Hernia. How to avoid it ?

Vieope · 02-18-2004, 06:40 PM

Now that I am lifting a lot heavier I wanna know how to avoid this thing called hernia. If you think that there is no reason to worry about it, just go to google and type hernia in the image search.

**P-funk** · 02-18-2004, 07:36 PM

Just because you are lifting heavy does not mean that you are "safe" from getting hernia. You can do it with light weights, I have even seen peeople herinate disks doing something as simple as picking up a towel! I am really scared of it to but I don't think there is anyway to avoid it, it will either happen or it wont.

Vieope · 02-18-2004, 08:05 PM

I heard that something protects your internal organs. Like a capsule and when it breaks, some organ comes out and this is called hernia. I think that it happens when you lift something light, like a towel, it is because you previously lifted something really heavy and it is what started the whole thing.

I am only speculating here.

PreMier · 02-18-2004, 08:18 PM

Do situps. A hernia is a tear in the abdominal lining. The best prevention is situps, and to have a strong mid section. Also if you use a weight belt STOP. Go lighter untill you can support heavier weights on your own. Like P-Funk said though, there really is no telling. Some get them, some dont.

**P-funk** · 02-19-2004, 04:20 AM

There are different kinds of hernia also. You can also herniate a disk in your spine.

Vieope · 02-19-2004, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
There are different kinds of hernia also. You can also herniate a disk in your spine.

You are just bad news, aren´t you ?

bandaidwoman · 02-19-2004, 05:04 AM

There are two types of hernias, congenital and acquired.

Inguinal hernias and femoral hernias are congenital defects (You are born with the defect in the fascia , the lining around your abdominal cavities.) Heavy lifting with increased intrabdominal pressure brings it out. (Ie: you valsalva or strain against high intrabdominal pressure and thus "push' the intestines throught the fascial defect.) If you aren't born with the defect, all the lifting in the world won't give you a inguinal or femoral hernia...a bad back but no hernia.

Acquired hernias or non -congenital hernias are usually due to previous surgeries (incisional hernias) where they have cut throught the fascia and despite stitches, become inherently weak . Pregnancy can thin the fascia to the point where they rip in pregnant women. High doses of cortisone orally also thin the fascia and predispose people to hernias. Most of these types of hernias are direct abdominal hernias or above the inguinal canal, .
Strenghthening the abdominal muscles not only prevent these, but also "cure them" without surgery, so to speak. Ie: the rectus abdominal muscles become the replacement "mesh" over the defected facia. I have one of these and have always had to keep my abdominal muscles tight so that I can forgoe surgery. (I had the inguinal ones when I was young)

Umbilical hernias (around the bellybutton) is usually congenital but sometimes it is acquired. In pregnant women, that's the apex of greatest stretching force on the fascia when carrying a baby and a umbilical hernia can form as the belly gets bigger.

Then, there are all subtypes that surgeons are really into but I will leave that to them here is a link....http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic251.htm

Of course, you don't know if you are congenitally predisposed so avoid any valsalva manuever when lifting (ie: use good breathing technique) and don't throw out your back in the meantime!

DrChiro · 02-19-2004, 05:20 AM

excellent post bandaid!

valsalva means holding your breath while straining.. in case you didnt know... this raises your intra abdominal pressure through the roof and can cause MANY problems (actually it is one of the reasons many people have heart attacks while straining on the toilet)

core strength trainins is excellent prevention as well.

herniated discs in the back are usually caused by bending over and twisting as there is a congenital weakness to the disc on the posterolateral aspect (in everyone), that is why sometimes something as light as a towel can give you a herniation...it isnt the object you are lifting as much as it is the MOTION you used to lift it.

use proper lifting technique and breathing technique and you should be ok.

Rocco32 · 02-19-2004, 06:37 AM

I've had 2 hernia's in the past 10 years! One inguinal and one umbilical. But I was born with them, they just ripped more from lifting until I got surgery.

rte617 · 02-19-2004, 06:45 AM

i am the hernia king. i have had 8 hernias....all by the age of 14. i am 34 now and don't plan on having any, anytime soon. keeping the midsection nice and firm definately helps things out. i don't want to talk about this matter anymore....it's making me queasy.

DrChiro · 02-19-2004, 07:16 AM

oh yeah...well i had 55 hernias!
just kidding of course...just thought it was funny that you guys were like "i had more than you did"...its kinda like when someone shows you a scar and then you show them one of yours and it goes back and forth.

neither one of you get any more hernias!

Vieope · 02-19-2004, 04:35 PM

Really good posts bandaidwoman, DrChiro. So, the competition on hernia is still up ?

