Attention All females

Cinnabon · 08-05-2004, 12:06 AM

I have a big question.... Anyone that can offer their advice and help please. I have amenorrhea ... I have visited my doctor and he want to put me on b-control but I really dont want to take this stuff. It makes my body act all waked out..... I think its due to my diet and wk out regimen, might be a bit stressing to my body. What do you guys think???

Please help..

Mars

aggies1ut · 08-05-2004, 12:12 AM

So you've been on bc before? There are many different kinds nowadays with limited side effects.

And correct me if I am wrong, but do you mean that you believe your amenorrhea is being caused by stress or because of exercising too much and not eating enough?

Your post is sort of confusing.

aggies1ut · 08-05-2004, 12:21 AM

Oh and this topic should be in general health and awareness.

sara · 08-05-2004, 12:24 AM

What's you'r Stat? height, weight
workout and diet?

sara · 08-05-2004, 12:26 AM

Did you always have this problem? or just when you started dieting and working out?

**Jodi** · 08-05-2004, 01:06 AM

1. Have you had a TSH and prolactin level test yet?
2. Have you lost or gained a significant amount of weight recently?
3. Are your eating habits consistant and at least 10 cals per pound of body weight?
4. What is your body fat level?
5. What is your activity level as far as all exercise?
6. Do you have children or have you been pregnant recently?

atherjen · 08-05-2004, 05:22 AM

how long has this been going on? I had a similar problem at a very young age, 13, and was put on birth control to try to regulate of encourage menstruation with no such luck..
Sometimes a second opinon from another doctor is worthwhile.

Cinnabon · 08-05-2004, 11:15 AM

Yes,
I believe Im eating too little for the amount of exercise Im doing. Im just afraid now that my morkouts are causing this. Should I cut my wkouts short?

**Jodi** · 08-05-2004, 11:19 AM

I think you should reconsider your diet and start eating more.

Sapphire · 08-05-2004, 12:23 PM

EAT EAT EAT!! You are body builder NOT a dieter!!!!!

**dg806** · 08-05-2004, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sara

What's you'r Stat? height, weight
workout and diet?

I think the answer lies here............

Cinnabon · 08-05-2004, 03:27 PM

Im 5'3, 135. Roughly, my macros are:
Protein- 51%, Carbs (complex): 31%, and fats at 18%.

Breakfast
1/2 cup Plain Oatmeal or 1 slice of 9 grain bread
3 oz 1% milk
6 oz coffee

Snack: 16 almonds

Lunch:
3 oz of chicken breast/ turkey breast/ or tuna
1 cup LF cottage cheese or granola bar

snack
protein shake

WK out

Dinner:
6 oz lean protein ( grilled chicken, pork, turkey gb)
1.5- 2 cups of spinach
3 egg whites / 1 cup of cottage cheese

snack: 1 cup Sfree Jello

Protein shake w/ 4 Strawberries

WKout schedule

Mondays -bi's & tri's 40-45 cardio ( step)
Tues-Legs (squats, leg press, inner thigh, dead lifts, glutes, lunges 3 sets of 20) & cardio 20 min.
Wed- Cardio35 min, Outter thigh & Calves
Thurs.- Shoulders & Back- Cardio 25-30 min.
Fri.-Cardio 35-40 min., calves

Thanks...,

**Jodi** · 08-05-2004, 03:38 PM

Did you have any blood work done?

What are your total calories for the day?

Cinnabon · 08-05-2004, 03:41 PM

yes Jodi,

no pregnancy, no Thyroid problem and the hormone test was normal.

**Jodi** · 08-05-2004, 03:54 PM

What are your total calories for the day?

Cinnabon · 08-05-2004, 04:03 PM

About 1100-1200

**Jodi** · 08-05-2004, 04:08 PM

I think you found your own answer as to why you are having this issue. Your calories are way too low and your body is in starvation mode. Number one reason that women develop amenorrhea is because of their diet. You should really increase your calories.

Cinnabon · 08-05-2004, 04:19 PM

Thanks Jodi,

like a lot of women, we tend to overlook this fact in our busy, everyday life.. I appreciate this.

**Jodi** · 08-05-2004, 04:33 PM

I went throught the worrying before and but didn't think much of it. Then I really worried after 6 months, then 9 months and finally I had to go to the doctor. She tested everything down to estrogen panel, prolactin etc........ She looked over my diet and finally she just told me that I'm athletic and because I try to stay relatively lean all year round and I'm constantly exercising there is not much I can do other than birth control. Well, other than depo (which stops periods) I can't use birth control so I just deal with it now. I know my diet is good and sometimes (like twice a year) I'll get my period but most of the time I do not. Not all women though that are low bodyfat and exercise alot have this issue either. We are all different and our bodies react differently.

