products to aid cutting process

**Floods7** · 04-12-2009, 03:57 PM

I'm starting my cut down phase for the summer. I have been off of creatien for about 4 months now, while I'm a little smaller my muscles look better and harder. I still am lifting hard ans eating well, but I'm about to start intervals and some cutting calories. What supplements would help the cutting process and aid in preserving muscles??

Currently I take:
Animal Pak multi
100% whey

I have some arsenal - X by PMD

I'm looking at getting Optimum Nutrition Fish Oil and amino acids ( AA not for fat loss)

**Ngordyn** · 04-12-2009, 08:01 PM

well before ANYTHING , you need to make sure your diet is in order , and after and only after an EC stack will aid in fat loss and retaining muscle if u can get your hands on it

**Floods7** · 04-12-2009, 08:58 PM

I want something without ephedrine

**Built** · 04-12-2009, 09:20 PM

I'd get back on creatine.

What macros are you running and how are you training?

**Floods7** · 04-12-2009, 09:35 PM

don't know what macros are, my training:
Monday - 25 sec rest in between sets - arms and some back
tue - traditional chest day 1:30 min rest between sets
wed- 25 sec rest in between sets - back and shoulders
thurs- heavy chest 1:30 min rest
fri - 25 sec rest arms and some abs

I don't like the look of creatine, I feel like I look like I have puffy and soft muscles. Since I have been off it I have really hardened up.

**danzik17** · 04-12-2009, 10:22 PM

There's your problem. No knowledge of what you're taking in food wise combined with a poor training program.

Read up on the links in Built's sig and some of the stickies on the DnT and Training forums. You don't need supplements, you need knowledge.

**Built** · 04-13-2009, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Floods7

don't know what macros are,

Okay, there's your first problem...

Originally Posted by Floods7

my training:
Monday - 25 sec rest in between sets - arms and some back
tue - traditional chest day 1:30 min rest between sets
wed- 25 sec rest in between sets - back and shoulders
thurs- heavy chest 1:30 min rest
fri - 25 sec rest arms and some abs

And there's your second problem.

Originally Posted by Floods7

I don't like the look of creatine, I feel like I look like I have puffy and soft muscles. Since I have been off it I have really hardened up.

What kind of creatine were you taking - was it plain monohydrate, or was it a premix?

How come you don't train legs, and why are you doing so much concentration work while cutting?

**Floods7** · 04-15-2009, 12:20 PM

I was taking a premix. I don't train legs cause I trying to heel up a bad knee, I do real light leg training, so I didn't even list it. Its more of physical therapy than a workout.

**Built** · 04-15-2009, 12:47 PM

How about the other issues I addressed?

**Merkaba** · 04-15-2009, 01:53 PM

**Floods7** · 04-15-2009, 03:32 PM

which one did i miss?

**Built** · 04-15-2009, 04:35 PM

The one about doing lots of concentration work while cutting.

**T_man** · 04-15-2009, 04:49 PM

and the diet

**Floods7** · 04-16-2009, 03:25 PM

I dont see what the difference is on the concentration work, I am working those muscles in a superset and interval fashion. What do you recommend.

**T_man** · 04-16-2009, 03:40 PM

dont do isolation, or much of it

do compounds

**Built** · 04-16-2009, 11:46 PM

^ Bingo. Save your strength for the stuff that counts.

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