So I got some of my gear today.
NPP, MAST P and TEST S can be seen in the pics bellow.
It has came to my attention all 4 vials of Mast have less liquid in them than the rest of vials. If I was to estimate each vial is missing ~1.5ml. Now 1.5x4= 6ml.
Then I let the powder in Test S to set, and noticed this. It appears that one vial is very underdosed. More like 40mg/ml NOT 100mg/ml (if others are dossed correctly)
did you actually measure them? I'm not caing you a liar, as the pics are right in front of me, but some could very well have been over-filled and the rest are 10mL.
only way we'll find out the truth is if you have them lab tested, or run them and get back to us.
So I got some of my gear today.
NPP, MAST P and TEST S can be seen in the pics bellow.
It has came to my attention all 4 vials of Mast have less liquid in them than the rest of vials. If I was to estimate each vial is missing ~1.5ml. Now 1.5x4= 6ml.
Then I let the powder in Test S to set, and noticed this. It appears that one vial is very underdosed. More like 40mg/ml NOT 100mg/ml (if others are dossed correctly)
make a ticket please....the inconsistencies of fill amounts of the original batches that were for the email sale were addressed and prices were drastically reduced, but EK will still take care of you anyway.....
Last edited by irish_2003; 07-29-2011 at 01:32 PM.
did you actually measure them? I'm not caing you a liar, as the pics are right in front of me, but some could very well have been over-filled and the rest are 10mL.
only way we'll find out the truth is if you have them lab tested, or run them and get back to us.
I didn't measure them nor run them yet.
But I doubt that 20 other vials are overfilled while 4 are filled correctly.
That was from EK email sale, had to wait about 12 days.
I also placed an order through the website for DP gear. A week ago I've changed it to Sciroxx however it hasn't even been shipped yet.
i'm glad you were able to switch them out for your website order.....i never used any sciroxx yet, but many people like it.....i may have to open my piggy bank up
So I got some of my gear today.
NPP, MAST P and TEST S can be seen in the pics bellow.
It has came to my attention all 4 vials of Mast have less liquid in them than the rest of vials. If I was to estimate each vial is missing ~1.5ml. Now 1.5x4= 6ml.
Then I let the powder in Test S to set, and noticed this. It appears that one vial is very underdosed. More like 40mg/ml NOT 100mg/ml (if others are dossed correctly)
Agreed ^^^
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nice to see you know your work that if the level of ml is low it means its underdosed? read about it and then come back and make a post
however im ready to ship new npp mast to you but test s no im not you could contact me by pm but obviously its more important for you to make a post and shoting yourself with that saying its 40mg/ml because its less ml did you have maked labtest?
Originally Posted by Dannie
So I got some of my gear today.
NPP, MAST P and TEST S can be seen in the pics bellow.
It has came to my attention all 4 vials of Mast have less liquid in them than the rest of vials. If I was to estimate each vial is missing ~1.5ml. Now 1.5x4= 6ml.
Then I let the powder in Test S to set, and noticed this. It appears that one vial is very underdosed. More like 40mg/ml NOT 100mg/ml (if others are dossed correctly)
nice to see you know your work that if the level of ml is low it means its underdosed? read about it and then come back and make a post
I didn't say that Mast is was under dosed. I said that each vial holds ~1.5ml less than other vials I've received.
Originally Posted by euroking
however im ready to ship new npp mast to you but test s no im not you could contact me by pm but obviously its more important for you to make a post...
I've not made this thread to give your business a bad name, just though its something worth sharing with the community.
I didnt expect to but you have addressed the problem, and offered replacements so thers no way your business gonnna suffer from this.
Originally Posted by euroking
...and shoting yourself with that saying its 40mg/ml because its less ml did you have maked labtest?
I am not concerned about ml content of Test S. Most of the vials seam to be over-filled, almost to the cap
However the amount of powder in 2nd vial from the left (on 2nd and 3rd picture) seams to be 40% of whats in other vials.
The only compound I've ran among the three you listed is the DP Mast Prop (from EK) which I ordered from their email sale before the last one - sometime back in May. The order arrived in a timely fashion and all vials had consistent levels of gear in them. I had 4 or 5 Mast Props and 4 DP Test Cyps. The quality of the gear itself was definately gtg. Hopefully yours is too. I know it's a project but have you considered drawing out all compounds from each vial just to get more of an accurate measurement of gear volume as opposed to judging on the naked eye alone? Yes, it certainly would be concerning to receive the same compound from the same lab and source with a significant variation in volume levels; however, I believe if any sponsor is to make a good faith effort to work with you on this, it would be EK. (No, I'm not on EK's payroll lol). I personally have never had such kind of an issue - and hope I never do - so it could be "just an anomaly." Let us know how things pan out for you, etc.
nice to see you know your work that if the level of ml is low it means its underdosed? read about it and then come back and make a post
however im ready to ship new npp mast to you but test s no im not you could contact me by pm but obviously its more important for you to make a post and shoting yourself with that saying its 40mg/ml because its less ml did you have maked labtest?
He is not doing anything inappropriate at all here. making a post with pictures shows that he is being extremely open. you can complain all you want that you want him to send a PM instead of posting pics, but the onus is on you due to the evidence shown. everyone else can make their own conclusions based upon the pictures.
Originally Posted by IainDaniel
Here is what you need to worry about. Eat, Lift, Rest. Repeat.
This should be really simple, stop over complicating it.
The only compound I've ran among the three you listed is the DP Mast Prop (from EK) which I ordered from their email sale before the last one - sometime back in May. The order arrived in a timely fashion and all vials had consistent levels of gear in them. I had 4 or 5 Mast Props and 4 DP Test Cyps. The quality of the gear itself was definately gtg. Hopefully yours is too. I know it's a project but have you considered drawing out all compounds from each vial just to get more of an accurate measurement of gear volume as opposed to judging on the naked eye alone? Yes, it certainly would be concerning to receive the same compound from the same lab and source with a significant variation in volume levels; however, I believe if any sponsor is to make a good faith effort to work with you on this, it would be EK. (No, I'm not on EK's payroll lol). I personally have never had such kind of an issue - and hope I never do - so it could be "just an anomaly." Let us know how things pan out for you, etc.
make a ticket please....the inconsistencies of fill amounts of the original batches that were for the email sale were addressed and prices were drastically reduced, but EK will still take care of you anyway.....
Hold on a sec...I didn't get to really look at or measure the oil levels of my DP email sale stash....if they are all uneven I can still submit a ticket for this even tho I got it a few months ago...??
If they are all uneven filled, I will provide pics to EK...let me know!
Hold on a sec...I didn't get to really look at or measure the oil levels of my DP email sale stash....if they are all uneven I can still submit a ticket for this even tho I got it a few months ago...??
If they are all uneven filled, I will provide pics to EK...let me know!
guys please go back and read the posts from EK on these from several months ago.....no need to bump every thread regarding this....i'm having a bad day today!