Please do increase your food intake by at least 200-300 calories. Give it a few months and see if that helps. Worst case is that you have to either deal with it or do the birth control.

atherjen · 08-05-2004, 06:53 PM

Great advice Jodi

Cinnabon · 08-05-2004, 08:01 PM

jODI,

That is good advice, thanks again. One question.. How do you deal with the water retention? Did you ever experience weight gain, bloating, or anything that your period would give you normally?

**Jodi** · 08-05-2004, 08:48 PM

Yeah I do get the bloat and water gain and stuff. I just drink extra water that week, like 8L instead of 6. It helps with the water gain.

sara · 08-05-2004, 09:57 PM

Did you'r doctor suggested bone density test?
Was you'r estrogen level normal through blood work?

Cinnabon · 08-06-2004, 07:01 AM

Sara,

no bone density test, but yes the hormone test was normal. I was suggested by a friend to take DOn Quai ( natural hinese herb) .

sara · 08-06-2004, 01:36 PM

If you can, have you'r bone density checked

bandaidwoman · 08-07-2004, 09:02 AM

came upon thread late. your doc is worried about female atheltic triad

http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1997/03mar/joy.htm

as sara mentioned, a bone density might not be bad, if you already have developed osteopenia or even frank osteoperosis ( i've seen some 28 year olds with bone densities of 70 yr olds) then getting on the birth control pilll if your periods have not returned after 6 months is imperative. (I suspect this is what your doc is worried about when he/she encouraged the pill,.... alas not all insurance plans will pay for bone densities unless the woman is menapausal and after age 50) . I definately recommend what Jodi and everyone has been encouraging.....eat eat eat!

sara · 08-07-2004, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

came upon thread late. your doc is worried about female atheltic triad

http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1997/03mar/joy.htm

( i've seen some 28 year olds with bone densities of 70 yr olds)

Jenny · 08-08-2004, 12:55 PM

I've had problems with missing periods too. I stopped BC, tightened up my diet and workouts and lost about 20lbs. Got the blood work done and it all seemed normal. Were spotting some.. Had a big cheat day and it actually got my period started. TERRIBLE cramps and lots of bleeding.. I think you know what to do, you need to raise cals if you want the periods to come back. The body needs some time to adapt after weight fluctuations and BC, so raise cals and give it time

dalila · 08-09-2004, 02:49 AM

I agree with everyone who said eat more - I was there 10 years ago myself. Also it only took taking bc pills twice for a couple of days to get my periods regulated ( and eating more at the same time of course)...

Also don't worry, even if you were to take BC for long time, the new gen pills are quite good, and ever since I switched to the 4th gen pill I've had no side effects whatsoever... it also helps to do a proper hormonal-levels blood test before going on a pill, since that helps your doctor decide if you need a pill with high/low progestin and e

08-05-2004, 12:06 AM	#1
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	Attention All females I have a big question.... Anyone that can offer their advice and help please. I have amenorrhea ... I have visited my doctor and he want to put me on b-control but I really dont want to take this stuff. It makes my body act all waked out..... I think its due to my diet and wk out regimen, might be a bit stressing to my body. What do you guys think??? Please help.. Mars

08-05-2004, 12:24 AM	#4
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08-05-2004, 12:26 AM	#5
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	Did you always have this problem? or just when you started dieting and working out?
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08-05-2004, 01:06 AM	#6
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,260 Photos: 1	1. Have you had a TSH and prolactin level test yet? 2. Have you lost or gained a significant amount of weight recently? 3. Are your eating habits consistant and at least 10 cals per pound of body weight? 4. What is your body fat level? 5. What is your activity level as far as all exercise? 6. Do you have children or have you been pregnant recently?
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08-05-2004, 05:22 AM	#7
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	how long has this been going on? I had a similar problem at a very young age, 13, and was put on birth control to try to regulate of encourage menstruation with no such luck.. Sometimes a second opinon from another doctor is worthwhile.
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08-05-2004, 12:12 AM	#2
aggies1ut NorCal Elite Member* Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 3,580 Photos: 19	So you've been on bc before? There are many different kinds nowadays with limited side effects. And correct me if I am wrong, but do you mean that you believe your amenorrhea is being caused by stress or because of exercising too much and not eating enough? Your post is sort of confusing.

08-05-2004, 12:21 AM	#3
aggies1ut NorCal Elite Member* Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 3,580 Photos: 19	Oh and this topic should be in general health and awareness.

08-05-2004, 11:15 AM	#8
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	Yes, I believe Im eating too little for the amount of exercise Im doing. Im just afraid now that my morkouts are causing this. Should I cut my wkouts short?

