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    Blood Pressure medicine questions

    I have been battling high blood pressure off and on now for about 2 years. There were periods of time where I was feeling good and it didn't seem to be too much of a bother, lifted heavy, took different supps, what have you. Lately though it has been pretty consistently high and I just seem to be feeling pretty crappy. The diastolic number is usually the problem area, that is usually somewhere in the 90's. The systolic is sometimes high in the 140's or 150's, but usually in the 130's. I'm not sure if this is the only issue at play, I am seeing a homeopathic guy in addition to my regular doc and he says the issue stems from my adrenal glands being overworked. He has me taking some supps right now to help with that, ADHS, Mo-Enzyme (both for the adrenals), EFAs, Amino Acids and Magnesium. No other supplements being taken now. He seems confident this will bring the BP down, but I am really not sure.

    As far as the BP meds, my regular doc put me on Benicar last year. I had some nasty side effects from that, my heart was acting weird and having PVCs, so he got me off it. I wasn't feeling too bad after that for a while. This year after it being high at his office again, he prescribed Lisinopril. While not as bad as the Benicar, that one seemed to kind of mess with my heart too. Only 5 mgs. He had me get off that one too.

    As it's looking right now, I think I may still need to eventually take meds, side effects or not, because I can't let the BP go untreated. Trust me, I have tried just about everything under the sun, cardio, diet, natural supps, breathing techniques. Last check I was around 260, mostly mass, some fat. I could probably lose about 15 lbs of fat, but I honestly don't know if that would drop the BP.

    So who out there uses BP meds and still trains successfully, getting bigger and stronger? Do you have to limit youir supplement intake in any way? Which med do you think is best for bodybuilders? I guess Ace Inhibitors are generally considered best for what we do, but even that seems to make me feel funny, unless the body eventually adapts to it after a while. The 5 mgs. got my BP down, but I noticed it still spiked a lot during my workout and I felt pretty light headed and a strong heartbeat. Maybe need a higher dose, who knows. I just hope I can get it down and still lead a somewhat normal bodybuilding lifestyle, I've done it for so many years. Kind of depressing. Sorry for the length, thank you for any feedback.

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    I've was on Benicar for a coupla years till I changed insurance and it didn't cover it. My doc changed my BP med to Diovan, so my insurance would cover it. Diovan is basically the same thing. I've never had any sides and I've used creatine, whey, and AAS and never had any problems.

    You just have to work with your doc till you find a med that doesn't give you any sides that you can't live with. Once you find the right med, your BB sups shouldn't cause any problems. Just maintain good communication with the doc. High BP isn't something to take lightly.

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    are you retaining water try hydrochlorothiazide, atenolol

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    @ roids1, when do you take the medicine in relation to your workout, i.e. med in the morning, work out in the evening? I took Lisinopril in the morning and trained in the evening. The worst part was my heart was getting weird feelings after the workout,. I guess because of the combined effect of lowered BP after exercise and the med, but who knows. I wish I could find one without any side effects. As far as supplements to avoid, I guess anything that would drastically raise or lower blood pressure?

    @ the Situation, don't know if I am retaining water too much. I don't really think so, probably more from just too many energy supplements over the years.

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    Well I'm not a weightlifter (yet? I guess?) but I've been on lisinopril for the better part of a year now. I'm a statistic - fair, fat, female and (almost) 40. High BP runs in the family too, so I'm fairly screwed.

    I talked to a bunch of people (mostly military so they work out, some real seriously) when i got put on it, and none seemed to have any issues with BP meds after they'd adjusted to it. Took me a couple weeks, then I was fine. My BP, BTW, runs 160-170/90-110 without meds.

    I made my doc split the dosage into 10 mg pills. I take 30 mg total, usually one pill after meals, I'm allowed to go to 40 mg if my BP goes up, but i have to check in if it does for more than a few days in succession.

    The point of my rambling is that no, it doesn't seem to affect weight training, cardio or other exercise. As a matter of fact, most people on it I talked to (about 20 people, 16 work out) take it sometime before working out -- it actually makes working out a little easier (for me, no headaches). One guy who has mysterious migraines got put on it and it works, actually his BP is a little low because of it, and he's a triathlete.

