Thread: T3 and NYC for a woman?

Originally Posted by heartofalion

So my wife is just about done breast feeding after a very difficult preganancy in which she gained 40ish lbs that she has not lost since. Obviously, she wont be taking anything while breast feeding, but I want to put her plan together for when she's ready. In the meantime I'm working with her to get her diet dialed in.

I've used T3 very successfully myself, and was thinking a 6 week T3 cycle beginning at 12.5mcg, ramping up to 50mcg, then back down to 12.5mcg. How would this be for her?

I also use the NYC stack frequently (Adipokinetix). Better than an EC stack from all the research I've done. This I am not sure of the dosage for a woman. It's 20mg norephedrine, 150mg caffeine and yohimbine per cap. I do 3 at the most. Ill start her off with 1, then 2. Is 3 too much for a woman?

I'm hoping to help her make some impressive progress in a few months so that shes motivated to continue with it.

Couple comments - diet & training/cardio is going to be the foundation. Since we're talking about someone w/ a new baby and raging hormones trying to settle back to normal. That's going to be time & stress that doesn't always lend itself well to keeping to a regular diet & training protocol. Throwing drugs into a mediocre diet & training isn't going to produce great results.

I would start by probably by getting clearance on thyroid before self-medicating. I don't know anything about your wife, but estrogen, birth, women -- all of that is basically leaving whacked out body chemistry. Things like postpartum thyroiditis have potential to be in the equation. Make sure you're starting from a normal point before you start screwing w/ foundation hormones. Get a blood test and clearance from a doc that everything is stable.

Honestly, I'd just not go there w/ the t3 -- just because of all the chemistry still trying to settle and also that it tends to metabolize everything - fat & muscle. Most people don't recommend running it w/o an AAS because of the catabolism. And I don't recommend throwing steroids into the mix for your wife. Please have her do some research on use of t3 for weightloss.

NYC - granted they changed the "really good" Adipokinetix around 2002, its still a stim. It matters more how well it works w/ her body chemistry. Some stims work great for one person, and make another person sick to their stomach, or anxious, or whatever. Also the amount of stim - whatever she ends up using, go by HER RESPONSE, not how much you can take. Its not important to jack up the dose. Particularly w/ stuff based on Y because it very commonly can make you nauseous if you take too much of it. (not too hard to research: http://www.ehow.com/about_5476210_yo...s-muscles.html). "Too much" doesn't have to be a lot. I know I've felt my stomach feel like it is a fist knotting up if I use too much.

I'd really start w/ just getting a solid & consistent diet & cardio / training program going. Be very conservative w/ anything else and have her pay very close to attention to how she feels. For ex, stims shouldn't be interfering w/ getting good sleep or adding to the daily stress / anxiety levels. T3 at those doses is generally not considered aggressive - but get the blood work done first as her body can easy need on the order of a year to get everything back to stable levels after a pregnancy.

Thanks for the thorough response. I left some thoughts below...

Originally Posted by sassy69

Couple comments - diet & training/cardio is going to be the foundation. Since we're talking about someone w/ a new baby and raging hormones trying to settle back to normal. That's going to be time & stress that doesn't always lend itself well to keeping to a regular diet & training protocol. Throwing drugs into a mediocre diet & training isn't going to produce great results.

I would start by probably by getting clearance on thyroid before self-medicating. I don't know anything about your wife, but estrogen, birth, women -- all of that is basically leaving whacked out body chemistry. Things like postpartum thyroiditis have potential to be in the equation. Make sure you're starting from a normal point before you start screwing w/ foundation hormones. Get a blood test and clearance from a doc that everything is stable.

Honestly, I'd just not go there w/ the t3 -- just because of all the chemistry still trying to settle and also that it tends to metabolize everything - fat & muscle. Most people don't recommend running it w/o an AAS because of the catabolism. And I don't recommend throwing steroids into the mix for your wife. Please have her do some research on use of t3 for weightloss. I'm feeling the same way about the T3. Hell, even with near a gram of Tren a day and 350mg Test A week, I notice an inability to put on significant muscle. We can leave T3 out of the equation.

NYC - granted they changed the "really good" Adipokinetix around 2002, its still a stim. It matters more how well it works w/ her body chemistry. Some stims work great for one person, and make another person sick to their stomach, or anxious, or whatever. Also the amount of stim - whatever she ends up using, go by HER RESPONSE, not how much you can take. Its not important to jack up the dose. Particularly w/ stuff based on Y because it very commonly can make you nauseous if you take too much of it. (not too hard to research: Is Yohimbine Unsafe or Dangerous for Muscles? | eHow.com). "Too much" doesn't have to be a lot. I know I've felt my stomach feel like it is a fist knotting up if I use too much. This is the "really good" Adipokinetix, MP's clone anyway. Her main concern is appetite suppression, as she has a hell of an appetite. I'm hoping the NYC makes an impact here.

I'd really start w/ just getting a solid & consistent diet & cardio / training program going. Be very conservative w/ anything else and have her pay very close to attention to how she feels. For ex, stims shouldn't be interfering w/ getting good sleep or adding to the daily stress / anxiety levels. T3 at those doses is generally not considered aggressive - but get the blood work done first as her body can easy need on the order of a year to get everything back to stable levels after a pregnancy.

A gram of Tren a Day!! That's gotta be a typo.. lol.