I'm Full And I Don't Want To Be

**kyoun1e** · 02-17-2009, 02:57 PM

I'm 40, 6-2, 208 and I work out probaby 5 times a week. Usually around 11 AM. I have a pretty vigorous volume workout that should have me eating like a horse, but I'm constantly full on what I think isn't a ton of food.

My goals are to increase muscle. I calculated my BMR to be aprx 2350 calories per day, so I'd guess I'd need 2500-2800 calories per day to build muscle.

I gotta say, getting to 2500 seems challenging.

Here's my typical day eating wise:

* 8 AM: .5 cups oatmeal, banana, 2 amplified creatine pills
* 10 AM: 4 slices roast beef rolled in provalone cheese
* 11 AM: Workout
* 1 PM: Lunch -- 1.5 scoops wheybolic protien, chicken salad
* 4 PM: Snack -- Apple, 2-4 slices roast beef and cheese
* 7 PM: Dinner -- good 8 oz of meat wherever I can find it, veggies
* 9 PM: Snack -- try to find some almonds, mixed nuts

Today, I hate a chicken salad loaded with beans and veggies and I'm still stuffed at 5 PM...I just don't think I can deal with a snack.

Does this make sense understanding my workout routine, my age/size, and diet?

Has my metabolism slowed to a crawl?

Something just doesn't seem right. I see guys post who are eating 3500 calories and weight 150.

Please provide some direction.

Thanks.

KY

**Ngordyn** · 02-17-2009, 03:03 PM

easiest way would be to through some carbs into your diet , all your food is protein and fat based which sits heavier making you full you can keep it that way but throwing carbs in there is a great way to allow you to eat more throw 2-4 pieces of toast in with your 8 AM meal

**kyoun1e** · 02-17-2009, 03:07 PM

The problem there is that I'm also trying to reach the 1g of protien per lb of body weight -- 208+g per day. And I'd rather eat real food vs. chug another protien shake. As it is, I'm just surpassing that threshold daily.

I like the idea of adding more carbs in the morning...although I never used to eat breakfast so my digestive system is currently saying, "What the hell are you doing?"

KY

**Built** · 02-17-2009, 05:15 PM

The protein target is a gram per pound lean mass, as a minimum.

Increase your carbs, they make you hungry.

**kyoun1e** · 02-17-2009, 06:41 PM

Carbs, carbs, carbs...

So far today, 2200 calories...and I think I'm done with eating at about 8:40.

103 g from fat
166 g from carbs
186 g from protien

Some carb info from today:

* 27 g from oats in the am
* 53 from 2 bananas
* 30 from black beans in my chicken salad
* 18 from meatloaf
* 9 from green and red peppers in chicken salad

166 g from carbs...is this way light? Any recos on some carbs I can slip in there?

Thanks.

KY

**Built** · 02-17-2009, 08:12 PM

White rice. White bread. White noodles.
Dextrose - toss a scoop or two in your post workout shake
Lower fibre content starches.

**kyoun1e** · 02-18-2009, 06:45 AM

Built,

Really need a gut check on my calorie intake.

Understanding my goals, does 2500 - 2700 sound right for someone with my profile (40, 6-2, 208)?

I want to make sure I hit the zone correctly consistently.

Thanks.

KY

**Ngordyn** · 02-18-2009, 01:34 PM

thats not that high for someone of your profile especially if your trying to bulk

i bulk at 2500 and i weigh 157 right now

**Built** · 02-18-2009, 02:10 PM

You're just going to have to track your intake, kyoun1e, and monitor your weight and tummy fluff.

**largepkg** · 02-18-2009, 02:16 PM

Wow, I'm 6'4 235 and my maintenance is 3500- 3800. On a bulk I go up to 5000.

I can't imagine 2500 is enough to achieve bulk for you but hey everyone is different.

**kyoun1e** · 02-18-2009, 05:44 PM

How old are all of you?

Besides working out, what are you doing all day?

I ask this because I wonder if my age (40) and profession (desk job) impact my caloric needs.

I can't even imagine eating 3000 calories consistently.

Another question, when you eat, are you hungry? Do you feel like you're stuffing yourself? Or did you originally feel like that and then your body adjusted?

I'm just trying to understand here if a) things have changed due to my age, or b) I'm just trying to work through a period of adjustment.

Thanks

KY

**Built** · 02-18-2009, 05:57 PM

I'm 45, but I'm female and cutting, so don't mind me.

My husband is 42, weighs 185 and his maintenance is 2700. We both have desk jobs.

**kyoun1e** · 02-18-2009, 06:09 PM

Wow.

**Built** · 02-18-2009, 06:23 PM

Wow, what?

**kyoun1e** · 02-18-2009, 06:26 PM

Wow...I'm either miscalculating my calories on the low side or my ancestors ate nothing but nuts and berries.

I'm going to be interested to see if things change as I slowly increase the calories.

**Built** · 02-18-2009, 06:28 PM

Are you weighing your food?

**kyoun1e** · 02-18-2009, 06:30 PM

Nope.

Eyeballing it and using Fitday.

I have been going as far to repeatedly pull out the 1/2 and 1 cups out of the drawer.

**highpockets** · 02-19-2009, 08:34 AM

48 years old, 6'8", 249lbs, desk job, caloric maintenance 3,200/day. Lots of cottage cheese, hard boiled eggs, and a few nuts while at work.

**largepkg** · 02-19-2009, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by kyoun1e

How old are all of you?

Besides working out, what are you doing all day?

I ask this because I wonder if my age (40) and profession (desk job) impact my caloric needs.

I can't even imagine eating 3000 calories consistently.

Another question, when you eat, are you hungry? Do you feel like you're stuffing yourself? Or did you originally feel like that and then your body adjusted?

I'm just trying to understand here if a) things have changed due to my age, or b) I'm just trying to work through a period of adjustment.

Thanks

KY

I'm 35 6'4'' 235lbs.
Desk job
Outside of the gym I'm a softball king 3 nights a week.

On maintenance calories I eat normally. Yes, usually I'm hungry. On a bulk I grow to hate food.

My situation is a bit different then most though because I had a gastric bypass 6 years ago. Try shoving 5000 calories into a stomach that can't hold more than 6-8oz of food at any given time!

**kyoun1e** · 02-19-2009, 11:40 AM

I'm starting to think this is going to be an evolution for someone like myself who has FAILED to eat breakfast for years now.

I'm finding that my oatmeal and banana is starting to be accepted with ease and I'm starting to get hungry around 11-12. Previously, I wouldn't even start to get hungry until noon...without eating any breakfast at all.

I'm guessing that my body was going into starvation mode. Not good.

To be honest, I'm surprised I have what I have in terms of muscle and strength at 205 understanding my previous diet.

We'll see how this progresses. With any luck, I'll be eating oatmeal, banana, and four scrambled eggs for breakfast in another month.

Thanks.

KY

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