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    Smile Euroking Gear Bulk Cycle (Intermediate)

    Hello guys, I'm new to Ironmagazine forums but will be consistent member on here now on. I am looking forward to use EK gear's and would like support from all of you and will provide feedback on my cycles.

    Experience (NON EK gear):
    2 cycles
    (1 bulk) - Dbol + Test E (clomid + tamox for PCT)
    (1 cut) - Test P + Test E + Tbol + Winny + Masteron P (clomid + tamox for PCT)


    Bulk Cycle Fall 2012:

    Week 1-6 30mg ED Dbol (Gen Shi)
    Week 1-8 400mg/week Deca (Gen Shi)
    Week 1-3 350mg/week Test P (?????)
    Week 1-8 500mg/week Test E (Aburaihan)
    Week 9-12 750mg/week Test E (Abruaihan)
    Week 9-12 100mg EOD Masteron P (other ugl - finish it up)
    Week 13-14 400mg/week Test P (?????)
    Week 13-14 50mg ED Winny (Gen Shi)
    Week 10-14 500iu/week HCG
    Week 15-19 Clomid + Tamox

    Adding:
    Clen + Test P + HCG (not sure best dosage and where to put for best results)

    PCT:
    Clomid + Tamox (need help for best dosage for this length cycle)


    Nutrition:
    Calories - 25-30x bodyweight (slowly go up)
    Protein - 2g/lb x bodyweight (approx)
    Carbs - 3g/lb x bodyweight (approx)
    Fats - 0.7/lb x bodyweight (approx)

    Example:
    170lbs x 2g protein = 1360calories
    170lbs x 3g carbs = 2040calories
    170lbs x 0.7g fats = 1017calories

    Total Calories = 4417calories
    31% Protein // 46% Carbs // 23% Fats



    This cycle and nutrition needs a lot of re-vision and would like your support!

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    i'd get some prami to run with the Deca. And I would personally front load the test prop for 5 weeks.

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    is personaly run the deca longer also as its a longer ester. ur going to start seeing results 4 or 5 week maybe a little sooner so that doesn't give a lot of time to maximize ur gains from it

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    Quote Originally Posted by longworthb View Post
    is personaly run the deca longer also as its a longer ester. ur going to start seeing results 4 or 5 week maybe a little sooner so that doesn't give a lot of time to maximize ur gains from it

    Thank you bro. $$$ is also kind of an issue but I will try. How long to run it for you? Have you used it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63 View Post
    i'd get some prami to run with the Deca. And I would personally front load the test prop for 5 weeks.

    Thanks bro. How is the dosage for the the Test prop ya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 604Guy View Post
    Thank you bro. $$$ is also kind of an issue but I will try. How long to run it for you? Have you used it?
    Stop a week before the test e so that would be 11 weeks which should suffice, for me 10 weeks worked well started getting good gains 6+ weeks in so eleven should be a good sweet spot and it will clear out around same time as your test e so your pct isn't fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 604Guy View Post
    Thanks bro. How is the dosage for the the Test prop ya think?

    Prop dose looks good bro... I run mine a little higher, but I like to push things to the limits a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63 View Post
    Prop dose looks good bro... I run mine a little higher, but I like to push things to the limits a little

    Thanks bro - I have used test prop 400mg/week for 3 weeks to front load before. I just didnt want to have left over vials opened for too long..i heard its not good?

    Is it better to run longer till 6 weeks?

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    Yeah, I'd run the prop for 5 or 6 weeks... and that's when the magic will happen with your test e... you know?

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    Just my opinion but three weeks should be okay on the prop where you got dbol for six weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Guy View Post
    Just my opinion but three weeks should be okay on the prop where you got dbol for six weeks

    thanks bro. have you used both for your previous cycles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63 View Post
    Yeah, I'd run the prop for 5 or 6 weeks... and that's when the magic will happen with your test e... you know?

    Yea I know what you mean bro.. some people say they make gains in the first 4 weeks but I dont see that.

