hungry.
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    I will indeed scale down my workouts. I'll do a 3 day split, definitely feel like I'm overtraining a bit.

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    More veggies, ditch the cookie and the protein bar, more protein, less carb.

    Target carbs around your lifting.

    Cycle your carbs high and low if you like.

    To run 15% less than 3500 calories a day on average, you could do something like this for example:

    LBM = 176.4 lbs.
    Maintenance calories: 3500 per day;
    3 lifting days per week.
    A caloric deficit of 3,675 calories per week,
    for a loss of of 1.1 pounds per week

    Average daily macros:
    275g of protein,
    123g of fat, and
    191g of carbohydrate,
    2,975 calories in total.

    (3) Lifting/HIIT days:
    265g of protein,
    88g of fat, and
    343g of carbohydrate,
    3,225 calories in total.

    (4) Rest/Steady State Cardio days:
    282g of protein,
    150g of fat, and
    77g of carbohydrate,
    2,788 calories in total.
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    If you don't fry your chicken that will save you calories to eat something else. Also if you cut out the avocado, you will free up 1000 calories. You could eat a lot of fruit and vegetables for that 1000 calories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    More veggies, ditch the cookie and the protein bar, more protein, less carb.

    Target carbs around your lifting.

    Cycle your carbs high and low if you like.

    To run 15% less than 3500 calories a day on average, you could do something like this for example:

    LBM = 176.4 lbs.
    Maintenance calories: 3500 per day;
    3 lifting days per week.
    A caloric deficit of 3,675 calories per week,
    for a loss of of 1.1 pounds per week

    Average daily macros:
    275g of protein,
    123g of fat, and
    191g of carbohydrate,
    2,975 calories in total.

    (3) Lifting/HIIT days:
    265g of protein,
    88g of fat, and
    343g of carbohydrate,
    3,225 calories in total.

    (4) Rest/Steady State Cardio days:
    282g of protein,
    150g of fat, and
    77g of carbohydrate,
    2,788 calories in total.
    Thank you. This is my first time on a serious, dedicated cut, so I feel like I could use all the help I could get. I appreciate you clarifying how to do the high-low carbs on lifting and non-lifting days.

    I understand how things work in theory, but applying the principles in reality is challenging.

    PS: The cookie and the protein bar was a one time thing...I was on the go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPearson View Post
    If you don't fry your chicken that will save you calories to eat something else. Also if you cut out the avocado, you will free up 1000 calories. You could eat a lot of fruit and vegetables for that 1000 calories
    Yea, but I thought the whole point of eating avocado is to get in some clean fats into your diet? That's the only reason that item is on the menu; to bring my fat intake up.

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    healthy fat is all good but total calories is still king

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    I eat avocado almost every day while cutting. It's satiating.

    Sexy, feel free to fiddle with the high and the low, the carbs/fat grams/protein for your comfort. I'm just offering you an option.
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