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    I take it in the morning at breakfast time and usually SFW midday. It really doesn't seem to matter when I lift. I've just never noticed any sides such as dizziness, difficulty getting wood, etc. Then again, I never had any symptoms when my bp was high either. My bp was 150-160/90-100 without meds.

    Even when I was running AAS, my bp was normal and I had no sides (on the meds). Sounds like it may be lowering your bp too much. Hard to say. A doc can prolly advise you better than any of us muscle heads here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathybird View Post
    Well I'm not a weightlifter (yet? I guess?) but I've been on lisinopril for the better part of a year now. I'm a statistic - fair, fat, female and (almost) 40. High BP runs in the family too, so I'm fairly screwed.

    I talked to a bunch of people (mostly military so they work out, some real seriously) when i got put on it, and none seemed to have any issues with BP meds after they'd adjusted to it. Took me a couple weeks, then I was fine. My BP, BTW, runs 160-170/90-110 without meds.

    I made my doc split the dosage into 10 mg pills. I take 30 mg total, usually one pill after meals, I'm allowed to go to 40 mg if my BP goes up, but i have to check in if it does for more than a few days in succession.

    The point of my rambling is that no, it doesn't seem to affect weight training, cardio or other exercise. As a matter of fact, most people on it I talked to (about 20 people, 16 work out) take it sometime before working out -- it actually makes working out a little easier (for me, no headaches). One guy who has mysterious migraines got put on it and it works, actually his BP is a little low because of it, and he's a triathlete.


    Hmm, interesting idea about taking it before the workout. That lately seems to be when it bothers me the most is during training, so if I go back on meds, maybe that is the thing to do. Of course if one gets into the habit of doing that, I guess no more pre-workout stimulants, which I suppose isn't good if the BP is high anyway. I was hoping I could take those again at some point in moderation when and if things are normalized, but I don't think it would be good to swallow that and BP meds at the same time. When I was on Lisinopril, I had some coffee within about a half hour or so of taking the med and my heart didn't seem to like that combo.

    You also mentioned the period of adjustment, maybe that is something I need to go through too. I tend to freak out when I got weird feelings from the meds, but maybe that goes away after a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Situation View Post
    are you retaining water try hydrochlorothiazide, atenolol
    These two are very common and atenolol is one of the first meds most docs ever try.
    I am on HCT now along with lotrel. I basically have no problems from them. I went for years trying different medications. Sometimes it takes a while and many tries to get it right.
    Weight palys a huge role in bp. If you would drop some weight, you would see an improvement in bp. Im also guessing you have a family history of it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    These two are very common and atenolol is one of the first meds most docs ever try.
    I am on HCT now along with lotrel. I basically have no problems from them. I went for years trying different medications. Sometimes it takes a while and many tries to get it right.
    Weight palys a huge role in bp. If you would drop some weight, you would see an improvement in bp. Im also guessing you have a family history of it?
    Yeah, my mom had it. Well, it is good to here from guys like you that take meds and don't have any issues. Do you restrict your supplement choices at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulsed1 View Post
    Yeah, my mom had it. Well, it is good to here from guys like you that take meds and don't have any issues. Do you restrict your supplement choices at all?
    No not really, just kinda keep an eye on it. Epistane though did make it skyrocket and I had bad headaches. But that is expected from a methyl. Take extra supps to support bp if you take methyls.




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    From what I read on line from a doctor was that for people who exercise alot it is best to take a Angiotensin Receptor Blockers for HBP which Benicar is one. Diovan is one also so like someone here posted they were swiched to Diovan maybe give that a try. Or any of the other Angiotensin meds like Atacand, Avapro, Cozaar (losartan), Micardis and Teveten.

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    Cut out all sodium. Serious. Count the mg's of sodium you intake in a week and average that into a daily amount.

    Then try a diet with 300mg of sodium or less daily for a couple weeks. It's tough. Pretty much 98% of food that comes with a nutritional label has too much sodium. Don't count any sodium that is in raw foods, ie meats, vegetables, fruits.

    Another option to look into is to see a cardiologist. Some insurance's, PPOs, don't even require a referral. You will get much better treatment.

    And to be frank, you need to be on BP meds. They do take a period of adjustment. But take my diet advice seriously. I speak from experience.

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