08-05-2004, 11:19 AM	#9
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,260 Photos: 1	I think you should reconsider your diet and start eating more.
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08-05-2004, 12:23 PM	#10
Sapphire P/RR/S groupie Join Date: May 2003 Location: anywhere my love Chris is... Posts: 4,449 Photos: 4	EAT EAT EAT!! You are body builder NOT a dieter!!!!!
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08-05-2004, 03:27 PM	#12
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	Im 5'3, 135. Roughly, my macros are: Protein- 51%, Carbs (complex): 31%, and fats at 18%. Breakfast 1/2 cup Plain Oatmeal or 1 slice of 9 grain bread 3 oz 1% milk 6 oz coffee Snack: 16 almonds Lunch: 3 oz of chicken breast/ turkey breast/ or tuna 1 cup LF cottage cheese or granola bar snack protein shake WK out Dinner: 6 oz lean protein ( grilled chicken, pork, turkey gb) 1.5- 2 cups of spinach 3 egg whites / 1 cup of cottage cheese snack: 1 cup Sfree Jello Protein shake w/ 4 Strawberries WKout schedule Mondays -bi's & tri's 40-45 cardio ( step) Tues-Legs (squats, leg press, inner thigh, dead lifts, glutes, lunges 3 sets of 20) & cardio 20 min. Wed- Cardio35 min, Outter thigh & Calves Thurs.- Shoulders & Back- Cardio 25-30 min. Fri.-Cardio 35-40 min., calves Thanks...,

08-05-2004, 03:38 PM	#13
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,260 Photos: 1	Did you have any blood work done? What are your total calories for the day?
	Essence EFA

08-05-2004, 03:41 PM	#14
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	yes Jodi, no pregnancy, no Thyroid problem and the hormone test was normal.

08-05-2004, 03:54 PM	#15
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,260 Photos: 1	What are your total calories for the day?
	Essence EFA

08-05-2004, 04:03 PM	#16
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	About 1100-1200

08-05-2004, 04:08 PM	#17
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,260 Photos: 1	I think you found your own answer as to why you are having this issue. Your calories are way too low and your body is in starvation mode. Number one reason that women develop amenorrhea is because of their diet. You should really increase your calories.
	Essence EFA

08-05-2004, 04:19 PM	#18
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	Thanks Jodi, like a lot of women, we tend to overlook this fact in our busy, everyday life.. I appreciate this.

08-05-2004, 04:33 PM	#19
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,260 Photos: 1	I went throught the worrying before and but didn't think much of it. Then I really worried after 6 months, then 9 months and finally I had to go to the doctor. She tested everything down to estrogen panel, prolactin etc........ She looked over my diet and finally she just told me that I'm athletic and because I try to stay relatively lean all year round and I'm constantly exercising there is not much I can do other than birth control. Well, other than depo (which stops periods) I can't use birth control so I just deal with it now. I know my diet is good and sometimes (like twice a year) I'll get my period but most of the time I do not. Not all women though that are low bodyfat and exercise alot have this issue either. We are all different and our bodies react differently. Please do increase your food intake by at least 200-300 calories. Give it a few months and see if that helps. Worst case is that you have to either deal with it or do the birth control.
	Essence EFA

08-05-2004, 06:53 PM	#20
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Great advice Jodi
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08-05-2004, 08:01 PM	#21
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	jODI, That is good advice, thanks again. One question.. How do you deal with the water retention? Did you ever experience weight gain, bloating, or anything that your period would give you normally?

08-05-2004, 08:48 PM	#22
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,260 Photos: 1	Yeah I do get the bloat and water gain and stuff. I just drink extra water that week, like 8L instead of 6. It helps with the water gain.
	Essence EFA

08-05-2004, 09:57 PM	#23
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	Did you'r doctor suggested bone density test? Was you'r estrogen level normal through blood work?
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08-06-2004, 07:01 AM	#24
Cinnabon Cinnabon Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 77	Sara, no bone density test, but yes the hormone test was normal. I was suggested by a friend to take DOn Quai ( natural hinese herb) .

08-06-2004, 01:36 PM	#25
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	If you can, have you'r bone density checked
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08-07-2004, 09:02 AM	#26
bandaidwoman inadvertant tree hugger Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 601 Photos: 4	came upon thread late. your doc is worried about female atheltic triad http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1997/03mar/joy.htm as sara mentioned, a bone density might not be bad, if you already have developed osteopenia or even frank osteoperosis ( i've seen some 28 year olds with bone densities of 70 yr olds) then getting on the birth control pilll if your periods have not returned after 6 months is imperative. (I suspect this is what your doc is worried about when he/she encouraged the pill,.... alas not all insurance plans will pay for bone densities unless the woman is menapausal and after age 50) . I definately recommend what Jodi and everyone has been encouraging.....eat eat eat!
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08-08-2004, 12:55 PM	#28
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	I've had problems with missing periods too. I stopped BC, tightened up my diet and workouts and lost about 20lbs. Got the blood work done and it all seemed normal. Were spotting some.. Had a big cheat day and it actually got my period started. TERRIBLE cramps and lots of bleeding.. I think you know what to do, you need to raise cals if you want the periods to come back. The body needs some time to adapt after weight fluctuations and BC, so raise cals and give it time