02-18-2004, 06:40 PM	#1
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,817 Photos: 10	Hernia. How to avoid it ? Now that I am lifting a lot heavier I wanna know how to avoid this thing called hernia. If you think that there is no reason to worry about it, just go to google and type hernia in the image search.
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02-18-2004, 07:36 PM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,376	Just because you are lifting heavy does not mean that you are "safe" from getting hernia. You can do it with light weights, I have even seen peeople herinate disks doing something as simple as picking up a towel! I am really scared of it to but I don't think there is anyway to avoid it, it will either happen or it wont.
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02-18-2004, 08:05 PM	#3
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,817 Photos: 10	I heard that something protects your internal organs. Like a capsule and when it breaks, some organ comes out and this is called hernia. I think that it happens when you lift something light, like a towel, it is because you previously lifted something really heavy and it is what started the whole thing. I am only speculating here.
	FURtherness

02-18-2004, 08:18 PM	#4
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,055 Photos: 2	Do situps. A hernia is a tear in the abdominal lining. The best prevention is situps, and to have a strong mid section. Also if you use a weight belt STOP. Go lighter untill you can support heavier weights on your own. Like P-Funk said though, there really is no telling. Some get them, some dont.
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02-19-2004, 04:20 AM	#5
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,376	There are different kinds of hernia also. You can also herniate a disk in your spine.
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02-19-2004, 05:04 AM	#7
bandaidwoman inadvertant tree hugger Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 601 Photos: 4	There are two types of hernias, congenital and acquired. Inguinal hernias and femoral hernias are congenital defects (You are born with the defect in the fascia , the lining around your abdominal cavities.) Heavy lifting with increased intrabdominal pressure brings it out. (Ie: you valsalva or strain against high intrabdominal pressure and thus "push' the intestines throught the fascial defect.) If you aren't born with the defect, all the lifting in the world won't give you a inguinal or femoral hernia...a bad back but no hernia. Acquired hernias or non -congenital hernias are usually due to previous surgeries (incisional hernias) where they have cut throught the fascia and despite stitches, become inherently weak . Pregnancy can thin the fascia to the point where they rip in pregnant women. High doses of cortisone orally also thin the fascia and predispose people to hernias. Most of these types of hernias are direct abdominal hernias or above the inguinal canal, . Strenghthening the abdominal muscles not only prevent these, but also "cure them" without surgery, so to speak. Ie: the rectus abdominal muscles become the replacement "mesh" over the defected facia. I have one of these and have always had to keep my abdominal muscles tight so that I can forgoe surgery. (I had the inguinal ones when I was young) Umbilical hernias (around the bellybutton) is usually congenital but sometimes it is acquired. In pregnant women, that's the apex of greatest stretching force on the fascia when carrying a baby and a umbilical hernia can form as the belly gets bigger. Then, there are all subtypes that surgeons are really into but I will leave that to them here is a link....http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic251.htm Of course, you don't know if you are congenitally predisposed so avoid any valsalva manuever when lifting (ie: use good breathing technique) and don't throw out your back in the meantime! Last edited by bandaidwoman : 02-19-2004 at 08:16 AM.
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02-19-2004, 05:20 AM	#8
DrChiro addicted to the crack Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 798	excellent post bandaid! valsalva means holding your breath while straining.. in case you didnt know... this raises your intra abdominal pressure through the roof and can cause MANY problems (actually it is one of the reasons many people have heart attacks while straining on the toilet) core strength trainins is excellent prevention as well. herniated discs in the back are usually caused by bending over and twisting as there is a congenital weakness to the disc on the posterolateral aspect (in everyone), that is why sometimes something as light as a towel can give you a herniation...it isnt the object you are lifting as much as it is the MOTION you used to lift it. use proper lifting technique and breathing technique and you should be ok.
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02-19-2004, 06:37 AM	#9
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	I've had 2 hernia's in the past 10 years! One inguinal and one umbilical. But I was born with them, they just ripped more from lifting until I got surgery.
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02-19-2004, 06:45 AM	#10
rte617 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 22	i am the hernia king. i have had 8 hernias....all by the age of 14. i am 34 now and don't plan on having any, anytime soon. keeping the midsection nice and firm definately helps things out. i don't want to talk about this matter anymore....it's making me queasy.
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02-19-2004, 07:16 AM	#11
DrChiro addicted to the crack Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 798	oh yeah...well i had 55 hernias! just kidding of course...just thought it was funny that you guys were like "i had more than you did"...its kinda like when someone shows you a scar and then you show them one of yours and it goes back and forth. neither one of you get any more hernias!
	My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. When one door closes another door opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the ones which open for us.

02-19-2004, 04:35 PM	#12
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,817 Photos: 10	Really good posts bandaidwoman, DrChiro. So, the competition on hernia is still up ?
	FURtherness

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