Thread: training injury pissssing me off.

Anyone????????????????

I take it no one plays golf lol.

I broke my neck and i am now dead does anyone care.

I'm sorry I wasn't paying attention what did you say? Jk, maybe try some of the sleeves to help keep the joint warm? I don't really know, never played golf. Mayb try some glucosomine, chondroitin, msm. They are for joint health.

Btw, you may want to get the neck looked at, just sayin.

It is not the injury that is pissing you off. It is you who is letting it piss you off. Go see the doctor or do what needs to be done. People get injured but they also get healed over the time. This is not the end of the world for you.

Originally Posted by Bigbully100678

I'm sorry I wasn't paying attention what did you say? Jk, maybe try some of the sleeves to help keep the joint warm? I don't really know, never played golf. Mayb try some glucosomine, chondroitin, msm. They are for joint health.

Btw, you may want to get the neck looked at, just sayin.

Thanks Bigbully, Ive never played golf.
I picked up the injury whilst on a PH cycle. It's would appear that I was lifting more weight than my muscle and tendon anchor point could cope with.
The problem I have now is that I cant do anything that puts stress on the elbows.

As for the neck just joking

Originally Posted by chobby192

It is not the injury that is pissing you off. It is you who is letting it piss you off. Go see the doctor or do what needs to be done. People get injured but they also get healed over the time. This is not the end of the world for you.

Ye point taken chobby. Ive bean to the docs he sent me for physio, Ive had 1 session to date, a bit of massage and 5 minutes ultrasound.
I posted on here because golfers elbow is apparently more prevalent in the world of weight lifting than golf, something to do with the muscle and tendon anchor points being over stressed.
The physio told me to stay away from the weights until it as completely healed, or it never will heal.
Just wondering if anyone else as suffered from this and if so what did they do to help recovery, or did they train throught it?

If the pain is to a point where you can't even do anything as far as working out, you would be wise to take your physicians advice and not do anything until its healed. Did the ultrasound reveal anything?

Originally Posted by Bigbully100678

I'm sorry I wasn't paying attention what did you say? Jk, maybe try some of the sleeves to help keep the joint warm? I don't really know, never played golf. Mayb try some glucosomine, chondroitin, msm. They are for joint health.

Btw, you may want to get the neck looked at, just sayin.

It is good idea to take above supplements in massive dose for a long period of time to see result. Also take some fish oils.

Originally Posted by Bigbully100678

If the pain is to a point where you can't even do anything as far as working out, you would be wise to take your physicians advice and not do anything until its healed. Did the ultrasound reveal anything?

Ye I know your right Bigbully about not training, but you know what it,s like you just dont want bto listen.

As for the ultasound this will explane it better than me.

What is therapeutic ultrasound?
Therapeutic ultrasound as a treatment modality that has been used by therapists over the last 50 years to treat soft tissue injuries. Ultrasonic waves (sound waves of a high frequency) are produced by means of mechanical vibration of the metal treatment head of the ultrasound machine. This treatment head is then moved over the surface of the skin in the region of the injury. When sound waves come into contact with air it causes a dissipation of the waves, and so a special ultrasound gel is placed on the skin to ensure maximal contact between the treatment head and the surface of the skin.

The effects of therapeutic ultrasound are still being disputed. To date, there is still very little evidence to explain how ultrasound causes a therapeutic effect in injured tissue. Nevertheless practitioners world wide continue to use this treatment modality relying on personal experience rather than scientific evidence. Below are a number of the theories by which ultrasound is proposed to cause a therapeutic effect.

Originally Posted by chobby192

It is good idea to take above supplements in massive dose for a long period of time to see result. Also take some fish oils.

The thing is that these supplements work well on the joints. Golfers elbow is a problem with connective tissue not the joint itself.

I had the same problem when I was messing round arm wrestling. I tried to keep training but it wasn't getting better so just gave it a rest and worked on legs and cardio for a couple of weeks.

if you don't let it heal properly, it will keep coming back

My nhs physio said it could take up to a year to heal.

By then my legs will have got bigger and my upper body smaller, What a sight that will be lol.

Swollen bursa sacs take a while to heal, its what causes "tennis elbow/golf elbow"

As im sure you prob already know, its a sac of liquid within the elbow joint that takes the pressure of movement.

