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    What is it like at say a high dose of 600-800 a week ... Is it worth it ?

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    i think you have plenty of mast with just the cutmix amount personally....

    here for when you add in cardio...enjoy


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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    i think you have plenty of mast with just the cutmix amount personally....

    here for when you add in cardio...enjoy
    advice taken and will go with the amount in the cut mix... thanks

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    1cc cutmix eod with an extra cc of tren eod will blow ur sox off

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinyshrek View Post
    1cc cutmix eod with an extra cc of tren eod will blow ur sox off
    it will be 1cc of cut mix ed ... with some added prop ... prepping for a show

    http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/eu...-19-weeks.html

    here is my log which lists my run

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    Me too I'm exactly 9 weeks out. That why I don't like extra prop. Less water retention for me Anyways. At two weeks out cut the prop and just run mast and tren with winny so we will see I'm stoked my first show

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    no need to drop water that far out...4-5 weeks is plenty...and especially the last couple weeks...no offense guys, but if this is your first show i'd rather you didn't give contest cycle advice...

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    Mast at 350-500mg weekly is sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    i think you have plenty of mast with just the cutmix amount personally....

    here for when you add in cardio...enjoy


    listening to the 2nd while I clan the kitchen and eat some oats ... thanks

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    Just because this is my first show doesn't mean I haven't dieted two other times as if I was going to or talked to numerous people who actually compete, not board reps

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    water retention is more about ai's and anti e's than the test or ester itself..you can run oils all the way thru for almost everyone...i do online consulting and training and have prepped both men and women and understanding each person is different the general consensus is to run the oils up til 2 weeks out OR i prefer til wed of last week of carb deplete, then only run orals, ancillaries, and if needed diuretics during carb up thru-sat...this is all assuming they're already in shape at 30 days out

    i just reread your post a little closer...i see what you're saying now which is similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    water retention is more about ai's and anti e's than the test or ester itself..you can run oils all the way thru for almost everyone...i do online consulting and training and have prepped both men and women and understanding each person is different the general consensus is to run the oils up til 2 weeks out OR i prefer til wed of last week of carb deplete, then only run orals, ancillaries, and if needed diuretics during carb up thru-sat...this is all assuming they're already in shape at 30 days out

    i just reread your post a little closer...i see what you're saying now which is similar
    Very true. I just hold more water on prop than without. Easier for me as I don't like taking diuretic. Just OTC one for me

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    Loving the 50mg/day in the mast.

    However, I'm curious about what going with 100mg/day in the future. I'm not as interested in increased muscle hardness as much as the CNS protection and healing properties. 50/day is doing a great job so far.

    Another positive with only 50mg/day is that even with test and tren, in spite of being prone to gyno...there hasn't been the first sign of it. In spite of sexual function being negatively effected from any dose of test higher than 500mg...not a problem this time at all...in fact better erections in the last month than even with cialis in the last couple of years.

    So yeah, the amount in cutmix is good...but perhaps, a slightly higher dose would be even better. When I know, I'll let ya know. If anyone uses high doses, please share the knowledge.
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    700 mg/wk mast is magical when your 10% or lower Ohhhh how I love it so

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    Plan on running it 700/wk in my cut mix blend. 700 Prop and 350 tren. Just going to add in extra prop and tren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    Plan on running it 700/wk in my cut mix blend. 700 Prop and 350 tren. Just going to add in extra prop and tren.

    Lower the prop increase the tren, and thank me later !! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    Lower the prop increase the tren, and thank me later !! Lol

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    Told ya bro! More tren less prop

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    Lower the prop increase the tren, and thank me later !! Lol

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    Problem with that is I'm going to be doing a LOT of cardio. I could run 50P 75T and 100M ED. But I feel like that would affect my cardio.

    Only reason I'm running tren at all is because I wanted to run a log of the cut mix for EK.

    I do want to try the low test high tren thing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    Problem with that is I'm going to be doing a LOT of cardio. I could run 50P 75T and 100M ED. But I feel like that would affect my cardio.

    Only reason I'm running tren at all is because I wanted to run a log of the cut mix for EK.

    I do want to try the low test high tren thing though.

    even with the cardio it will only hinder you some, not much more or less than the way you were planning on running it, but if you want to give cut mix a good review I understand, but running high mast high tren and low-medium prop you will look different day by day

    not gte some t3 and clen and rock this bitch
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    I don't know where this tren cardio thing came about??? Im running it and doing 2 45 minute sessions of cardio 6 days a week. My blood pressure is 132 over 79. I'm in the best cardiovascular condition of my life! Clen helps too

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    I was doing 10 sessions of cardio per week on Tren no problem except my sleep was all messed up and I wanted to kill everyone.
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    i'm not allowed to run tren ever again without adding mast AND proviron...only so much beating a girls pussy can take without me nuttin

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    i think you have plenty of mast with just the cutmix amount personally....

    here for when you add in cardio...enjoy


    Great Post I agree with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    i'm not allowed to run tren ever again without adding mast AND proviron...only so much beating a girls pussy can take without me nuttin
    Understand that thought completely .... Its hell, got a boy of mine suffering now and so is his fiance... Said he cannot nut for nothing, tren jacks his getting off up big time ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    i'm not allowed to run tren ever again without adding mast AND proviron...only so much beating a girls pussy can take without me nuttin

    LOL I thought I was the only one! Sometimes I get o worn out trying I just fake it and roll over 2 hours later haha
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    i've given up many times...luckily my gf is a competitor herself and she knows the deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Have you tried Caber or Prami?
    no, i'm not a user of ancillaries except to drop water...

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    no, i'm not a user of ancillaries except to drop water...
    It's funny do some people just not get progesterone effects? I get a lil flare from test, dbol drol, but never from deca or tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    no, i'm not a user of ancillaries except to drop water...
    Both seem to help with male ejaculation. Basically they shorten the refractory period between orgasms and they also posses pro-sexual effects. They primarily work through lowering Prolactin and are dopamine agonists. The pro-sexual effects are well documented.
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