Eggs

**sara** · 03-17-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Built

That's not what I'm asking though.

I don't understand why you'd eat a meal that leaves you hungry two hours later, when you don't even train until night time.

You must be very, very hungry through the day.

Have you dieted down for a comp before?

I eat every two - three hours everyday as long as im awake..

that usually comes out to be 6-7 meals a day

I dieted with my fiance when he got ready for the North Americans.. I did the same diet as my fiance (but his portions were larger)

**sara** · 03-17-2009, 07:30 PM

The reason why I am hungry 2 hours later.. because my meals are low in fat and digested quickly.. (used for fuel)

**Built** · 03-17-2009, 07:31 PM

Men and women have different needs while dieting. You may not know this and neither may your boyfriend. Satiety is different for women than it is for men. Carbohydrate metabolism is different for women than it is for men.

The way you are dieting down, eating this frequently, carbs and protein for breakfast, low fat... I looked at your training routine too. High rep training, volume work, you post about being hungry - a lot.

It'll work, if you can stand being miserable for prolonged periods of time.

But there are MUCH more comfortable ways to do this. I dieted down to the pic in my tar and my profile and felt very modest discomfort from hunger - and trained quite a bit differently than you are now.

I also did it at forty two, after being fat for twenty years, so trust me when I say me and hunger don't get along.

**Built** · 03-17-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by sara

The reason why I am hungry 2 hours later.. because my meals are low in fat and digested quickly.. (used for fuel)

Which explains why it's so uncomfortable. Compound this with the fact that exercise intensity overstimulates appetite in women (we're different here, too - google Ottawa 2004 exercise intensity appetite to read more on this).

**sara** · 03-17-2009, 07:44 PM

First of all, my fiance is more than aware of the differences between men and women and dieting..he is an awesome trainer and national level bodybuilder ..As far as me being hungry, it is a GOOD thing to be hungry come time for the next meal..I am not starving to death, and I am certainly not miserable, and i have plenty of energy..

Also, I periodically change my workouts for many reasons..I dont recall posting specific amounts of weight and reps on my workouts

anyway..I will end this now by saying you have your way of doing things, and that may have worked for you

**Built** · 03-17-2009, 07:46 PM

Good luck.

**sara** · 03-17-2009, 07:47 PM

Thank you

**Built** · 03-17-2009, 07:55 PM

Listen, you are cutting the way most bodybuilders and figure competitors cut. They don't read the current research and they do things the way they've always been done.

Men generally use anabolics while cutting this way. Women sometimes do, too - but with more problems.

I just came back from the Arnold in Ohio, where I saw first hand the myriad fuckups who threw more and more drugs at shitty training and diet paradigms that didn't deliver. Some of the thirty year olds I have met look like they could be my mother. Heh - or my father. Ugh.

Your workouts are not listed by rep range, to be sure. I do see you're doing bodypart training - and lots of machines, that was the tip off.

Your avatar pic shows you to be in the low twenties of bodyfat and you will need to diet down to around 10% to compete. If you're hungry every two hours NOW, you won't BELIEVE how hungry you will be every two hours ten pounds from now.

You want to believe your boyfriend has the key that nobody else has, I understand.

What you are doing will work (and by work, I mean you'll lose weight, and WAY too much of your muscle) if you can stick to it.

I know that I could not.

Put it this way: a method that works for a genetic freak won't translate well to others, right? But a method that works for the worst case will work for ANYBODY.

I was 40% bodyfat and on metformin (diabetes meds) at 38 years of age.

I was 14% bodyfat and had veins around my navel in my profile pic - at 42 years of age.

I did this by reading and using methods that work for the worst genetics.

If this worked for me, imagine what it would do for you.

**danzik17** · 03-17-2009, 08:28 PM

Listen to Built....she knows her shit, especially when it comes to training women seeing as she is one. Well, at least a gay man trapped in a woman's body. That's the running theory.

Originally Posted by Built

Why not use some other form of protein - what is it about eggwhites that you want, in particular?

Something bad about egg whites I don't know? I eat like 7.5dozen egg whites every week, I love eggs.

**Built** · 03-17-2009, 08:43 PM

Egg-whites are great as a supplemental source of protein - but lousy for satiety.

Not something I'd choose for a cut.

**juggernaut** · 03-17-2009, 09:09 PM

Eat a goddamn steak and call it a day. Added benefit-there's creatine in it.
Might as well eat a piece of paper-you'll get a fuller feeling.

Stop listening to your boyfriend. It's obvious he doesnt really know what he's doing when it comes to you.

**juggernaut** · 03-17-2009, 09:10 PM

and btw-what are the many reasons why you change your workouts? I'm interested to know.

**Built** · 03-17-2009, 09:12 PM

I'm sure he means well Juggernaut.

He's just stuck in the old school - which DOES work. It's just horribly uncomfortable, and you lose too much muscle doing it unless you're on AAS.

**juggernaut** · 03-18-2009, 04:59 AM

when I am cutting, I prefer casein over any other liquid type protein because of the fact that it expands into a gel in the stomach. I usually will eat egg (whites)+1 egg in the AM, about a cup and a 1/2, but I also include 95% lean chopped beef with steak seasoning and a cup of broccoli. It's got some fat that fills me. WTF are people so afraid of fat for?

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