With high pressure activities, such as skull crushers, or repetitive movements, it can become swollen and quite painful

There is a pretty painful procedure if it gets bad enough, where a doctor will drain the excess fluid with a needle.. they put it pretty damn far into the back of the elbow.

Besides that, my personal cure for it is rest and anti inflammatory drugs. Such as ibuprofen or cordico-steroids.

OK Ive been for my 2nd physio session today and i got the head man, who just happens to be a member of a local weightlifting gym. So he understands my impatience.
He did not do any physio he just gave me a cortisone injection in the elbow and said I should be lifting light weights in 10/14 days.

Originally Posted by joboco

Ye point taken chobby. Ive bean to the docs he sent me for physio, Ive had 1 session to date, a bit of massage and 5 minutes ultrasound.
I posted on here because golfers elbow is apparently more prevalent in the world of weight lifting than golf, something to do with the muscle and tendon anchor points being over stressed.
The physio told me to stay away from the weights until it as completely healed, or it never will heal.
Just wondering if anyone else as suffered from this and if so what did they do to help recovery, or did they train throught it?

standing bi's versus lean-overs might take the stress off the elbows might help a bit....I never stop training and lifting and I play semi-pro baseball 3 times a week. Its prob just wear and tear from your gear and your muscles growing quicker than they are used to - just me though - GL bro!

cortisone shot?

Originally Posted by DecaConstruction

standing bi's versus lean-overs might take the stress off the elbows might help a bit....I never stop training and lifting and I play semi-pro baseball 3 times a week. Its prob just wear and tear from your gear and your muscles growing quicker than they are used to - just me though - GL bro!

Thanks for the concern bro.
Ye it started during a PH cycle and just got worse.
As for the bent over curls Ive been going to try the ones leaning against a 45 degree incline bench. Same think really.
It's only been 53 hours since the cortisone injection and its already feeling better.

Originally Posted by SurfsideRyan

Swollen bursa sacs take a while to heal, its what causes "tennis elbow/golf elbow"

As im sure you prob already know, its a sac of liquid within the elbow joint that takes the pressure of movement.

With high pressure activities, such as skull crushers, or repetitive movements, it can become swollen and quite painful

There is a pretty painful procedure if it gets bad enough, where a doctor will drain the excess fluid with a needle.. they put it pretty damn far into the back of the elbow.

Besides that, my personal cure for it is rest and anti inflammatory drugs. Such as ibuprofen or cordico-steroids.

The condition of bursa inflammation is bursitis.

Medial epicondylitis (Golfer's elbow) is a little different, although both bursitis and medial epicondylitis can occur from the same kind of activity and can happen at the same time. Swollen bursa sacs don't cause golfer's elbow, however.

Golfer's elbow is more specifically inflammation of the common flexor tendon attachment site on the medial epicondyle of the humerus (upper arm bone).

Golfer's elbow usually develops due to overuse of wrist and finger flexion movements.

I don't suggest "curing" the problem with NSAIDS, you aren't curing anything, just masking the symptoms. As for corticosteroids, these injections can have pretty harsh side effects on soft tissue. Collagen degradation can occur in the soft tissue surrounding the inject site, weakening of tendon and ligament structures will result. I don't suggest corticosteroid injections to anyone unless absolutely necessary. Also, if the repetitive activity still goes on after injections, the inflammation will come right back.

Originally Posted by joboco

As anyone got any ideas how to cure/train with golfers elbow.

To the original poster:

When did you develop this injury?
Are you sure it is golfer's elbow, how did you get your diagnosis?
What kind of exercises/activities aggravate it?

As far as treatment is concerned, a good physical therapist and/or manual therapist will probably be able to help you.

Rest and ice are key to recovery, especially in an inflammation-based soft tissue problem like epicondylitis. Avoiding gripping and wrist bending exercises will also help the tissue recover. I can't stress icing the area enough though, when done consistently it will pay dividends.

Repetitive use injuries heal with rest. You can get a strap that you place just below the elbow to reduce pressure, but the only way to fix it completely is to give it some time off. Can be very troublesome injuries, and it can get worse quickly if you don't give it a break.

A cortisone shot isn't going to fix the problem, it's just going to mask the pain. So if you train your elbows now they will be worse off than before - yay for your physio.

Rest it, then get into some light elbow flexion and extension movements and work on the shoulders as well with little to no abduction so that you get the shoulder/elbow/wrist complex involved. It really depends on how bad your tendons and/or ligaments are fried.