    I start gaining around weeks 4-7..
    then it starts slowing down till weeks 9-10 and..hard to make gains after then after that it kind of stops.. this is with 500mg/week experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 604Guy View Post
    thanks bro. have you used both for your previous cycles?
    Yes. But as pitts63 is saying everyone reacts differently

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    Quote Originally Posted by 604Guy View Post
    Yea I know what you mean bro.. some people say they make gains in the first 4 weeks but I dont see that.

    I start gaining around weeks 4-7..
    then it starts slowing down till weeks 9-10 and..hard to make gains after then after that it kind of stops.. this is with 500mg/week experience.
    Once again just an opinion but try increasing your dose by 25% after ten weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Guy View Post
    Once again just an opinion but try increasing your dose by 25% after ten weeks
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    Yes. But as pitts63 is saying everyone reacts differently
    right on bro. thanks littleguy.

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    EQ VS DECA?? which one?

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    deca or NPP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordsks View Post
    deca or NPP
    You like npp bro? I know dbol, deca, and test is basic bulk?

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    Front load all your prop with dbol. Start your higher dose of test e earlier. Run deca longer. Just an opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 604Guy View Post
    Hello guys, I'm new to Ironmagazine forums but will be consistent member on here now on. I am looking forward to use EK gear's and would like support from all of you and will provide feedback on my cycles.

    Experience (NON EK gear):
    2 cycles
    (1 bulk) - Dbol + Test E (clomid + tamox for PCT)
    (1 cut) - Test P + Test E + Tbol + Winny + Masteron P (clomid + tamox for PCT)


    Bulk Cycle Fall 2012:

    Week 1-6 30mg ED Dbol (Gen Shi)
    Week 1-8 400mg/week Deca (Gen Shi)
    Week 1-3 350mg/week Test P (?????)
    Week 1-8 500mg/week Test E (Aburaihan)
    Week 9-12 750mg/week Test E (Abruaihan)
    Week 9-12 100mg EOD Masteron P (other ugl - finish it up)
    Week 13-14 400mg/week Test P (?????)
    Week 13-14 50mg ED Winny (Gen Shi)
    Week 10-14 500iu/week HCG
    Week 15-19 Clomid + Tamox

    Adding:
    Clen + Test P + HCG (not sure best dosage and where to put for best results)

    PCT:
    Clomid + Tamox (need help for best dosage for this length cycle)


    Nutrition:
    Calories - 25-30x bodyweight (slowly go up)
    Protein - 2g/lb x bodyweight (approx)
    Carbs - 3g/lb x bodyweight (approx)
    Fats - 0.7/lb x bodyweight (approx)

    Example:
    170lbs x 2g protein = 1360calories
    170lbs x 3g carbs = 2040calories
    170lbs x 0.7g fats = 1017calories

    Total Calories = 4417calories
    31% Protein // 46% Carbs // 23% Fats



    This cycle and nutrition needs a lot of re-vision and would like your support!
    Yes I'm thinking this:

    Week 1-6 30mg ED Dbol (Gen Shi)
    Week 1-11 400mg/week Deca (Gen Shi)
    Week 1-6 350mg/week Test P (?????)
    Week 1-7 500mg/week Test E (Aburaihan)
    Week 8-12 750mg/week Test E (Abruaihan)
    Week 9-12 100mg EOD Masteron P (other ugl - finish it up)
    Week 13-14 400mg/week Test P (?????)
    Week 13-14 50mg ED Winny (Gen Shi)
    Week 10-14 500iu/week HCG
    Week 15-19 Clomid + Tamox

    how does that look?

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    very nice!!

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    you don't run hcg thru out the cycle? only at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordsks View Post
    you don't run hcg thru out the cycle? only at the end.
    you mean i should do it only at the end for HCG?

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    No I run it starting a week in and continue up until PCT. Not just at the end. I look at it like keeping a tickle charge on a battery and not trying to jump start a dead battery at the end.

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    I like running HCG starting the second week of my cycle. Since I started, I won't cycle without it again.

    Good luck 604guy! Kill it bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordsks View Post
    No I run it starting a week in and continue up until PCT. Not just at the end. I look at it like keeping a tickle charge on a battery and not trying to jump start a dead battery at the end.

    wow... nice analogy

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